Emirates vs. Air Canada
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Oh Desert, you are getting awfully confused aren't you my little moron?
Me thinks you are getting a tad confused between Free Trade and a Free Market Economy, they are two VERY different things (I too studied Economics, but unlike you, it was in London not the University of Calcutta).
If you can point out 1 post (just 1) where I mention (or anyone else for that matter) Free 'Trade' then I will bow out gracefully.. Until such a point, may I ask that you just give up and quit while you are behind, because you really are making yourself look stupid.
I would ask that you kindly re-read my posts and then apologise for not being able to spot the logical arguments I have posted and the fact that I at least can acknowledge that there is an argument for Canada to do what it's doing.
All I would also ask that you stop embarrassing yourself, because instead of getting angry with you, I am actually starting to feel sorry for you (like I'd feel sorry for a Grandparent with a mental disability!)
Me thinks you are getting a tad confused between Free Trade and a Free Market Economy, they are two VERY different things (I too studied Economics, but unlike you, it was in London not the University of Calcutta
).If you can point out 1 post (just 1) where I mention (or anyone else for that matter) Free 'Trade' then I will bow out gracefully.. Until such a point, may I ask that you just give up and quit while you are behind, because you really are making yourself look stupid.
I would ask that you kindly re-read my posts and then apologise for not being able to spot the logical arguments I have posted and the fact that I at least can acknowledge that there is an argument for Canada to do what it's doing.
All I would also ask that you stop embarrassing yourself, because instead of getting angry with you, I am actually starting to feel sorry for you (like I'd feel sorry for a Grandparent with a mental disability!)
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I too studied Economics, but unlike you, it was in London not the University of Calcutta
A former founder/head of the Department Of Economics at The University Of Calcutta was the first Indian to head an Oxbridge college. Before you open your clearly uneducated gab (economics - really? Porky pies, I think) Amartya Sen is also a Nobel Laureate.
Take a look at this Amartya Sen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia before slagging off other cultures.
You're bigoted, arrogant, argumentative, authoritarian and (I think) quite thick. You must be delightful to fly with.
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Yet another unintelligent post by this weirdo... Oblasspop.
I think your best skill oblasspop is slewing warped nonsense and insult. Quite entertaining! Educated?? LOL. Clearly your full of it.
Free trade and free Market Economy are almost the same you moron.. "Free Trade" is the catch phrase to identify the concept of THE Free Market. Or Free-er market. Depending from where your standing. Omg... its like arguing with a 4 year old. Its almost not worth it...
The good news is...you've been stuffed anyway.
Good work Harper.
I think your best skill oblasspop is slewing warped nonsense and insult. Quite entertaining! Educated?? LOL. Clearly your full of it.
Free trade and free Market Economy are almost the same you moron.. "Free Trade" is the catch phrase to identify the concept of THE Free Market. Or Free-er market. Depending from where your standing. Omg... its like arguing with a 4 year old. Its almost not worth it...
The good news is...you've been stuffed anyway.
Good work Harper.
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Ooooh, touched a nerve did I Capt? I was trying to make a point, get over it! I'm incredibly pleased you managed to prove my entire position by ONLY being able to pick up on a minor little point (which was joke btw) which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the debate! Thanks, that just goes to prove that NEITHER of you are able to refute anything other than things that aren't the 'point'!
Frankly I couldn't give a flying FCUK about your boring references. All I know is that unlike you, I work with and live along side over 100 different nationalities and don't need a lesson on international relations from an insular numpty like you!
The other day I questioned whether you were either a C*ck OR a Tw@t. I now realise that you are both!
Handbags at dawn both of you!
I'm soooooooo pleased I manage to wind you guys up so easily. Why don't you cheer up you bunch of miserable bores?
Bannnnnnnnnnnannnnnnners (how are your spelling lessons going by the way)..... Free trade and Free Market are NOT the same thing, get yourself educated! Check the second line of this link, then apologise you un-educated thicko Free trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Frankly I couldn't give a flying FCUK about your boring references. All I know is that unlike you, I work with and live along side over 100 different nationalities and don't need a lesson on international relations from an insular numpty like you!
The other day I questioned whether you were either a C*ck OR a Tw@t. I now realise that you are both!
Handbags at dawn both of you!
I'm soooooooo pleased I manage to wind you guys up so easily. Why don't you cheer up you bunch of miserable bores?
Bannnnnnnnnnnannnnnnners (how are your spelling lessons going by the way)..... Free trade and Free Market are NOT the same thing, get yourself educated! Check the second line of this link, then apologise you un-educated thicko Free trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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LOL... Oblasspop.. you beat me on immaturity thats for sure. Come on... you dont fly airplanes do you?
But hey let me EXPAND that one reference you were so bold to present to us:
"Free trade is a system of trade policy that allows traders to act and or transact without interference from government."
(Yes you numbnuts..that because they establish the rules beforehand)
"According to the law of comparative advantage the policy permits trading partners mutual gains from trade of goods and services."
(MUTUAL...numbnuts)
"These artificial prices are the result of protectionist trade policies, whereby governments intervene in the market through price adjustments and supply restrictions. Such government interventions can increase as well as decrease the cost of goods and services to both consumers and producers."
(if you actually took the classes you say you did..you would remember the prof asking you why countries have some protectionist trade policies. Thats right! Back to economies of scale!)
Most states conduct trade policies that are to a lesser or greater degree protectionist.[1]
(You read that again!)
But hey let me EXPAND that one reference you were so bold to present to us:
"Free trade is a system of trade policy that allows traders to act and or transact without interference from government."
(Yes you numbnuts..that because they establish the rules beforehand)
"According to the law of comparative advantage the policy permits trading partners mutual gains from trade of goods and services."
(MUTUAL...numbnuts)
"These artificial prices are the result of protectionist trade policies, whereby governments intervene in the market through price adjustments and supply restrictions. Such government interventions can increase as well as decrease the cost of goods and services to both consumers and producers."
(if you actually took the classes you say you did..you would remember the prof asking you why countries have some protectionist trade policies. Thats right! Back to economies of scale!)
Most states conduct trade policies that are to a lesser or greater degree protectionist.[1]
(You read that again!)
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Reasoned posts as always. However another stick to beat the western carriers up that I found today on the BBC
BBC News - Airlines fined over cargo cartel
How do you explain this to middle east carriers? Cargo or not.
Reasoned posts as always. However another stick to beat the western carriers up that I found today on the BBC
BBC News - Airlines fined over cargo cartel
How do you explain this to middle east carriers? Cargo or not.
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I think the "cargo" police have been onto this for some time now. Flight is also reporting it, AND BA caught yet again??? Blimey!!
It may be that the fines are worth the profits earned over the period in between being fined and being fined again for the same offence. Good game.
I'm not an economics major so I must defer to our other, more knowledgeable collegues who profess to know the workings of the Department Of Economics at The University Of Calcutta and Oxbridge college. (they're so luck) Maybe they know someone who might have an answer for us?
I'm a pilot. I learned long ago, not to get into any dispute over numbers. That's why I use a financial advisor.
As for markets, free trade and emerging markets, bah, humbug! I'd like to show you the money those a**holes have lost for me over the last 5 years. But I don't have it to show you, I digress...
Somehow, this doesn't surprise me (as I'm sure it didn't, you). Especially the players. What fate awaits these alliances when individual governments see it as a national embarassment and finally put a foot down?
(Italy excluded, of course)
I think it only proves once again that you can't play by the rules and survive. (A few Canadians are going to be upset if that's true, eh?) We can go back to your earlier remarks about that notorius playing field. It has never been level and it never will be. This is yet another example. Those who've survived the airline business since fuel prices first shot up in the early 70s have done so through creative management and I see EKs taking a similar approach to world dominance. I read about them almost daily. Enviable ambitions and good luck to them. But I'm also clever enough to understand some countries out there have governments taking a proactive approach, on that 'uneven' playing field, to what's afoot. Canada may be no genius when it comes to getting screwed, I agree. But I sure think it's starting to understand why their rectum hurts and they're finally starting to look for answers in a totally new direction.
To the point, if I may? Recent deviations in this thread have nothing to do with refusing EK new services to Canada and allowing them increased frequencies out of YYZ, IMHO.
Neither do I think the Canadian government is likely to respond to the childish behavior of the UAE.
How do I explain this to middle east carriers?
Inshallah.
Willie
I think the "cargo" police have been onto this for some time now. Flight is also reporting it, AND BA caught yet again??? Blimey!!
It may be that the fines are worth the profits earned over the period in between being fined and being fined again for the same offence. Good game.
I'm not an economics major so I must defer to our other, more knowledgeable collegues who profess to know the workings of the Department Of Economics at The University Of Calcutta and Oxbridge college. (they're so luck) Maybe they know someone who might have an answer for us?
I'm a pilot. I learned long ago, not to get into any dispute over numbers. That's why I use a financial advisor.
As for markets, free trade and emerging markets, bah, humbug! I'd like to show you the money those a**holes have lost for me over the last 5 years. But I don't have it to show you, I digress...
Somehow, this doesn't surprise me (as I'm sure it didn't, you). Especially the players. What fate awaits these alliances when individual governments see it as a national embarassment and finally put a foot down?
(Italy excluded, of course)
I think it only proves once again that you can't play by the rules and survive. (A few Canadians are going to be upset if that's true, eh?) We can go back to your earlier remarks about that notorius playing field. It has never been level and it never will be. This is yet another example. Those who've survived the airline business since fuel prices first shot up in the early 70s have done so through creative management and I see EKs taking a similar approach to world dominance. I read about them almost daily. Enviable ambitions and good luck to them. But I'm also clever enough to understand some countries out there have governments taking a proactive approach, on that 'uneven' playing field, to what's afoot. Canada may be no genius when it comes to getting screwed, I agree. But I sure think it's starting to understand why their rectum hurts and they're finally starting to look for answers in a totally new direction.
To the point, if I may? Recent deviations in this thread have nothing to do with refusing EK new services to Canada and allowing them increased frequencies out of YYZ, IMHO.
Neither do I think the Canadian government is likely to respond to the childish behavior of the UAE.
How do I explain this to middle east carriers?
Inshallah.
Willie
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Let me state my position first..so as not be confused, or played as another straw man.
I am an EK pilot, I have every desire for EK to operate to Canada, but in saying that, I hope its done on the basis of a fair and reasonable position
Now with that out of the way, lets call a spade a spade, both Air Canada, and now the Canadian government are doing their populace an immense disservice by "unreasonably" restricting competition in the air transport market place.
Its as obvious to anyone other than a one eyed fool that immense pressure has been put on policy and decision makers such that Air Canada can continue in its gouging of the Canadian market.
Lets be frank about this, from Air Canada's perspective, its the smart play, its EXACTLY what every other pseudo legacy/national carrier in the western world has done for the last 40 years for goodness sake.
The trouble with this approach is that all it really does is merely postpone the inevitable, that being a correction based around having to restructure a business so that it can become competitive again e.g. Alitalia, Air NZ, Varig (oops) United-Connie etc etc.
All the patriotic jingoistic claptrap that exists on this thread matters not, the essential arithmetic is there for ALL to see.
From the UAE's perspective...they have certainly behaved like a petulant child..but again where is the surprise in that? You should see some of the dumb-ass things the local emerati do on the roads over here..again its horses for courses.
The endgame to all this will be an eventual compromise, Air Canada will eventually either go pop, get another chunk of government capital, or become a market leader once more.
Emirates will eventually find a way to have greater access..by either swallowing Etihad..or using commercial common sense and maybe a more constructive approach.
In any case, a change of government in Canada, along with more revelations regarding price fixing could well be the nail in Air Canada's creaking coffin, I'm not convinced however that the Harper govt has actually thought a lot of this through to its conclusion..and could have by its own bloodymindedness shot itself in the foot....do they speak French in Ottawa as well?
I am an EK pilot, I have every desire for EK to operate to Canada, but in saying that, I hope its done on the basis of a fair and reasonable position
Now with that out of the way, lets call a spade a spade, both Air Canada, and now the Canadian government are doing their populace an immense disservice by "unreasonably" restricting competition in the air transport market place.
Its as obvious to anyone other than a one eyed fool that immense pressure has been put on policy and decision makers such that Air Canada can continue in its gouging of the Canadian market.
Lets be frank about this, from Air Canada's perspective, its the smart play, its EXACTLY what every other pseudo legacy/national carrier in the western world has done for the last 40 years for goodness sake.
The trouble with this approach is that all it really does is merely postpone the inevitable, that being a correction based around having to restructure a business so that it can become competitive again e.g. Alitalia, Air NZ, Varig (oops) United-Connie etc etc.
All the patriotic jingoistic claptrap that exists on this thread matters not, the essential arithmetic is there for ALL to see.
From the UAE's perspective...they have certainly behaved like a petulant child..but again where is the surprise in that? You should see some of the dumb-ass things the local emerati do on the roads over here..again its horses for courses.
The endgame to all this will be an eventual compromise, Air Canada will eventually either go pop, get another chunk of government capital, or become a market leader once more.
Emirates will eventually find a way to have greater access..by either swallowing Etihad..or using commercial common sense and maybe a more constructive approach.
In any case, a change of government in Canada, along with more revelations regarding price fixing could well be the nail in Air Canada's creaking coffin, I'm not convinced however that the Harper govt has actually thought a lot of this through to its conclusion..and could have by its own bloodymindedness shot itself in the foot....do they speak French in Ottawa as well?
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Loved your post Falcon. In my opinion very balanced and rings true to my ears. I would just like to add one thing .. that the status quo limits to EK at this time are not just for Air Canada, but just also for the Star Alliance I believe, mostly Lufthansa most likely?
Your handle should be EK's callsign... that would be cool. A bit long tho... maybe "Falcon".
Your handle should be EK's callsign... that would be cool. A bit long tho... maybe "Falcon".
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You know what Desert, I'm done arguing with you! You are fighting a losing battle and refuse to admit you are wrong when clearly you are. You stated that a Free Market is the same as Free Trade whereas the Wiki link I thoughtfully posted for you couldn't be any clearer in contradicting you. It states in plain English (which may be a problem for you perhaps?) with reference to Free Trade: "Not to be confused with Free market." Now you can post all the extra links and diatribe you wish, however I cannot see (nor can anyone else I believe) how you can possibly deny the un-denyable?
Perhaps the very best trait of a professional Airline Pilot is the ability to admit when one is wrong. If you can point out ANY part of my position that is FACTUALLY wrong, then I will openly admit it. You it appears are incapable of doing such a thing which leads me to believe that you are not a pilot and certainly NOT professional....... Please prove me wrong by admitting you were wrong, go on, it wont hurt..... It may even save your life one day!
Indeed Falcon's was a good, balanced post and he must be patted on the back. The thing I really don't get though is that his post is no different to the position I have been posting for many weeks. In fact, its almost identical in content. So why I must ask do you accept his view and not mine? Simple question....
Willie got my point as did others, because they are able to accept the balanced argument concept but for some reason, the likes of Cpt Underknickers and Deserticantevenspellmyhandlecorrectly don't. Why is that?
Perhaps the very best trait of a professional Airline Pilot is the ability to admit when one is wrong. If you can point out ANY part of my position that is FACTUALLY wrong, then I will openly admit it. You it appears are incapable of doing such a thing which leads me to believe that you are not a pilot and certainly NOT professional....... Please prove me wrong by admitting you were wrong, go on, it wont hurt..... It may even save your life one day!
Indeed Falcon's was a good, balanced post and he must be patted on the back. The thing I really don't get though is that his post is no different to the position I have been posting for many weeks. In fact, its almost identical in content. So why I must ask do you accept his view and not mine? Simple question....
Willie got my point as did others, because they are able to accept the balanced argument concept but for some reason, the likes of Cpt Underknickers and Deserticantevenspellmyhandlecorrectly don't. Why is that?
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Poppy...
Ive been on this forum for a few years, but noticed a recent change in the disclaimer on the bottom of the page...
Unfamiliar with the word sciolist, I looked it up. (yes, I saw the definition on the page too)
Sciolist - definition of Sciolist by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
If the shoe fits, Poppy. Golly*, it`s you (and my other favourite misanthrope 411A), to a T.
By the way, here`s some information on your other `condition`:
penile hypoplasia - Google Search
2 Jive Guys from Airplane Video by Packrat? - Myspace Video
Just kidding!
Ive been on this forum for a few years, but noticed a recent change in the disclaimer on the bottom of the page...
As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions
Sciolist - definition of Sciolist by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Noun 1. sciolist - an amateur who engages in an activity without serious intentions and who pretends to have knowledge
By the way, here`s some information on your other `condition`:
penile hypoplasia - Google Search
2 Jive Guys from Airplane Video by Packrat? - Myspace Video
Just kidding!
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Yep, you got me Cpt... I must confess. I am a very small man with the worlds smallest willy, to compensate for this, I drive a very big car with a massive engine and fly a 370t Aircraft from the left hand seat, which when you consider just how thick I am, its amazing that EK are foolish enough pay me a $15k+ per month package to fly their shiny jets...... Shhhhhhh, don't tell them or I may end up having to push meal carts in the cabin like you!
Finished being a child, or do you wish to carry on a conversation about c*ck size? Give it up you weirdo or people may start to think you are male cabin crew of the limp hand variety as opposed to a professional Airline Pilot!
Just kidding
Finished being a child, or do you wish to carry on a conversation about c*ck size? Give it up you weirdo or people may start to think you are male cabin crew of the limp hand variety as opposed to a professional Airline Pilot!
Just kidding
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Pop, I liked Falcons mature post. I think alot of it rings true, and after listening to you, I applaud his maturity. However I still stand that I believe whats best for Air Canada and Canada is to allow competition into the market, from several sources... but to be managed. IE: in your eyes: Protected. The reasons of which I have already stated and will not do for you again.
I am Left in my view, and I have a sense of social responsibility to my country. I believe Canada needs to intelligently look at how much access Emirates and any airline has to Canada and "manage" it if necessary. This again in your view is protectionist. However I continually point out, if we really were protectionist and not fair to the market, then we would not have allowed much of the access all of the other airlines share already. There is already lots of choice for the consumer and competition for Air Canada. So, to me that protectionist argument does not fly.
You, on the other hand are very "Right" in your views, but also extrememly immature. You do not approach the topic in a logical or balanced way.
Indeed EngineFireLeft, I have worked in the ME and working there does come at a price. And in my opinion, the few extra dollars at the end of the day is not worth it. Besides, if your at AC, and you count the pension, its worth alot more anyway. It just has been a shorter course to the LHS in a widebody at EK, and for those who put that above all else, its usefull. But for me, Its a balance of Work/Lifestyle/Social.. and nothing is better than working in ones own Country if you have something decent.
I am Left in my view, and I have a sense of social responsibility to my country. I believe Canada needs to intelligently look at how much access Emirates and any airline has to Canada and "manage" it if necessary. This again in your view is protectionist. However I continually point out, if we really were protectionist and not fair to the market, then we would not have allowed much of the access all of the other airlines share already. There is already lots of choice for the consumer and competition for Air Canada. So, to me that protectionist argument does not fly.
You, on the other hand are very "Right" in your views, but also extrememly immature. You do not approach the topic in a logical or balanced way.
Indeed EngineFireLeft, I have worked in the ME and working there does come at a price. And in my opinion, the few extra dollars at the end of the day is not worth it. Besides, if your at AC, and you count the pension, its worth alot more anyway. It just has been a shorter course to the LHS in a widebody at EK, and for those who put that above all else, its usefull. But for me, Its a balance of Work/Lifestyle/Social.. and nothing is better than working in ones own Country if you have something decent.
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I can't believe this debate is still going on?
F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave.
F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave.
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I will, but only if you stop slagging off people, cultures, nations and other airlines in your posts. It's immature and counterproductive. Please give it a rest and behave like the professional you claim to be.
Do we have a deal?
Give it up
Do we have a deal?
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I can't believe this debate is still going on?
F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave.
F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave.
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Emirates and Etihad outmaneuvered again
Does the UAE negotiator work for Qatar Airways? At what point will emirates figure out they are negotiating from a position of weakness not strength?
My favorite paragraph:
Does the UAE negotiator work for Qatar Airways? At what point will emirates figure out they are negotiating from a position of weakness not strength?
My favorite paragraph:
Canada could retaliate against the UAE by cancelling the six flights a week that Emirates Airlines and Etihad Airways currently fly to Toronto or by banning UAE aircraft from Canadian airspace as the UAE did when they refused access last month to a flight carrying Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Canada's top soldier, Gen. Walt Natynczyk. Such a move could cost the UAE's two national carriers hundreds of millions of dollars a year in additional fuel costs because it would add several hours' flying time and an additional stop to about a dozen passenger flights every day to the western United States and an hour per day of additional flying time to about half a dozen flights to the U.S. East Coast.
And then this:
U.A.E. Minister Says Canada Bans Officials From Flights on U.A.E. Carriers
United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al-Nahyan said Canada has banned its government officials from flying on U.A.E. air carriers, calling the action an “escalation” of a dispute between the countries over landing rights for commercial flights. “I don’t think it’s a smart decision,” Sheikh Abdullah said at a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council foreign ministers in Abu Dhabi. “This is an escalation.”
[hahahahahahahaha, actually it's a response to an UAE escalation...]
U.A.E. carriers including Emirates have been seeking dozens of new landing slots in Canada, contending that the six weekly flights currently allowed aren’t enough to meet demand. Transport Canada, the government agency that oversees the airline industry, and Air Canada opposed granting more slots on concerns that U.A.E. carriers may eat into Air Canada’s traffic to cities such as Frankfurt.
On Nov. 9, the U.A.E. embassy in Ottawa said the nation will begin requiring Canadian visitors to apply for visas, starting Jan. 2.
And then this:
U.A.E. Minister Says Canada Bans Officials From Flights on U.A.E. Carriers
United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al-Nahyan said Canada has banned its government officials from flying on U.A.E. air carriers, calling the action an “escalation” of a dispute between the countries over landing rights for commercial flights. “I don’t think it’s a smart decision,” Sheikh Abdullah said at a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council foreign ministers in Abu Dhabi. “This is an escalation.”
[hahahahahahahaha, actually it's a response to an UAE escalation...]
U.A.E. carriers including Emirates have been seeking dozens of new landing slots in Canada, contending that the six weekly flights currently allowed aren’t enough to meet demand. Transport Canada, the government agency that oversees the airline industry, and Air Canada opposed granting more slots on concerns that U.A.E. carriers may eat into Air Canada’s traffic to cities such as Frankfurt.
On Nov. 9, the U.A.E. embassy in Ottawa said the nation will begin requiring Canadian visitors to apply for visas, starting Jan. 2.
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GMC says it all in his post:
"F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave."
Just like most of the other petulant immature posters here like Oblasspop, its all about personal selfish reasons, not about your true opinion, or whats best for Canada, or the people.
Well I say...
Fxxx you GMC.
But hey, you will have lots of choice from this "protectionist" gov't:
Canada and Qatar airline deal set to take off
And we will see more flight choice for the Indian community in Canada as well.
The real issue here is INDIA. Not the UAE. The TIGER of Asia is up and coming, and being that it has a democratic process as opposed to others, we should have unilateral trade patnerships with it rather than the others. Politically-like minded countries should support each other.The UAE as a destination is secondary, as its relatively small (comparatively speaking), and daily to YYZ is enough right now. Get on a JFK/YYZ from DXB/AUH and you will see it. That market at this time has to connect through somehwere... FRA/LHR/DXB/AUH/DOH etc..or even HKG/TPE the other direction. The Canadian traveller from the UAE is not complaining here. Because 99.9% of them buy full fare tix. What we have here are the Airline workers who are whining because they cant get their ID90 biz class seat every month or cant fly directly to their home city.
"F#$K air canada.
F&#K transport.
F*#K the Harper gov't and all the opposition, cuz they'd all agree anyways if they were in power.
I'll just fly home via Houston, or maybe Chicago one day.
What a bunch of Fu(#!n losers!! Need the nanny state to protect them. Cradle to grave my babies, cradle to grave."
Just like most of the other petulant immature posters here like Oblasspop, its all about personal selfish reasons, not about your true opinion, or whats best for Canada, or the people.
Well I say...
Fxxx you GMC.
But hey, you will have lots of choice from this "protectionist" gov't:
Canada and Qatar airline deal set to take off
And we will see more flight choice for the Indian community in Canada as well.
The real issue here is INDIA. Not the UAE. The TIGER of Asia is up and coming, and being that it has a democratic process as opposed to others, we should have unilateral trade patnerships with it rather than the others. Politically-like minded countries should support each other.The UAE as a destination is secondary, as its relatively small (comparatively speaking), and daily to YYZ is enough right now. Get on a JFK/YYZ from DXB/AUH and you will see it. That market at this time has to connect through somehwere... FRA/LHR/DXB/AUH/DOH etc..or even HKG/TPE the other direction. The Canadian traveller from the UAE is not complaining here. Because 99.9% of them buy full fare tix. What we have here are the Airline workers who are whining because they cant get their ID90 biz class seat every month or cant fly directly to their home city.