British Airways - CC Industrial Relations Mk V
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I agree that if BASSA knew beforehand then they should have warned crew this was likely to happen.Does any one have proof that they did?
A common feeling amongst cabin crew at the present is that the audit failed due to crew from all the airlines partaking to supply enough receipts .
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
A common feeling amongst cabin crew at the present is that the audit failed due to crew from all the airlines partaking to supply enough receipts .
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
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Romans, MissM and co. Like many on this thread I appreciate your continued input to this thread as it does give us a view into how our colleagues are feeling.
Given that, could you ask the following question on CF/BASSA forum and let us know the answer.
"As HMRC have just handed all Cabin Crew a 1-2% pay cut, how many meetings did BASSA have with HMRC in the last 12 months"
Ta.
Given that, could you ask the following question on CF/BASSA forum and let us know the answer.
"As HMRC have just handed all Cabin Crew a 1-2% pay cut, how many meetings did BASSA have with HMRC in the last 12 months"
Ta.
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I see the debate has now moved, again, on salary.
Not really interested in that I am afraid,
Not really interested in that I am afraid,
Really, Romans44? Isn't salary the prime, fundamental, reason and the reward for work? Is taxation for you and your colleagues beneath your notice?
Or aren't you interested in debating this important issue because the great god of BASSA has been proved to be fallible?
Or perhaps the god BASSA's high priestess - far, far, away - has yet to make a pronouncement on this matter?
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The link has been posted several times previously, and can be easily found on the CAA's website.
UK Airline Statistics: 2008 - annual | Data | Economic Regulation
Look under Table 1 14 Airline Personnel Costs
The data goes back for over a decade.....you just have to search for it.
The link has been posted several times previously, and can be easily found on the CAA's website.
UK Airline Statistics: 2008 - annual | Data | Economic Regulation
Look under Table 1 14 Airline Personnel Costs
The data goes back for over a decade.....you just have to search for it.
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A common feeling amongst cabin crew at the present is that the audit failed due to crew from all the airlines partaking to supply enough receipts .
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
If my experience of Cabin Crew understanding of the exercise was amplified over the WW fleet you can see why the tax rate has increased.
Lastly each group have had the ability to meet with the HMRC alone or together with BA and put forward arguments relating to expenditure. Where were BASSA and what arguments did they put forward, or were they too busy plotting BAs demise to care?
I'm sure someone will ask over on their forum or at the Rally on Monday.
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I agree that if BASSA knew beforehand then they should have warned crew this was likely to happen.Does any one have proof that they did?
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Was only asking as I know that the BASSA diehards will deny any knowledge of being able to negotiate a deal
The opinion really is that they are the innocent victims unlike the cc having to stump up an extra £50 per month in tax.
Was only asking as I know that the BASSA diehards will deny any knowledge of being able to negotiate a deal
The opinion really is that they are the innocent victims unlike the cc having to stump up an extra £50 per month in tax.
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A common feeling amongst cabin crew at the present is that the audit failed due to crew from all the airlines partaking to supply enough receipts .
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
The thought,therefore,is that the fault lays firmly at the door of HMRC and BASSA is blameless.
The silence from BASSA is deafening.
The unions were all given clear advice as to what would happen if the receipt collecting wasn't completed properly. Balpa told all its members that a failure to spend and send in receipts would result in a significant increase to taxable allowances. As one of those nominated for the exercise Balpa made clear to me the dangers of not participating fully.
I'm not sure Bassa did this; did they tell you 617Sqn?
Just ensure that they don't try to blame anyone else - this is precisely the job that unions are in existence for. But Bassa don't understand this. Bassa is merely a vehicle for some individuals to further a personal and political agenda.
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For Your Information
BASSA announced the Tax Audit at their Branch Meeting in April 2008 - they communicated the audit and it's ramifications to all it's members then and throughout the period, providing an information pack as to what was to be done - every single Crew member knew what was happening and knew what they must do if chosen to partake ie collection of receipts etc - that CC failed the audit is quite clearly down to the fact that those concerned did not provide sufficient evidence to convince the taxman - hence the increase (or decrease whichever way you look at it).
The upshot is CC will be taxed around 7% more on their meal allowances than they currently are.
From what I can recall there where two reps working with BA & HMRC on this
The upshot is CC will be taxed around 7% more on their meal allowances than they currently are.
From what I can recall there where two reps working with BA & HMRC on this
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The document on the CAA website makes interesting reading as it shows that British Airways Cabin Crew are the worse paid group of employees in the company (on average!)
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Gatwick is now 36%, down from 82%, so a 46% increase in taxable meal allowances.
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Don't let Bassa fob you off that this was nothing to do with them.
And we all know how Watersidewonker, MissM et al are usually only so pleased to dish out the BASSA party line.
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AIUI, The new rate for WW cabin crew is 41% tax free on meal allowances, down from 65% tax free. So 24% increase in taxable meal allowances.
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All the cabin crew that I flew with knew the importance of submitting receipts,the CSD would sometimes remind people.
My experience was that some of the crew had a hard time and got some funny remarks.
It was a difficult time and I felt sorry for them.
BASSA have not made any statement about this.The hard liners are using it as an excuse to vote yes.
Everybody is suffering,because all cc are subject to this new tax rate.Who else do crew have to represent them and negotiate intelligently?
My experience was that some of the crew had a hard time and got some funny remarks.
It was a difficult time and I felt sorry for them.
BASSA have not made any statement about this.The hard liners are using it as an excuse to vote yes.
Everybody is suffering,because all cc are subject to this new tax rate.Who else do crew have to represent them and negotiate intelligently?