British Airways - CC Industrial Relations Mk V
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Two-tone: nothing is certain in life, is it? I would say, on balance, that you are perfectly 'safe' with your booking.
If by some remote possibility there is a strike called for that period there is an extremely good chance your flight will depart anyway, as most crew will turn up for work as normal.
Good luck!
If by some remote possibility there is a strike called for that period there is an extremely good chance your flight will depart anyway, as most crew will turn up for work as normal.
Good luck!
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MissM #898
BASSA has a right of control of its members
After all, Nanny knows what's best for BASSA.
To paraphrase Karl Marx:
Workers of World Traveller, Unite!
You have nothing to lose but your jobs, your homes, and your lives!
You have nothing to lose but your jobs, your homes, and your lives!
Two-Tone-Blue,
Rumour has it that ballots may be dispatched around 6 January. 4 weeks for balloting, plus at least a week notice to BA would put potential industrial action past the court hearing in early Feb. It seems that this time, BASSA/Unite are not at all sure of their ground - they don't really wish to strike until the outcome of the court case is known.
If the trip is important to you, I would book elsewhere.
Rumour has it that ballots may be dispatched around 6 January. 4 weeks for balloting, plus at least a week notice to BA would put potential industrial action past the court hearing in early Feb. It seems that this time, BASSA/Unite are not at all sure of their ground - they don't really wish to strike until the outcome of the court case is known.
If the trip is important to you, I would book elsewhere.
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Ballots being re-issued on the 18th
Originally Posted by Bassa Forum
We would like to announce that the Branch Meeting of the 4th of Jan which was postponed has now been rescheduled provisionally for the 18th January 11am. Venue is also to be confirmed.
This should tie-in with the dispatch of new ballot papers.
Work is on going at present on the data base to make it as watertight as humanely possible, although BA are refusing reps time off to comply.
Confirmation will come next week once we have spoken to the various venues available, but please pencil this date into your diaries.
A Happy New Year to all!
This should tie-in with the dispatch of new ballot papers.
Work is on going at present on the data base to make it as watertight as humanely possible, although BA are refusing reps time off to comply.
Confirmation will come next week once we have spoken to the various venues available, but please pencil this date into your diaries.
A Happy New Year to all!
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although BA are refusing reps time off to comply.
Happy New Year everyone!
Be interesting to see how much the damages claim will be after BA shred BASSA in the February court case. My bid starts at £110 million!
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Work is on going at present on the data base to make it as watertight as humanely possible
Maybe they are looking for a humane way to put BASSA down like the rabid animal they have become and put them out of our misery. Let's hope
Topbunk
****, you beat me to it.......
Another example of BASSA's attention to detail. Never mind, I'm sure someone at BASSA HQ ran it through a spell checker...the computer says "yes" so it must be correct and you and I must be wrong
Another example of BASSA's attention to detail. Never mind, I'm sure someone at BASSA HQ ran it through a spell checker...the computer says "yes" so it must be correct and you and I must be wrong
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Miss M - congratulations! You are a full and indoctrinated member of the BASSA cult, able to recite the BASSA mantras at ease. Unfortunately, the ability to repeat what I can see in the BASSA literature affords you no credibility in my book, I simply see you as yet another sheep, albeit with the ability to use correct punctuation and grammar.
As for your question:
It simply shows that you have little grasp of the way this works. We have no option other than to take the good AND the bad. So if BA had accepted the ludicrous 2.61% pay CUT the Union offered - we would have had to lump it. Equally, and more worryingly, if BA decide to issue the 90 day notice - we too will probably have to lump it, even though we have voted no and won't strike. But fortunately we have an employer that actually SURVEYED each and every one of us to find out what we wanted, unlike the UNION who made a grossly erroneous offer on our behalf, without consultation. Believe me, if I could go to BF today and negotiate a Fixed Monthly Payment on behalf of myself and the other non-cult members, I would.
So you see it cuts both ways, abit like imposition. Remember when 2 years ago, BA IMPOSED a profit reward, even though they had not achieved the 10% margin? Don't remember you being so vocal then about IMPOSITON Miss M.
If you think 10000 people will strike, you seriously underestimate our community - don't you talk to the people you work with? Remember 1997 when sickness prevailed and only a handful actually took IA? The only difference this time is you will get sacked. Can't quite see GPs across the country feeling any sympathy and issuing sicknotes now, can you? Keep swallowing the cult material, MissM - it will lead you to self-destruction, that is what happens in all cults.
Anyway, just wanted to say Happy New Year to all those BA employees that do work hard, will help out in other cabins/departments etc., and that will do everything possible to get our company back on track in 2010.
To the rest of you, good riddance.
I am a BA cabin crew member and the above represents my own view and not that of BA.
As for your question:
This is a question to you, SlideBustle and Tiramisu
You are all very against BASSA and some of you probably have resigned or thinking of doing so. Are you still accepting all those different allowances and payments (i.e. CAT, LDP, MSH unless they've changed terms) which you have on EF? Because if you are maybe you should remind yourselves about who have actually negotiated these for you... You don't agree with what the union is doing but you are accepting things they have negotiated for you?
You are all very against BASSA and some of you probably have resigned or thinking of doing so. Are you still accepting all those different allowances and payments (i.e. CAT, LDP, MSH unless they've changed terms) which you have on EF? Because if you are maybe you should remind yourselves about who have actually negotiated these for you... You don't agree with what the union is doing but you are accepting things they have negotiated for you?
So you see it cuts both ways, abit like imposition. Remember when 2 years ago, BA IMPOSED a profit reward, even though they had not achieved the 10% margin? Don't remember you being so vocal then about IMPOSITON Miss M.
If you think 10000 people will strike, you seriously underestimate our community - don't you talk to the people you work with? Remember 1997 when sickness prevailed and only a handful actually took IA? The only difference this time is you will get sacked. Can't quite see GPs across the country feeling any sympathy and issuing sicknotes now, can you?
Keep swallowing the cult material, MissM - it will lead you to self-destruction, that is what happens in all cults. Anyway, just wanted to say Happy New Year to all those BA employees that do work hard, will help out in other cabins/departments etc., and that will do everything possible to get our company back on track in 2010.
To the rest of you, good riddance.
I am a BA cabin crew member and the above represents my own view and not that of BA.
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A curious attitude, wonker. I suspect you may have more time to spend at your mansion if BASSA continue down the road to self-ruin. Although I reckon they have passed the point of no return now.
PS: Are you a CSD, by any chance?
PS: Are you a CSD, by any chance?
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Ah, VV !
The voice of reason.
It really is going to have to be a very long wall for you to line all the lumpenproletariat up against, isn't it ?
Bucket of water handy ? Those m/g barrels get hot so quickly.
Mind how you go.
The voice of reason.
It really is going to have to be a very long wall for you to line all the lumpenproletariat up against, isn't it ?
Bucket of water handy ? Those m/g barrels get hot so quickly.
Mind how you go.
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Gosh, this whole thing is being discussed in some rather surprising places, Southampton FC being one of them:
BA = British Leyland of the skies - Saints Web
The author of posts #49 & #104, Fitzhugh Fella, will be familiar to bassa members.
BA = British Leyland of the skies - Saints Web
The author of posts #49 & #104, Fitzhugh Fella, will be familiar to bassa members.
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BASSA has a right of control of its members
That statement is exactly the sort of drivel I would expect from a power crazed megalomaniac, such as Watersidewonker.
MissM could you be Miss Malone??
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Ladies and gentlemen of both the cabin and flight crew, could I please crave your indulgence? From the postings here it looks like your airline is failing from within.
You have just a limited period to get your stuff together.
Can you please settle your differences? A couple of of well-humoured meetings between all parties should settle it.
LU
You have just a limited period to get your stuff together.
Can you please settle your differences? A couple of of well-humoured meetings between all parties should settle it.
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Can you please settle your differences? A couple of of well-humoured meetings between all parties should settle it.
Most of us have excellent relationships with our Flight Crew colleagues. After 26 years of flying, I still maintain the respect and admiration for the job they do. It's only the BASSA militants who with their obnoxious posts here try and create an unnecessary divide.
My apologies to my Flight Crew colleagues on behalf of those of us who don't share their unfortunate views and behaviour.
I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above are my views and not those of my employer's.
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Torc's quiz
Has anyone been bold enough to copy it to the BASSA forum or CF, and if so, how long did it last before being moderated off?
Would anyone feel able to make a few hard copies of this, and of other posts that contain well-reasoned arguments or plausible negotiation positions and quietly leave them around the CRC or even the BASSA offices?
Would anyone feel able to make a few hard copies of this, and of other posts that contain well-reasoned arguments or plausible negotiation positions and quietly leave them around the CRC or even the BASSA offices?
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SlideBustle
What stops you from setting up your own IT business or getting a lovely home with a partner in LA?
No, it's not but recession will be over. Even NIESR reported last year that the recession in UK is over! Whether that's true or not I don't know but the point is that things will get better.
Please strikers, THINK. You may not have much to lose, particularly if you have 2 successful internet business or a lovely home with fab partner in LA to fall back on, and just use BA to fund a rather lovely lifestyle
It is NOT easy finding a new job in a recession...
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Even NIESR reported last year that the recession in UK is over!
But don't let minor little niggly facts get in the way of a good BASSA story.
Even when the recession is over there is no guarantee that yields will return to their previous levels. This financial crash has taught a lot of people the abject stupidity of loading themselves up with debt in the 'have now, pay later' world of the last decade.
Frugality and cost cutting are two things we will see for at least the next decade as the Government, which ever may be in power, tries to claw back the horrendous financial mistakes of the current incumbents.
But hey, I'm sure BA and their premium passengers will still love you enough in the future after yet more pointless IA to hose you down with lateness credits, disturbed rest, disruption allowances etc. etc. etc.
Welcome to the real world.