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Sorry? Wasn't it BASSA that told its members (well, lied to them actually) that they CANNOT be sacked for going on strike?
Let's be truthful about who is telling lies here, shall we?
If you go on strike, you are making yourself a target for termination.
You might want to convince others in your union that this isn't true, but you know it and I know it.
And don't you think they should know it? Is this because the BASSA leadership doesn't want empty picket lines? After all, they'll be busy with important meetings that day, won't they; way too busy to strike.
I see from your message above that you are aggrieved that the pilots are not supporting your Canute-like attempts at stopping the tide.
I get the impression they've never wanted your help - it's probably how they managed to successfully negotiate an agreement with their employer.
Let's be truthful about who is telling lies here, shall we?
If you go on strike, you are making yourself a target for termination.
You might want to convince others in your union that this isn't true, but you know it and I know it.
And don't you think they should know it? Is this because the BASSA leadership doesn't want empty picket lines? After all, they'll be busy with important meetings that day, won't they; way too busy to strike.
I see from your message above that you are aggrieved that the pilots are not supporting your Canute-like attempts at stopping the tide.
I get the impression they've never wanted your help - it's probably how they managed to successfully negotiate an agreement with their employer.
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This isn't some communist state we live in this is a democracy. I am protected if I choose to go on strike. BA may want to sack me for my choosing to withdraw my labour, however I would pursue a claim against BA for unfair dismissal as I am sure would all of my colleagues.
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The ball is already in Willies court. He's ready for a strike. What are you going to do about it?
OzzieO - how long do you think it takes to get a hearing at an employment tribunal at the moment?
OzzieO - how long do you think it takes to get a hearing at an employment tribunal at the moment?
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Desertia, as you know it would not be possible to sack people or terminate their contracts for going on a legally balloted strike. You cannot spout off untruths here.
My post did not comment in any way or could be interpreted that BA's cabin crew would expect any support from our pilots, anymore than we would have supported them over the failed OpenSkies dispute. BA's cabin crew through the intelligent use of IA combined with a legal challenge, will find an elegant solution to their dispute with the company.
We are fine on our own thank you.
My post did not comment in any way or could be interpreted that BA's cabin crew would expect any support from our pilots, anymore than we would have supported them over the failed OpenSkies dispute. BA's cabin crew through the intelligent use of IA combined with a legal challenge, will find an elegant solution to their dispute with the company.
We are fine on our own thank you.
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Hunterboy,
Despite Fume Events interpretation of things it is, sadly, not so clear cut.
Firstly BA will claim that it has attempted to negotiate with BASSA, above and beyond that which it was required and it also extended deadlines and involved ACAS, all to no avail.
BA will claim that the reason for strike, whatever it may be from the rather broad brush that BASSA have posted on their ballot, will damage the business and is illegal. Especially as the strike 'cause' has already been initially tested in court and BASSA lost. So expect BA to call the strike illegal and that BASSA should wait until the full court case in 2010.
BA will also state SOSR as a reason for preventing damaging industrial action and the reason for implementing changes in the face of an incalcitrant union. Look at the current environment where Air Berlin is losing money, LH cannot support an almost bankrupt BMI, AF/KLM are laying off people left right and centre and Virgin are teetering on the brink and still BASSA wants to keep 1970's T's & C's. Think public opinion is behind you? The expenses that are tacked on to a long haul flight are almost at MP levels.
So, even if the 'strike' were to be legally balloted the danger to anyone who takes action based upon flaky advice by BASSA runs the risk of subsequent dismissal. That dismissal may indeed be illegal BUT BA can pull it for years through the tribunals and THEY DO NOT NEED TO GIVE YOU YOUR JOB BACK!
So, if BASSA want to play hard ball and bend the rules don't expect BA not to.
Good luck.
Despite Fume Events interpretation of things it is, sadly, not so clear cut.
Firstly BA will claim that it has attempted to negotiate with BASSA, above and beyond that which it was required and it also extended deadlines and involved ACAS, all to no avail.
BA will claim that the reason for strike, whatever it may be from the rather broad brush that BASSA have posted on their ballot, will damage the business and is illegal. Especially as the strike 'cause' has already been initially tested in court and BASSA lost. So expect BA to call the strike illegal and that BASSA should wait until the full court case in 2010.
BA will also state SOSR as a reason for preventing damaging industrial action and the reason for implementing changes in the face of an incalcitrant union. Look at the current environment where Air Berlin is losing money, LH cannot support an almost bankrupt BMI, AF/KLM are laying off people left right and centre and Virgin are teetering on the brink and still BASSA wants to keep 1970's T's & C's. Think public opinion is behind you? The expenses that are tacked on to a long haul flight are almost at MP levels.
So, even if the 'strike' were to be legally balloted the danger to anyone who takes action based upon flaky advice by BASSA runs the risk of subsequent dismissal. That dismissal may indeed be illegal BUT BA can pull it for years through the tribunals and THEY DO NOT NEED TO GIVE YOU YOUR JOB BACK!
So, if BASSA want to play hard ball and bend the rules don't expect BA not to.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Ozzie O
Hunterboy - Nobody will be sacked for going on strike, and in fact if they are and it is a legal ballot then BA is going to be faced with an awful lot of unfair dismissal cases.
Hunterboy - Nobody will be sacked for going on strike, and in fact if they are and it is a legal ballot then BA is going to be faced with an awful lot of unfair dismissal cases.
Going on strike over changes that aren't contractual will render the ballot illegal. As many of our Flight crew colleagues have mentioned, BA might slam an injunction to stop the strike. Unite have lost as changes have already been imposed on the 16th of Nov for Worldwide and the 1st of Dec for Eurofleet and it's all up and running.
Unite have to proove that the changes are CONTRACTUAL, which will be decided in court in February by which time it will all be over and BA will be recovering costs from Unite which has been said by Carange M in an earlier post.
What I do fear for many of my colleagues is that those who strike may be on new contracts when they return. BA are playing a smart game dotting the i's and crossing the t's in the meantime.
I am no longer with Unite and will be working in the event of a strike. I am sad and dissapointed that both BA and Unite failed to reach agreements amicably. What a pity.
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Tiramisu you wrote in response to what I said below :-
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Originally posted by A Lurker
In fact thinking of it - Eurofleet may stand to be the biggest losers from all of this - yet I don't think many of them realise that yet!!
"Sorry A Lurker, can you please explain what you mean by your above statement?"
What I meant by my statement was the fact that shorthaul flying as we have known it since the advent of commercial travel is no more.
Flying from the UK to mainland Europe is now solely about low cost carriers and minimal service. That is fact - "Premium" travel on carriers such as BA is financially suicidal - thats why I can see BA shorthaul evolving into a low-cost, not no-frills, but low-frills carrier - oh hold on a mo - they have just done that haven't they?
That is no reflection on shorthaul - its just where the market is at - whereas on longhaul there is still a certain demand for 'Premium' travel.
I'm not BASSA bashing or BA bashing - just stating things as I see it
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In fact thinking of it - Eurofleet may stand to be the biggest losers from all of this - yet I don't think many of them realise that yet!!
"Sorry A Lurker, can you please explain what you mean by your above statement?"
What I meant by my statement was the fact that shorthaul flying as we have known it since the advent of commercial travel is no more.
Flying from the UK to mainland Europe is now solely about low cost carriers and minimal service. That is fact - "Premium" travel on carriers such as BA is financially suicidal - thats why I can see BA shorthaul evolving into a low-cost, not no-frills, but low-frills carrier - oh hold on a mo - they have just done that haven't they?
That is no reflection on shorthaul - its just where the market is at - whereas on longhaul there is still a certain demand for 'Premium' travel.
I'm not BASSA bashing or BA bashing - just stating things as I see it
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I got banned (probably deservedly) for a post attacking another poster.
I see the subject of my frustration has several times attacked other posters recently.
I think the whole thing about sackings is a red herring and, as several people have pointed out, yes WW could sack strikers and deal with the subsequent fallout.
He probably wont do that though since he doesn't need to.
He has other options which will be a lot easier to justify.
His best bet is just to let the thing run until the court case.
By then the strike will have gone away through apathy on the day.
Unite will be dealing with compulsory redundancies in the car industry and BASSA will be trying to renegotiate themselves back from the abyss into which they have fallen.
They may even have compulsory redundancies of their own to worry about.
Oh, I wouldn't hold out for those large working one down payments that BASSA talk about.
I see the subject of my frustration has several times attacked other posters recently.
I think the whole thing about sackings is a red herring and, as several people have pointed out, yes WW could sack strikers and deal with the subsequent fallout.
He probably wont do that though since he doesn't need to.
He has other options which will be a lot easier to justify.
His best bet is just to let the thing run until the court case.
By then the strike will have gone away through apathy on the day.
Unite will be dealing with compulsory redundancies in the car industry and BASSA will be trying to renegotiate themselves back from the abyss into which they have fallen.
They may even have compulsory redundancies of their own to worry about.
Oh, I wouldn't hold out for those large working one down payments that BASSA talk about.
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Originally posted by A Lurker
I'm not BASSA bashing or BA bashing - just stating things as I see it
I'm not BASSA bashing or BA bashing - just stating things as I see it
Not at all, I didn't think you were. Thanks for the reply to my question and explaining what you meant.
Best regards.
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A Lurker,
Hope the wine was good.
Ironically BA SH costs are amalgamated into the highest cost ticket anyway. Thus a passenger connecting to a LH flight in Heathrow from a BA SH connecting flight has his SH ticket revenue allocated to the LH profit. Whilst SH figures don't show the revenue from connecting passengers SH has still managed to make a profit in the past.
Where does SH differ? Primarily in the point to point operating to major hub airports around Europe unlike certain Low Cost alternatives where, if you're lucky, you might end up in the same country.
Having a LH executive club, premium airline is no good unless you have the feeder routes to supply it and, preferably, on the same ticket stub to allow for easy connection.
I think we will see SH here for some time to come.
As to the Iberia 'deal' where are the facts? Why does it not being on ESS make it so sensational? What were the IB crew threatening IA over?
Once again CFC, rhetoric and one liners without fact. As always BASSA pick and choose the cherries without bothering to see what is killing the tree. Shall we take all the IB agreements? Pilots at IB are paid better than BA for example and CC wouldn't want to see the introduction of Iberia staff travel regs!
Hope the wine was good.
Flying from the UK to mainland Europe is now solely about low cost carriers and minimal service. That is fact - "Premium" travel on carriers such as BA is financially suicidal - thats why I can see BA shorthaul evolving into a low-cost, not no-frills, but low-frills carrier - oh hold on a mo - they have just done that haven't they?
Where does SH differ? Primarily in the point to point operating to major hub airports around Europe unlike certain Low Cost alternatives where, if you're lucky, you might end up in the same country.
Having a LH executive club, premium airline is no good unless you have the feeder routes to supply it and, preferably, on the same ticket stub to allow for easy connection.
I think we will see SH here for some time to come.
As to the Iberia 'deal' where are the facts? Why does it not being on ESS make it so sensational? What were the IB crew threatening IA over?
Once again CFC, rhetoric and one liners without fact. As always BASSA pick and choose the cherries without bothering to see what is killing the tree. Shall we take all the IB agreements? Pilots at IB are paid better than BA for example and CC wouldn't want to see the introduction of Iberia staff travel regs!
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Cabin crews from Spanish airline Iberia yesterday axed plans for a series of one-day strikes in the coming weeks after reaching a pay agreement with the carrier, a union spokesman said.
"We have removed the notice (of strike action) after a verbal agreement reached on Thursday with management, that we should sign (on Friday)," said Alfredo Gutierrez, a spokesman for union SITCPLA.
Iberia said the cabin crews would get a four-percent pay increase for 2009, as unions had been demanding in the row which had been running for several weeks.
The move marks the first pay increase for staff since their salaries were frozen in 2005.
Following the agreement, cabin crews axed plans to walk out on November 30, and on December 1, 2, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18.
The staff had already gone on strike on four days in the salary row, in October and this month, which led to Iberia cancelling more than 700 flights.
British Airways and Iberia last week agreed to a tie-up which will create Europe's second-biggest airline by market capitalisation after Lufthansa. British Airways would be the dominant partner, holding 55 per cent of the new company, while Iberia will hold 45 per cent.
Airlines have been hard hit by the global economic downturn and Iberia last month announced a savings plan, which included a hiring freeze and a salary freeze.
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4% over four years doesn't sound like much of a victory does it? Doesn't even say it's backdated. Can we say "hollow victory"? Or perhaps "Let's settle for something quickly before that Walsh fellow takes over"?
"We have removed the notice (of strike action) after a verbal agreement reached on Thursday with management, that we should sign (on Friday)," said Alfredo Gutierrez, a spokesman for union SITCPLA.
Iberia said the cabin crews would get a four-percent pay increase for 2009, as unions had been demanding in the row which had been running for several weeks.
The move marks the first pay increase for staff since their salaries were frozen in 2005.
Following the agreement, cabin crews axed plans to walk out on November 30, and on December 1, 2, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18.
The staff had already gone on strike on four days in the salary row, in October and this month, which led to Iberia cancelling more than 700 flights.
British Airways and Iberia last week agreed to a tie-up which will create Europe's second-biggest airline by market capitalisation after Lufthansa. British Airways would be the dominant partner, holding 55 per cent of the new company, while Iberia will hold 45 per cent.
Airlines have been hard hit by the global economic downturn and Iberia last month announced a savings plan, which included a hiring freeze and a salary freeze.
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4% over four years doesn't sound like much of a victory does it? Doesn't even say it's backdated. Can we say "hollow victory"? Or perhaps "Let's settle for something quickly before that Walsh fellow takes over"?
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So that's Lufthansa and Iberia now who have received pay rises this year through industrial action.
Someone please remind me what pay demands BA's cabin crew are making? Surely they are not about to strike merely to protect their contracts from a predatory employer? Perhaps a negotiated settlement can be found to this self-inflicted industrial dispute by BA?
Someone please remind me what pay demands BA's cabin crew are making? Surely they are not about to strike merely to protect their contracts from a predatory employer? Perhaps a negotiated settlement can be found to this self-inflicted industrial dispute by BA?
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So that's Lufthansa and Iberia now who have received pay rises this year through industrial action.
Now, what is missing from the BASSA argument again?
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To the person who suggested Executive Club members support the crew in their actions - Think again. Anything which affects the travel plans of your most loyal and profitable group of customers will never get their support. There are threads on Flyertalk from such frequent flyers saying what a pain in the backside all this talk of strike is.
Do you think exec club members care about how much the crew get paid? They just want frequent and safe services between the worlds major cities. Sad as it may seem, the Executive Club members place a higher value on the Club World Sleeper seat and lounge provision afforded by British Airways than the crew they provide - Just as Virgins Frequent Flyers did when their feedback suggested that their main reasons for flying VS were the Clubhouses and the Upper Class suite - The end result of that being the ditching of the InFlight Beauty Therapists. They are now gone with little impact of the success of the Virgin J Class product.
Exec Club members care about being able to sleep in a flat bed during their journey and being able to have free food and drink at lounges at either end of their journey. Any strike will inconvenience many of them - but they're actually quite a fickle bunch - and chuck them a few thousand BA miles for each inconvenience and they still come back (I got about 100,000 ba miles for the catering inconveniences - a free J flight to CPT thankyou very much).
The crew lost public support when the figures were published in the national press which showed the significant allowances some of the routes provided. The public at large - exec club members included - cannot understand how 5 days in the far east should involve payments of almost £1000. (Forgive me for not remembering the exact figures).
As an Exec Club member I hope there is no strike because quite frankly it would be a pain in the backside but if there is one - I will make my travel plans elsewhere for a while and all the time count my BA Mile account growing increasingly larger and plan which routes to use them when all this is sorted out.
People have also commented on this forum about how poor the Club product has now become. True it is not as good as it was - but its still significantly better than much of the competition. Am I going to switch carrier because of the quality and quantity of the food served? no - because I love your flat bed and your lounges - and BA know that.
Do you think exec club members care about how much the crew get paid? They just want frequent and safe services between the worlds major cities. Sad as it may seem, the Executive Club members place a higher value on the Club World Sleeper seat and lounge provision afforded by British Airways than the crew they provide - Just as Virgins Frequent Flyers did when their feedback suggested that their main reasons for flying VS were the Clubhouses and the Upper Class suite - The end result of that being the ditching of the InFlight Beauty Therapists. They are now gone with little impact of the success of the Virgin J Class product.
Exec Club members care about being able to sleep in a flat bed during their journey and being able to have free food and drink at lounges at either end of their journey. Any strike will inconvenience many of them - but they're actually quite a fickle bunch - and chuck them a few thousand BA miles for each inconvenience and they still come back (I got about 100,000 ba miles for the catering inconveniences - a free J flight to CPT thankyou very much).
The crew lost public support when the figures were published in the national press which showed the significant allowances some of the routes provided. The public at large - exec club members included - cannot understand how 5 days in the far east should involve payments of almost £1000. (Forgive me for not remembering the exact figures).
As an Exec Club member I hope there is no strike because quite frankly it would be a pain in the backside but if there is one - I will make my travel plans elsewhere for a while and all the time count my BA Mile account growing increasingly larger and plan which routes to use them when all this is sorted out.
People have also commented on this forum about how poor the Club product has now become. True it is not as good as it was - but its still significantly better than much of the competition. Am I going to switch carrier because of the quality and quantity of the food served? no - because I love your flat bed and your lounges - and BA know that.
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As a recent victim of the Brown Junjaweed militia (HMRC). They can go back 6 years following your declaration. If they dont like what they see its twenty years. This is all based on voluntary disclosure and payment after they inform you of your liabilities, oversight or simple absentmindedness. If you choose to wait and see or they just come after you you can bet your £2.20 an hour food stamps that you'll be a walking financial forensic autopsy.
Its all done in the best taste. You are a client and they want to help you sort out your error. As soon as you co-perate they become bastards. Dont co-perate and youll wish they were ONLY bastards.
Cant think of a better fate for the commuting dinosaurs of Bassa leadership.
Its all done in the best taste. You are a client and they want to help you sort out your error. As soon as you co-perate they become bastards. Dont co-perate and youll wish they were ONLY bastards.
Cant think of a better fate for the commuting dinosaurs of Bassa leadership.
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More last-minute straw-clutching....
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Following the legal proceedings initiated against BA regarding imposition of new terms and conditions the Court has ordered our lawyers OH Parsons to provide a list of members of cabin crew who want to pursue the claim against BA. That list has to be submitted to the Court no later than 7 December.
We need the maximum to put their names forward as additional Claimants. All cabin crew are urged to put forward their names. Members who want to join the claim, should send their name and BA staff number to the following address:
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Please add your name to the list before 7 December 2009. If you do not do so by that date, the lawyers cannot include your name in the list of Claimants
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We need details of your experience of working to the imposed rosters. Please let the union lawyers OH Parsons have details of your experiences on flights when the new crewing levels operate. The issues that we are looking for are:
· Working more intensively
· Cutting down on breaks
· Stress, illness or even injury caused by working shorthanded.
Please send this information to:
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When sending your report, please include the following information:
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· Flight number and date
· Problems experienced when working shorthanded
Arrangements will then be made to obtain a statement from you.
ONCE AGAIN YOU WILL SUFFER NO DETRIMENT TO YOUR EMPLOYMENT BY SUPPLYING THE ABOVE INFORMATION.
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Perhaps a legal eagle could tell me. If you put your name to a legal case which you lose, are you not then partially responsible for the (large at High court) costs that could be awarded to the other side?
We need your help!
There are two very important issues on your page that need your attention. Please take time to read the text below carefully and take action.
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Following the legal proceedings initiated against BA regarding imposition of new terms and conditions the Court has ordered our lawyers OH Parsons to provide a list of members of cabin crew who want to pursue the claim against BA. That list has to be submitted to the Court no later than 7 December.
We need the maximum to put their names forward as additional Claimants. All cabin crew are urged to put forward their names. Members who want to join the claim, should send their name and BA staff number to the following address:
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Please add your name to the list before 7 December 2009. If you do not do so by that date, the lawyers cannot include your name in the list of Claimants
YOU WILL SUFFER NO DETRIMENT TO YOUR EMPLOYMENT BY SIGNING UP AS A CLAIMANT
Working Shorthanded
We need details of your experience of working to the imposed rosters. Please let the union lawyers OH Parsons have details of your experiences on flights when the new crewing levels operate. The issues that we are looking for are:
· Working more intensively
· Cutting down on breaks
· Stress, illness or even injury caused by working shorthanded.
Please send this information to:
<ourlawyersemail>
When sending your report, please include the following information:
· Your name, address and staff number
· Flight number and date
· Problems experienced when working shorthanded
Arrangements will then be made to obtain a statement from you.
ONCE AGAIN YOU WILL SUFFER NO DETRIMENT TO YOUR EMPLOYMENT BY SUPPLYING THE ABOVE INFORMATION.
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Perhaps a legal eagle could tell me. If you put your name to a legal case which you lose, are you not then partially responsible for the (large at High court) costs that could be awarded to the other side?
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Breach Of Contract
As I understand it, BASSA are claiming that BA is in breach of contract by altering crew numbers from that agreed previously with the unions.
Cabin crew contracts do not specify numbers of crew working on the aircraft, merely that you are contracted to do the wishes of your employer, and within agreements made from time to time with the unions.
I expect that BA will state that those agreements became null and void when the unions failed to discuss, for instance, the handing out of hot towels in World Traveller Plus.
The moment the union failed to discuss such things, the "agreements" started to break down. Independent evidence of failure to discuss things could be provided perhaps by ACAS as well, when BASSA and Cabin Crew 89 reps would not meet in the same room with BA.
Any thoughts whether BASSA may have been hoisted on their petard..........or their own hot towel?
Cabin crew contracts do not specify numbers of crew working on the aircraft, merely that you are contracted to do the wishes of your employer, and within agreements made from time to time with the unions.
I expect that BA will state that those agreements became null and void when the unions failed to discuss, for instance, the handing out of hot towels in World Traveller Plus.
The moment the union failed to discuss such things, the "agreements" started to break down. Independent evidence of failure to discuss things could be provided perhaps by ACAS as well, when BASSA and Cabin Crew 89 reps would not meet in the same room with BA.
Any thoughts whether BASSA may have been hoisted on their petard..........or their own hot towel?
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Perhaps a legal eagle could tell me. If you put your name to a legal case which you lose, are you not then partially responsible for the (large at High court) costs that could be awarded to the other side?
Before anyone even thinks of joining the case as a claimant they must get clarity from BASSA (correction: in writing from the lawyers handling the case) on the position on court costs (which are going to be a 6-7 figure sum, we're not talking about a couple of hundred quid...). I believe if you are a joint-claimant you are theoretically proportionally liable for any costs. Happy to proved wrong by a lawyer.
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