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Bad Hat Harry,
If the rumours of VR are true, i assure you that they are more to do with a strategic plan by Qantas as opposed to as a result of our current economic environment. With 900 new QCCA expected to be onboard by end of the year, i'm sure they wouldnt mind letting go of a few QLH.
Not in favour, but hey its reality....
If the rumours of VR are true, i assure you that they are more to do with a strategic plan by Qantas as opposed to as a result of our current economic environment. With 900 new QCCA expected to be onboard by end of the year, i'm sure they wouldnt mind letting go of a few QLH.
Not in favour, but hey its reality....
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jaffac yes I'm currently with QCCA. The people contacted are not friends or acquaintances of mine. I believe one of them went through in February, the other I have no idea. Don't apologise for the questions we all know how frustrating the process can be. But you do have to remember there is no rhyme or reason as to how they do things, when it happens it happens.
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I don't see why they couldn't offer VR while they are recruiting. If it's voluntary, then there really should be no issue with it considering it's an option. With the $$$$$ compensation payout that QF are receiving from Boeing due to the late arrival of 787, this gives them a nice sum of money to use for some redundancy payouts. Besides, i think some crew will be lining up to take the offer...
I don't see why they couldn't offer VR while they are recruiting. If it's voluntary, then there really should be no issue with it considering it's an option. With the $$$$$ compensation payout that QF are receiving from Boeing due to the late arrival of 787, this gives them a nice sum of money to use for some redundancy payouts. Besides, i think some crew will be lining up to take the offer...
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Yes, I suppose so on all points.
Just curious. Are there taxation benefits applicable for those who choose to a take voluntary redundancy package?
I'm sure there are for those who take compulsory redundancy.
Just curious. Are there taxation benefits applicable for those who choose to a take voluntary redundancy package?
I'm sure there are for those who take compulsory redundancy.
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QCCA Questions
Hi Everyone!
I'm a newbie and I have lots of questions about the recruitment day for QCCA. Please feel free to send me a PM if you don't want to post
* For Sydney interviews, where are they held?
* What sort of tests do you have to do on the day? Is any maths involved?
* For the group interviews, what type of activities do you participate in?
* When you hand in your resume on the day do they ask for it not to be in a folder or plastic sleeve?
* How many role plays are there? Is it/are they easy?
* How many questions do they ask at the panel interviews? Do they keep probing with more questions?
* Do I need to do a lot of Qantas research?
Sorry about all the questions, I am trying to prepare myself for a recruitment day (should I be invited to one) and want to be as least nervous as possible.
Thanks!
Kanga Q
I'm a newbie and I have lots of questions about the recruitment day for QCCA. Please feel free to send me a PM if you don't want to post
* For Sydney interviews, where are they held?
* What sort of tests do you have to do on the day? Is any maths involved?
* For the group interviews, what type of activities do you participate in?
* When you hand in your resume on the day do they ask for it not to be in a folder or plastic sleeve?
* How many role plays are there? Is it/are they easy?
* How many questions do they ask at the panel interviews? Do they keep probing with more questions?
* Do I need to do a lot of Qantas research?
Sorry about all the questions, I am trying to prepare myself for a recruitment day (should I be invited to one) and want to be as least nervous as possible.
Thanks!
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QCCA Interview syd
Hi there
I was in the syd interview on a tues over 5 weeks ago now., and i have just recived and email STATUS OF APPLICATION !!!
Well they went on to explain there are a lot of quality applicants and we may take another 4 weeks to respond to you .They will be checking refs etc, so if you think im happy well YEP !!
Thats not to say i have the job ,but hey its not a straight out NO !!
I have kepted in touch with 2 nice people i meet on the day and we all have recived the same email. EMMMMM.
I know from current crew that qf is really short staffed and flat out requirting, so what do you do but just hope and pray. Im an ex flighty i am not saying that i have a better chance,i just love the job so much !!
Kind regards
Scott
Ps let me know if you where in syd on a tues for the interview ok !!
I was in the syd interview on a tues over 5 weeks ago now., and i have just recived and email STATUS OF APPLICATION !!!
Well they went on to explain there are a lot of quality applicants and we may take another 4 weeks to respond to you .They will be checking refs etc, so if you think im happy well YEP !!
Thats not to say i have the job ,but hey its not a straight out NO !!
I have kepted in touch with 2 nice people i meet on the day and we all have recived the same email. EMMMMM.
I know from current crew that qf is really short staffed and flat out requirting, so what do you do but just hope and pray. Im an ex flighty i am not saying that i have a better chance,i just love the job so much !!
Kind regards
Scott
Ps let me know if you where in syd on a tues for the interview ok !!
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Hey beachbum.
I was at an interview just under 6 weeks ago now, and I still haven't heard a thing.
I haven't even got the 'you'll know more in 4 weeks' email... so I have no idea what's going on with my application.
Oh well.. there's nothing I can do but keep on waiting.
Good luck though!
I was at an interview just under 6 weeks ago now, and I still haven't heard a thing.
I haven't even got the 'you'll know more in 4 weeks' email... so I have no idea what's going on with my application.
Oh well.. there's nothing I can do but keep on waiting.
Good luck though!
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Hey beachbum66
I went to an interview on the monday just over 5 weeks ago, the day before you I'm guessing! I received this email a few weeks ago and have not heard anything since.....
all the best with your application
all the best with your application
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Recruitment and Current Evaluations
The Aviation Cycle is turning down largely due to enormous increases in fuel costs.
Everything is being reviewed including recruitment.
Expect to be put on hold for a protracted period of time.
Everything is being reviewed including recruitment.
Expect to be put on hold for a protracted period of time.
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I had my interview in melbourne 12 weeks and 1 day ago now!!
Still have not heard a thing....no emails or any contact has been made at all from them
I called them last week to check I'm still on their system and they told me to just be patient
Still have not heard a thing....no emails or any contact has been made at all from them
I called them last week to check I'm still on their system and they told me to just be patient
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soon there will be illegal immigrants working for 4 bucks and food for these airlines. Think about it and get a real job that pays what you deserve. IT IS NOT like the old days, prior to 2001. Layovers were longer, GOOD money, sconditions were better, swapping better etc....
The good days of flying is gone. If you really want to fly, the middle eastern airlines is the way to go. They have the cheap fuel, the money to pay its staff what they deserve and are expanding all over the place!!!
Here, u get 37k base plus allowances +equals MAX $55k/year that's less than $20 per hour after tax and a bus to get home before /after a flight, forget a cab as it is not entitled in the EBA8 for qcca crew.
It is NOT glam AT ALL, cleaning toilets and getting the worst duties onboard, even pax feel sorry for crew. Dealing with overbearing pax that pay nothing and want it all and dealing with their smelly babies thinking thay you are now a nanny as well. While the pax across the aisle wants the 30th gin+tonic and then vomits on you as you walk past. Then cleaning this....Layovers are good but short. Getting drunk is the main objective.
If u want to get to travel the world ,get an education or a well paid job and pay for a confirmed seat and ring that call button.....
cheers
Cheers
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The good days of flying is gone. If you really want to fly, the middle eastern airlines is the way to go. They have the cheap fuel, the money to pay its staff what they deserve and are expanding all over the place!!!
Here, u get 37k base plus allowances +equals MAX $55k/year that's less than $20 per hour after tax and a bus to get home before /after a flight, forget a cab as it is not entitled in the EBA8 for qcca crew.
It is NOT glam AT ALL, cleaning toilets and getting the worst duties onboard, even pax feel sorry for crew. Dealing with overbearing pax that pay nothing and want it all and dealing with their smelly babies thinking thay you are now a nanny as well. While the pax across the aisle wants the 30th gin+tonic and then vomits on you as you walk past. Then cleaning this....Layovers are good but short. Getting drunk is the main objective.
If u want to get to travel the world ,get an education or a well paid job and pay for a confirmed seat and ring that call button.....
cheers
Cheers
Cheers
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Red & White
Well it's true, it's no longer 2001...
Just because you are "over it" doesn't mean there's nothing of value to someone else. Jumping up and down about how crap the job is, sadly won't turn back the hands of time. Let those who want to do it at the current pay do so.
Yes pay and conditions are not what they were, but there are now hundreds more cabin crew places for those wanting to do it. I personally wouldn't bring back 2001 for anything. I like affordable airfares. In a country this big, it is a blessing to be able to get around it in a few hours instead of days. Would I rather sit in a car for 3 days or a plane for 2 hours...difficult choice that.
So what if pax are antsy? I don't get any better treatment on the local road in my car, in a shop or a cafe for that matter. People in general are antsy and have little to no control over their own emotional response. Working in another industry won't solve that.
Would I take more money for the job if I was offered it? Of course, but I don't see what excluding myself from the job in protest would gain me. I'd just be upset, titchy and not living my dream.
As for the Middle East? Some of us like Oz. I wouldn't want to be relocating myself there, even IF I was young enough to still be hired by them. Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of posts on this forum lead me to believe that Middle East Airlines....
Don't pay all that well, you just get free accomodation
Don't have great layovers, minimal rest is often cited
Require a lot of years at the bottom to get things like decent bidding & promotion prospects
Don't have better behaved customers. They just wear more gold jewellery.
Aren't particularly employee friendly
Just because you are "over it" doesn't mean there's nothing of value to someone else. Jumping up and down about how crap the job is, sadly won't turn back the hands of time. Let those who want to do it at the current pay do so.
Yes pay and conditions are not what they were, but there are now hundreds more cabin crew places for those wanting to do it. I personally wouldn't bring back 2001 for anything. I like affordable airfares. In a country this big, it is a blessing to be able to get around it in a few hours instead of days. Would I rather sit in a car for 3 days or a plane for 2 hours...difficult choice that.
So what if pax are antsy? I don't get any better treatment on the local road in my car, in a shop or a cafe for that matter. People in general are antsy and have little to no control over their own emotional response. Working in another industry won't solve that.
Would I take more money for the job if I was offered it? Of course, but I don't see what excluding myself from the job in protest would gain me. I'd just be upset, titchy and not living my dream.
As for the Middle East? Some of us like Oz. I wouldn't want to be relocating myself there, even IF I was young enough to still be hired by them. Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of posts on this forum lead me to believe that Middle East Airlines....
Don't pay all that well, you just get free accomodation
Don't have great layovers, minimal rest is often cited
Require a lot of years at the bottom to get things like decent bidding & promotion prospects
Don't have better behaved customers. They just wear more gold jewellery.
Aren't particularly employee friendly
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The glory days are gone my friends and it's time you all realised that.
Red or white the reason any airline can get away with offering lower wages and conditions than before is because the demand to actually do the job is so high. Thousands of people line up for this job and are willing to take a cut to do it if even for a year or two. It is not a specialised job, it doesn't need a degree, and there are plenty of people wanting to do it.
It is true it is not the career it used to be, but it is the career you choose to make of it. At the end of the day, you don't like it then leave it.
And just to correct you red or white QCCA crew have the same transport entitlements that QF crew have. Taxi's are provided depending on the duty and the call out, I suggest you brush up on the whole EBA.
Red or white the reason any airline can get away with offering lower wages and conditions than before is because the demand to actually do the job is so high. Thousands of people line up for this job and are willing to take a cut to do it if even for a year or two. It is not a specialised job, it doesn't need a degree, and there are plenty of people wanting to do it.
It is true it is not the career it used to be, but it is the career you choose to make of it. At the end of the day, you don't like it then leave it.
And just to correct you red or white QCCA crew have the same transport entitlements that QF crew have. Taxi's are provided depending on the duty and the call out, I suggest you brush up on the whole EBA.
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Red or White....
Have you actually worked for a Middle Eastern Airline???? If not I suggest you go try and then come back here and tell me how better off it is. I can talk from experience having worked for both a middle eastern airline, and now a Australian one. My friend it is no better in the middle east. The rise in the Australian Dollar means that the middle eastern currency is worth nothing back here. The slips are minimal. The passengers, well let's not go there, they are horrible, and on a final note management are not the best bunch to deal with......
Times have changed and you gotta move with them. If your not happy yourself working for the airlines then leave.
Have you actually worked for a Middle Eastern Airline???? If not I suggest you go try and then come back here and tell me how better off it is. I can talk from experience having worked for both a middle eastern airline, and now a Australian one. My friend it is no better in the middle east. The rise in the Australian Dollar means that the middle eastern currency is worth nothing back here. The slips are minimal. The passengers, well let's not go there, they are horrible, and on a final note management are not the best bunch to deal with......
Times have changed and you gotta move with them. If your not happy yourself working for the airlines then leave.
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Airborne....u make me laugh...""They just wear more gold jewellery.
Aren't particularly employee friendly"" You have just nailed it..!
No, I have not worked in the m'east but know crew. If I am wrong about working in the m'east I do apologise, no problems with that at all. They do however earn taxfree,free accomm etc...so not a bad deal for a 2-3 year period compared to putting in a 2-3 year period with qcca and mam..
Guys I know...If I am over it I should just go..yes with coming VR I might..
What I mean is that this job has become so LOWER economic bracket that it is awkward telling somebody that you work as a FA, they almost can't look you in the eyes as they think you are a cleaner or ...
A LONG time ago you actually had to have an education to do this job,
teacher,fireman,nurse....Now.. I don't know what to say..Some nice kids that never have been on an aircraft before and are now serving in J class and discussing wines..Sorry...Maybe its time to go and see this mess unfold.
Cheers (Not trying to be cynical or negative..this is a true view of some older crew..if all you have ever wanted to do is fly,yes go for it but burst that bubble before you start GS)
Aren't particularly employee friendly"" You have just nailed it..!
No, I have not worked in the m'east but know crew. If I am wrong about working in the m'east I do apologise, no problems with that at all. They do however earn taxfree,free accomm etc...so not a bad deal for a 2-3 year period compared to putting in a 2-3 year period with qcca and mam..
Guys I know...If I am over it I should just go..yes with coming VR I might..
What I mean is that this job has become so LOWER economic bracket that it is awkward telling somebody that you work as a FA, they almost can't look you in the eyes as they think you are a cleaner or ...
A LONG time ago you actually had to have an education to do this job,
teacher,fireman,nurse....Now.. I don't know what to say..Some nice kids that never have been on an aircraft before and are now serving in J class and discussing wines..Sorry...Maybe its time to go and see this mess unfold.
Cheers (Not trying to be cynical or negative..this is a true view of some older crew..if all you have ever wanted to do is fly,yes go for it but burst that bubble before you start GS)
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Yes I think it's much harder for someone who's seen better days in aviation to now settle for the current reality. Must be disappointing to say the least. I've never known anything else and therefore am much more easily settled into the current T&C's.
I'm university educated, have a long term high paying career behind me and come to this job with a modicum of experience under my belt. My choice defy's all logic because the alternative for me is actually a much better paying position in a nice modern office with a view. But still I choose this, even with it's shortcomings. Some of us are here because we can't see ourselves anywhere else and that has to be a good thing.
I am a believer that everything has it's season. Low cost may be the flavour of the month but give it time and premium will be back in fashion. Things do tend to get better over time even if they appear to be falling apart in the short term. How many FA's thought it was the end of their world back in the collapse of Ansett, and Impulse and Compass? Yet today we have such stability and choice in airlines in Oz.
Hang in there if you can or maybe just look for an employer that appreciates your experience and finesse...
I'm university educated, have a long term high paying career behind me and come to this job with a modicum of experience under my belt. My choice defy's all logic because the alternative for me is actually a much better paying position in a nice modern office with a view. But still I choose this, even with it's shortcomings. Some of us are here because we can't see ourselves anywhere else and that has to be a good thing.
I am a believer that everything has it's season. Low cost may be the flavour of the month but give it time and premium will be back in fashion. Things do tend to get better over time even if they appear to be falling apart in the short term. How many FA's thought it was the end of their world back in the collapse of Ansett, and Impulse and Compass? Yet today we have such stability and choice in airlines in Oz.
Hang in there if you can or maybe just look for an employer that appreciates your experience and finesse...
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What I mean is that this job has become so LOWER economic bracket that it is awkward telling somebody that you work as a FA, they almost can't look you in the eyes as they think you are a cleaner or ...
It may have become this to you but there are people out there that still take pride in what they do. Cleaning the toilets has always been a part of the job even in the glory days! They did not have cleaners to do that for the crew!
The role has changed and sure at times it has become more demanding but point out an industry that has not had to change? Evolve? Do Bank clercks do the EXACT same task they did 4-9-10-15 years ago?
Maybe it is time to look elswhere. But while you are here, please don't bring everyone down as I am sure they just don't want to hear it!
It may have become this to you but there are people out there that still take pride in what they do. Cleaning the toilets has always been a part of the job even in the glory days! They did not have cleaners to do that for the crew!
The role has changed and sure at times it has become more demanding but point out an industry that has not had to change? Evolve? Do Bank clercks do the EXACT same task they did 4-9-10-15 years ago?
Maybe it is time to look elswhere. But while you are here, please don't bring everyone down as I am sure they just don't want to hear it!