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meleagertoo 20th Jul 2023 10:26

Ha - roof rack! No wonder we never thought of that!

Noyade 20th Jul 2023 23:45


Originally Posted by thnarg (Post 11470500)
Dayton-Wright FP.2 should complete the paperwork for you

It does.
Proceed. :)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7bd17b58f.jpg


thnarg 21st Jul 2023 07:47

G’day Noyade and thanks. That goes in my training file.

A genuine query if I may because I don’t know this one. Regular readers will know my aircraft recognition has limitations and looking on the interweb recently concerning a family connection I saw this labelled as a Handley Page Halifax cockpit:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....156506f59.jpeg
… which it obviously isn’t, but what is it?

No prizes, just gratitude (although Noyade might send you a certificate).

dixi188 21st Jul 2023 08:43

I love the light switch above the throttles, my first house had those.
No idea what cockpit though.

D26 21st Jul 2023 09:40

Not so difficult this time: AVRO ANSON MK 1. K6183. Beautifully restored.
It's for sale too! https://www.classicaircraftsales.com...ngs/avro-anson

thnarg 21st Jul 2023 09:53

Thanks for that D26, and you’re right it is a lovely restoration. Ironically I was at the Omaka museum earlier this year and highly recommend a visit. And Dixi, that brass switch is for the headlight!

D26 can now resume normal service.

D26 21st Jul 2023 10:37

Thanks thnarg. The brass switch and the magnetic compass pointed to a British aircraft. The instrument in general look WW2 and the size of the cockpit to a medium size twin engine aircraft.

Open House please.

meleagertoo 22nd Jul 2023 11:55

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e59d8eb957.png

thnarg 23rd Jul 2023 10:59

Very quiet over here today so let’s start.
Twin engine, open cockpit (or sliding canopy?). Can’t see a gear lever unless it’s one of those at the bottom of the column, so fixed gear? Wouldn’t have liked to fly it in IMC with those instruments, so military?

BEagle 23rd Jul 2023 11:18

Weird looking thing:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b48bf790.jpeg
Belyayev DB-LK

meleagertoo 23rd Jul 2023 11:43

How the heck did you do that?

Asturias56 24th Jul 2023 08:14


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11472370)

looks like the Twin Mustang

meleagertoo 24th Jul 2023 10:58

Asturias has control with yet another miraculous ident!

No he doesn't! My mistake, this is Beagle's win.
How did you get that Beags? Did you recognise it or research it? - I thought this was so unusual it'd escaped most peoples'notice.

To me it bears very little resemblance to the Twin Mustang, or to anything else for that matter. A real one of a kind.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3601fa2ef5.png
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6cf5be7fd4.png

BEagle 24th Jul 2023 11:09


Looks like the Twin Mustang
The Belyayev DB-LK was a prototype Russian long-range bomber, whereas the much smaller F-82 was a long-range fighter:


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5143c86d95.jpg

Err, actually meleagertoo, I identfied it first and was waiting until 24hr before posting a new challenge!

But as you wish....

meleagertoo 24th Jul 2023 12:14

Sorry Beagle, my mistake - of course you did. Post amended.

BEagle 24th Jul 2023 14:27

Thanks, meleagertoo!

Next cockpit challenge:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....835f04d586.jpg

D26 24th Jul 2023 16:13

That's an easy one!

Noyade 25th Jul 2023 06:40

Focke-Wulf Fw 190D-9?


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8c2fb492fa.jpg

Noyade 25th Jul 2023 06:47


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11472415)
Constellation....

Another one - saw this one at HARS Aviation Museum in Albion Park...


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1234571d84.jpg



BEagle 25th Jul 2023 11:14


Focke-Wulf Fw 190D-9?
Nope. Close though.....LATER!

69 built, but only 1 still exists.

D26 26th Jul 2023 07:39

That would be the sole remaining TA 152 H-0/R11.

BEagle 26th Jul 2023 19:10

CORRECT!! Well done!!

Fabulous aeroplane it was too - fortunately too late in the war to be a significant problem for the Allies.

D26, You have control!

D26 27th Jul 2023 06:52

Thanks BEagle! Now this one:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....069019cc11.jpg

asw28-866 29th Jul 2023 00:40

Bit quiet in here:

Morane-Saulnier M.S.406

Perhaps?

Asw28

D26 29th Jul 2023 08:19

Very close, but there is room for refinement.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50a4b60584.jpg

D26 31st Jul 2023 19:25

Any takers out there? Now the full picture.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d45221c2eb.jpg

sycamore 31st Jul 2023 19:54

Schlepp..?

D26 31st Jul 2023 20:00

No. There is a gun sight! The type was the main stay during WW2 in a small country. The Schlepp was a different A/c but same engine.

CoodaShooda 1st Aug 2023 01:41

MS -410?

Noyade 1st Aug 2023 06:22

Swiss EKW D-3801? (M.S 412)



D26 2nd Aug 2023 07:43

The EKW D-3801 it is!
The type was the mainstay of the Swiss Air Force in WW2 together with the Me109E. The D-3801 was licence built from the MS 406 and developed further mainly by installing a 1000 hp engine instead of the 860 HP one. Further development did not come forward as after the war, Switzerland bought 130 P-51D's surplus in Germany. Only a few years later the jet age started, as Switzerland went to buy De Havilland DH 100 Vampires. etc...

The pictures are from the sole airworthy D-3801 HB-RCF (J-143) operated in Switzerland. The owners went to great lengths to have the cockpit as original as possible. Beside a modern radio and transponder only the altimeter and the g-meter are modern, all other stuff is WW2. The picture Noyade has published, is from some years back.

In this case, Noyade has the lead!

Self loading bear 2nd Aug 2023 20:16

D26,
It was perhaps better if you would have blotted out the registration number in the second photo.
Much people are tempted to google it.

Noyade 2nd Aug 2023 21:20

Thanks D26 - but please give control to asw28-866

D26 3rd Aug 2023 07:35

You are right SLB, that's an easy way to go. I did blot out the call-sign on the two b/w pictures but didn't get reactions. I will think of that on my next post.
Thanks Noyade, very generous.

Then: control has asw28-866!

D26 5th Aug 2023 08:17

May I suggest that we resume the usual business please?

asw28-866 has control!

asw28-866 11th Aug 2023 11:05

Apologies all, I missed the fact control had returned to me. Thank you D26 for the prompt, a quick one I suspect...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e9a0eb11fa.jpg

asw28-866 12th Aug 2023 00:32

Another view, first image posted I suspect is accidentally reversed, I believe this to be correct canopy orientation...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....31d7a14eea.jpg

Asturias56 12th Aug 2023 07:26

Is it a Fournier?

asw28-866 12th Aug 2023 07:37

Not a Rene Fournier design, though contemporary with some of his best known marks.

Asturias56 12th Aug 2023 11:58

Is it European?


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