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Asturias56 11th Jan 2024 07:41

You're too generous ;) - that makes it a Piper J-4 I think - the side by side version of the Cub?

Open House if correct - I'm still searching grotty Russian videos

Noyade 11th Jan 2024 20:14

Yes, you have it A56. :ok:
Period instrument panel of the Piper J-4 Cub Coupe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_J-4

A56 has declare Open House.


meleagertoo 12th Jan 2024 12:20

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5a88dee2e7.png

sycamore 12th Jan 2024 12:28

Hovercraft,or Ekranoplane...?

meleagertoo 12th Jan 2024 14:13

Neither.

Asturias56 12th Jan 2024 15:16

Doesn't look like a bomber - not much in the way of comms or engine instruments etc - maybe a radio operator and a flight engineer on board? I'd guess post war and maybe 4 engined looking at the overhead controls - but that's a lot of aircarft.......................

sycamore 12th Jan 2024 15:26

Airship then...?

meleagertoo 12th Jan 2024 21:37

I too have no idea about those weird controls but aeroplane it is,

Asturias56 13th Jan 2024 08:21

I'd guess it s something that of which few were built - if it was something from Douglas, Lockheed or Bristol someone would have recognised it.

Is it American?>

Self loading bear 13th Jan 2024 10:22

Big guess
TU -70 or Tu-75?

meleagertoo 13th Jan 2024 12:37

Neither American nor Russian

Just found this clearer pic which makes the controls look even weirder! That's how you steer a buldozer which may be relevant as this thing evidently flew like one.
How they actually worked is anyone's guess.
9 built


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2139b5e04e.png

Asturias56 13th Jan 2024 13:23

Not American , not Russian and if it was British someone would have got in fby now. So .... French?

Asturias56 13th Jan 2024 13:27

Actually the clue is there - top left F-BAVE - which Google tells me is an Sud SE 2010 -Armagnac

here is F-BAVH​​​​​​​

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ec0b2caa03.jpg

meleagertoo 13th Jan 2024 13:43

D'uh oh! Silly me, that one might have run for a while had I not been asleep!

Asturias is in control.

Asturias56 13th Jan 2024 16:00

embarrassingly I'd loaded it into the magic software and was playing about enlarging, edge finding etc etc when by accident I panned to the top left................... :ugh:
You're right - I'd never heard of it - looked good but as you say a dog.

Try this

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....59cd440d91.jpg

Asturias56 15th Jan 2024 08:49

Lots of these built - in fact I have my doubts that any two now have the same panel

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f642c5f65.jpg



Asturias56 19th Jan 2024 07:31

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87c2494e46.jpg

meleagertoo 19th Jan 2024 11:21

N7943Y

Asturias56 19th Jan 2024 11:52

correct

and that is a ????????

but how did you get the registration? I thought I'd cropped it out:(

meleagertoo 20th Jan 2024 14:24

Its a Piper PA30 Twin Commanche.

The reg isn't visible in your pic but I did a search for light aircraft control yokes and found a loop-style one as in your 15th Jan post for sale which was identified as from Piper, Grumman or somethiing else I forget. So I searched for Piper control yokes and found the pic of the more modern one, matched the layout and decals, then realised the hand and the Cessna in the background were the same, and finally spotted the reg!

Anyhoo, here's an old favourite of mine.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5951db487c.png

Asturias56 20th Jan 2024 17:55

Yes - I think there are several hundred still flying - and just about everyone has different sets of instruments

The yoke - something else to cut out of the picture in the future!

Is the challenge American?

meleagertoo 20th Jan 2024 20:19

Certainly is.

please don’t cut out the yokes, they’re sometimes a useful pointer but seldom a giveaway. In this case it was quite a search and but for the yoke I wouldn’t even have tried the challenge as there was nothing else to go on.

Asturias56 21st Jan 2024 08:18

Not many questions were asked. - that would have narrowed the search down a bit.

as in - is the challenge single engined?

meleagertoo 21st Jan 2024 13:28

This challenge is far from single engined...

Asturias56 22nd Jan 2024 07:57

American??

meleagertoo 22nd Jan 2024 12:04

Not American either

Asturias56 23rd Jan 2024 08:05


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11580445)
This challenge is far from single engined...

four engines?

meleagertoo 23rd Jan 2024 09:46

Oh dear - senility seems to have struck, I do apologise. I have been referring to a different pic to the one I posted!

To set the record straight it is American and it is single engined.

Oops!

Asturias56 23rd Jan 2024 11:41

Ahhh that does help!

Asturias56 26th Jan 2024 08:16

think we need another picture

meleagertoo 27th Jan 2024 12:05

This is another type with various styles of panel.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dd483e9a28.png

Asturias56 27th Jan 2024 15:10

Ah - I've seen that 6 pack bottom right somewhere before - and the lights are some sort of boost indication I think when I enlarge & enhance the image

is this a helicopter??

meleagertoo 27th Jan 2024 16:29

Certainly no boost on this one, and the six pack looks all but identical to the five-pack on your recent PA30.
The twin-tacho is the dead give-eway that its a helo.

Asturias56 27th Jan 2024 17:04

sorry I was referring to the set of 6 small gauges on the right

the yellow and green lights seem to have the words BOOST PRESS. and LOW and NORMAL when I invert the image and sharpen it in some image software...............

I guess its civilian not military?

meleagertoo 28th Jan 2024 12:35

The engine is fuel injected. Boost lights indicate normal and abnormal fuel pressure.
There is a manifold pressure gauge on the panel, this variant is not supercharged.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....253bba2098.png

Asturias56 31st Jan 2024 08:34

Searching small US helicopter images it might be an Enstrom F28?

Haven't seen one in years................

meleagertoo 31st Jan 2024 12:59

OK, I'll give you that though it's rather un-specific - as you have the info to give the full description.
Being non-supercharged it's a F28a. No other Enstrom panel looked remotely like this one.
Bloody good helicopters too.

Asturias56 31st Jan 2024 13:46

Not a helicopter expert tbh - I always try and avoid them if possible - ;)

Nothing to hand - so Open House

Noyade 1st Feb 2024 05:30

Apologies for centre-fold.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0fefed3511.jpg

meleagertoo 1st Feb 2024 13:03

Яковлев Як-38?


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