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Asturias56 7th Apr 2023 08:07

not very modern dash.........................

looks like a 1950's design to me

meleagertoo 7th Apr 2023 10:47

I'll accept two models, one a later derivative of the other as they seem all but identical internally, so;
I42, no/no
Asturias, yes

Asturias56 9th Apr 2023 07:49

Not Polish - but is it East European? I don't think it's Russian but Sycamore is right I think - it has that blue shade on the dash

meleagertoo 9th Apr 2023 09:35

That double raised panel is typical Soviet bloc style and it isn't Russian so yes, Sycamore is in the right ball-park.
There really wasn't much Civil aviation going on in that part of the world at the time hence the (almost exclusive) military usage at home but upon retirement a number of this model made it to the US & Canada where its abilities were evidently appreciated.

Asturias56 9th Apr 2023 09:45

Ok - Not Russian or Polish - so Czech, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Hungary, E German, ?Albanian? (I wouldn't put anything past people on here)

'nuff there to keep us busy for a few hours :bored:

meleagertoo 9th Apr 2023 10:06

I'll give you a break...not Albanian!
Lycoming powered.

teusje 9th Apr 2023 16:00

UTVA-60 or UTVA-66

Asturias56 9th Apr 2023 16:46


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11417081)
I'll give you a break...not Albanian!
Lycoming powered.

What a gentleman! ;)

meleagertoo 9th Apr 2023 20:52

Teusje has it, UYVA 66
A very capable utility Eastern bloc STOL machine on wheels, skis or floats. The big supercharged Lycoming scoffed fuel but it was an impressive rugged piece of kit. A sort of Soviet Helio Courier.

teusje 10th Apr 2023 08:35

Thank you Mel.
This should be easy enough, I think.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f4b4d793c.png

Asturias56 10th Apr 2023 08:54

ahh - there's a picture on page 62 of this months Flying magazine that look very similar (but its not identical) - the magazine one has a major electronic upgrade - came in the post on Thursday.

I shall sit this one out

Asturias56 10th Apr 2023 14:11

The high dash line came in for specific comment relating to the pilot's view compared with another aircraft they were featuring

BEagle 10th Apr 2023 15:38

Ah - one of the 'fin on backwards' aeroplanes!

meleagertoo 10th Apr 2023 17:30

Mooney M20J

teusje 11th Apr 2023 09:00

Well M20K to be exact, but close enough.
So it's back to you, Mel.

meleagertoo 11th Apr 2023 10:50

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9c8eebe8d5.png

BEagle 11th Apr 2023 14:06

Zwischen ein Beech und ein Voodoo!

meleagertoo 11th Apr 2023 14:58

I'm afraid that went right over my head.

BEagle 11th Apr 2023 21:57

Written in German.

Between a Beech (99) and a Voodoo (101).

So a German aircraft with '100' in its title!

He he!!

meleagertoo 11th Apr 2023 22:52

Ah!
Well, that didn't last long. Heinkel He100

Beagle, all yours -

BEagle 11th Apr 2023 23:39

OK!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1aa6039d82.jpg

dixi188 12th Apr 2023 08:47

Point of order Mr Chairman.
What happened to the 24 hour rule?

Asturias56 12th Apr 2023 09:12

Good point - someone is likely to get banned if the mods wake up. (having served two bans for infringing the rule I speak from experience).

BEagle 12th Apr 2023 10:14

If you're referring to me, all I did was to give some clues that others might follow!

I didn't actually say "It's an He-100"!

Asturias56 12th Apr 2023 15:10

It s not you who is in danger its meleagerto - he's supposed to wait 24 hours before confirming you were right.

It seems the wrong way round to many of us as once someone has identified the challenge time isn't important - they're first in the line anyway. What it should be (IMHO) is a 24 hour gap before declaring open house or posting a new challenge. The original problem was someone who just posted every hour and no-one else got a look in

BEagle 13th Apr 2023 08:11

Neither British nor American....

Asturias56 14th Apr 2023 07:51

Looking closely and blowing the picture up there's a bloody great quadrant on the LHS - with a handle. That's clearly the main use of the pilots left hand at some point whilst he flies the plane with his right. Something important is being rotated methinks.

Much of yesterday was spent looking at swing wings and rotating wings a la Osprey and rotating engines or nozzles - its not a UK or USA, doesn't look Russian, I don' think the French rotated anything but the Germans did

Thus I meandered to the VJ101 - I can remember some early footage way back.


sycamore 14th Apr 2023 08:03

EWR VJ-101 X1,First VTOL jet to fly supersonically,6 engines....
OH if correct....

Dammit,beaten by Ast56....

safetypee 14th Apr 2023 08:10

VFW VAK 191B as an alternative

BEagle 14th Apr 2023 08:47

It is indeed the VJ-101.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ffcd827937.jpg


Asturias56, you have control!

Asturias56 15th Apr 2023 12:16

Open house I'm afraid

Noyade 15th Apr 2023 21:55

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....862cd53b7f.jpg

Asturias56 16th Apr 2023 07:53

looks like N America - - lot of glass around that cockpit Noyade - hope they had a/c!


Noyade 17th Apr 2023 02:40

Rather sleek looking machine. First flight in early 1988 - says Wikipedia.

Noyade 17th Apr 2023 02:46

Sorry, A56 - Yes, from the US of A.

Asturias56 17th Apr 2023 07:11

Mooney M10 Cadet?

Noyade 18th Apr 2023 06:39


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11421163)
Mooney M10 Cadet?

Not a Mooney.
Bigger.
Faster.
Wiki says "about" 13 built.

Pusher prop.

Noyade 18th Apr 2023 23:06

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03c4a67354.jpg

Asturias56 19th Apr 2023 07:41

Cirrus VK30 I think

"As a kit aircraft, the VK-30 is a relatively obscure design with few completed aircraft flying. Its most important legacy is that the work done on developing and marketing the aircraft convinced the designers, the Klapmeier brothers, that the best way to proceed in the future was with a more conventional layout and with a certified production aircraft. Thus the lessons of the VK-30 were directly responsible for the design of the Cirrus SR20 and SR22, "

Noyade 19th Apr 2023 13:18

Over to you. :)


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