Close but no banana.

Ghee-never knew Luciele had an aircraft

You picked a fine time to tell me that, Bear.

Attempting to follow the clues above - Michel Colomban's Luciole?
If correct - control should go to you, Bear. :D

G-LUCL
Was the cockpit on the second photo.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2584d1390.jpeg

Startling performance from a 24Hp Briggs and Stratton! 90mph cruise, range over 300 miles, airframe weighs just 100Kg dry, 300Kg MAUW.

Bear has control.

Thanks Mel (and Noyade),

This aircraft is not known for its cockpit.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3ce1b1d1b.jpeg

that looks Russian blue to me

To me it is Russian green.

Agreed that's Russian or Soviet bloc.
It's a big heavy single piston I think, An2 era.

Soviet block indeed
single piston yes
But not a heavy one
And certainly later then An2
2 built 1 flew

That tidy cockpit would run rings around an AN2

I'm out of ideas.

I think its the Narushevich OW-1 - a truly weird design

I finished up from "Russian Experimental aircraft" to "cool weird planes" on Google and looked at some seriously odd aircraft on the way............

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....530b3261b4.jpg


OH if correct

Indeed the Narushevich OW-1 from Belarus.

It seems this orange one did never fly.
There is a YouTube film with the other one taking off.
Not very convincing.

OH called
May I call UV to come up with something?
You clearly knew.

Sorry nothing to offer at the moment, so OH please.

When I saw the cockpit picture, I immediately imagined this exchange:

Test pilot: “The ailerons are too heavy.”
Designer: “No problem. We’ll make the yoke wider. “

After seeing that monstrosity, I wonder if I was close to the truth! 😂

Hence my remark about it being a 'heavy'.

And what a ghastly looking yoke arrangement with all those cables, pulleys, linkages and such. How clumsy can it get?

Eeeuwww! I feel for the test pilots of that monstrosity.

This one won no prizes fpr looks either.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c79177d683.png

Yuropean?

Indeed.

Blowing up the picture it looks like it's maybe a twin jet of some sort (tho only a basic set of dials)

the total lack of design ergonomics suggests pre-1955?

Both correct.
Only two built.
Unusual configuration.

Ahhh - now THAT helps!

SNCASE Grognard - quite unusual!!

You never cease to astound me!
How the digamma did you ever get that?
Correct of course, the French - configuration at least - comparison to the Lightining, but as ever if it was said if it looks right....this one wasn't a contender.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....30469ff2be.png
Talk about the Hunchback but please not on my patch!

And whatever was it about with those enormous wheels?

It was European and I was pretty sure it wasn't British - it didn't look Russian or E European. Which left France, maybe Italy or Sweden as the Spanish couldn't source anything like that from the UK or USA until the '60's

It was a twin jet (which was unusual pre 1955) and it was "Unconventional" - so Sweden or France. They built 2 (that was a major help!). Lots of scouring of old books and the internet but once I saw the picture it was easy to find a picture of the cockpit - and that awful handwheel on the port side of the cockpit = BINGO!

https://www.militaryfactory.com/airc...rcraft_id=1498 is a good source for the program

bit of a dog but tested a lot of future technology

OH I'm afraid!

"The cockpit did away with a traditional control column and flightstick, "elbow controling" being used to free up forward vision."

I wish they'd elaborate on that - I can't find any info on it at all. Sounds fascinating.

maybe those two funnelly looking devices like speaking tubes to the left of THE WHEEL - looks like you could press your elbow into one or the other

Think it is a sidestick and armrest inboard of the wheel,and possibly another on right side..

More armrests...


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8478aaa08f.jpg

I think it is this one.
But cockpit side doesn’t match

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4bc013e00.jpeg

Hi Bear. I believe it is what you think it is - name it and it's all yours. :ok:
My forward shot...


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bc18744df6.png

Few more clues then.
Wiki says 580 built.
Underpowered and unpopular.

Looks like a Blenheim - but not sure what Mark

I would have guessed a Blenheim, but given the comments in 3233 it is a Botha.

Test pilot report - this a/c is very difficult to get into, and it should have been made impossible.

No pictures to post myself so open house.

Botha it is.
We have Open House.

A long way from the Botha in almost all respects:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f35cc2438.jpeg

General Aircraft Hamilcar?

And even I didn’t recognize it
https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...l#post11038144

Open House if I’m correct please.