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SincoTC 12th Oct 2019 18:25


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10592623)
I might have misread Deja Vue, or have they got it wrong

IMHO, I think that the problem with some Deja Vue pages is that they quote contemporary articles from Flight Magazine exactly as they were written at the time, sometimes describing ideas or things that didn't get beyond the design stage and in the case of the ADC-1 they were over optimistic on the prospect of Foreign sales potential and probably being led on by and anxious Liquidator, so the story often differs from more accurate accounts written years later with the benefit of hindsight, like the info I quoted from Aviastar :)

Looking at flying-cars, not having much luck trying to match the glimpse of windshield framing so far, the Fulton Airphibian looks good externally, but views of the panel and controls aren't convincing, but there may have been variations?

If not that, is it from the USA, 1940's - 50's?

dook 12th Oct 2019 18:57

It's from the USA, flew 1946 it seems.

Continental A-40.

SincoTC 12th Oct 2019 20:08

Is it listed in Aerofiles?

Or Wikipedia

Self loading bear 12th Oct 2019 20:12

Airphibian by Fulton?
no cockpit photo found (yet)

dook 12th Oct 2019 20:28

TC - I'll check.

Bear - sorry no.

dook 12th Oct 2019 20:34

It's listed on https://wiki2.org/en/List_of_aircraft

End of alphabet.....

Also in Aerofiles.

dook 12th Oct 2019 21:44

Does anyone require another clue ?

dook 12th Oct 2019 21:52

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....056b9105c7.jpg

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 08:33

Morning dook,

I saw that image above in one of my earlier searches but dismissed it because the front windshield on your cockpit appears to have at least two (perhaps four) diagonal glazing bars, but in this image it appears to be clear :confused:

Now, I'm having a bad day and can't find it in Aerofiles!! Is it just an image file on their Pix Picker page or does the aircraft have a proper entry and if so does it show engine details or a Code?

Last night I tried all sorts of searches on the engine, year, pusher, folding-wings, let alone flying-car or roadable, probably my bad, but AF search just ain't working for me like it usually does :O

dook 13th Oct 2019 08:41

The image from Aerofiles is an artists' drawing.

Open the link I posted above and look under Z.
It is there I assure you.

It has a floating, or pivotal, wing.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 09:05


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10593203)
The image from Aerofiles is an artists' drawing.

Open the link I posted above and look under Z.
It is there I assure you.

It has a floating, or pivotal, wing.

Thanks dook, 'Tiz the Zuck-Whitaker Plane-Mobile innit !! dunno why my searches let me down last night before your piccie, all the words were there apart from the year as 1946!!

To make matters worse, I'm ashamed to say that I now recall that I used that artists image some while ago in another place!! :O

dook 13th Oct 2019 09:14

At last !!

It is indeed the Zuck Plane-Mobile - well done. :D

Lights, music, curtain - you're on.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 09:46

Thanks dook, that was a tantalising one!

Another artists impression/

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a297b2f1c5.jpg

dook 13th Oct 2019 10:05

Blimey !!

Something from Heath Robinson if you ask me !

That can't be an aeroplane but something quite devious.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 10:25


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10593252)
Blimey !!

Something from Heath Robinson if you ask me !

That can't be an aeroplane but something quite devious.

Not too devious I hope and not by Heat Robinso! , A fairly conventional two-seat wooden biplane, cranky it is, but that's for for starting the engine :)

dook 13th Oct 2019 10:28

I was wondering where the rubber band was !

Initial search gives hundreds of bloody bicycles.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 10:36


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10593276)
I was wondering where the rubber band was !

Initial search gives hundreds of bloody bicycles.

Not a rubber band mate, it had a 100 hp ten cylinder Radial engine!

Sorry about the bikes!! :E

dook 13th Oct 2019 10:40

Ten cylinder radials are rare.

I can think of an Anzani.

Is it a Caudron ?

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 10:48


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10593287)
Ten cylinder radials are rare.

I can think of an Anzani.

Is it a Caudron ?

Indeed they are rare and did wonder about disclosing that, but I'm not that wicked! It is an Anzani, but not in a Caudron

dook 13th Oct 2019 10:52

Might well be a British aeroplane then.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 10:58

Correct, it is British!

dook 13th Oct 2019 11:19

Because of the booms, I don't think it was possible to hand swing a Vickers FB-12.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 11:27

That makes sense, but it's not a Vickers FB-12

dook 13th Oct 2019 11:30

Was it a one-off ?

JENKINS 13th Oct 2019 11:44

Limited illustration, front or rear cockpit. Perhaps a very limited, I.e. one-off and short lived, Handley Page Type G.

Crossed with Dook.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 11:51

Hi Guys,

I believe it must be the front cockpit because it was a tractor type, there were eight built with some variations, I believe this one was a floatplane which I guess would make it difficult to swing a prop!

dook 13th Oct 2019 11:53

A Blackburn ?

Possibly a Sopwith HT.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 12:02


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10593343)
A Blackburn ?

Possibly a Sopwith HT.

Nope to both!

JENKINS 13th Oct 2019 12:35

Quite long-lived, a Centaur? Central Aircraft Company, an inspiring name.

Self loading bear 13th Oct 2019 12:39

I already goggled centaur cockpit
but I toppled over and drowned in the many sailboats!

JENKINS 13th Oct 2019 12:46

Dinghies and yachts in UK! Ho-ho.

dook 13th Oct 2019 13:18

Civil or military ?

Is it in AF ?

A Shorts design maybe.

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 13:54


Originally Posted by JENKINS (Post 10593367)
Quite long-lived, a Centaur? Central Aircraft Company, an inspiring name.

That's the one, in fact a Central Centaur IV B, as you say they were quite long lived as some were sold to Belgium and the last one survived until 1938!

My illustration was from the Fright Archive when they visited the Aero Show at Olympia in early 1920! The sketch depicts the fifth aircraft which was fitted with a three-float undercarriage. It was used for a week giving joyrides at Southend-on-Sea. It was converted into a landplane later in 1920 and crashed in October 1920.

JENKINS has Ccontrol :ok:

JENKINS 13th Oct 2019 14:30

Yes, at one time I did stutter, and even now I am aware that hesitation lies beneath some of my conversation. 'Sir Francis Chichester' proved difficult many years ago, and the chum who ribs me, ever so gently, is once again feeling the failures of Scottish rugby.

But back to the present. The number 8 gave away the Centaur. I fear I have nowt, am away from machine for long time, and must declare Open House.

dook 13th Oct 2019 15:00

Not a good day for me so far. :{

dook 13th Oct 2019 15:32

Far too quiet.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....20ceed8feb.jpg

SincoTC 13th Oct 2019 16:07

British?

Landplane or seaplane/flying-boat?

dook 13th Oct 2019 16:11

'artnoon TC.

Landplane not British.

Self loading bear 13th Oct 2019 16:32

There are much better color photos available on the net.

dook 13th Oct 2019 16:34

There usually are.


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