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sycamore 11th Oct 2019 11:10

dook,#678 would get you the `AOC carpet shuffle` these days...!!
Aircraft is FU-25 Fletcher Defender,brother of the FU-24 cropsprayer,later becoming pac-750......OH if correct...

Nowadays ,you`d buy an AT-8O2 for the COIN job

dook 11th Oct 2019 12:23

The Fletcher Defender it is. :ok:

sycamore has called OH.

sycamore 11th Oct 2019 14:47

Something for a dull wet Friday....
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dfcf2c3c6e.jpg

dook 11th Oct 2019 14:55

Label above throttle/rpm is in French so is it French ?

sycamore 11th Oct 2019 15:08

Was F-Reg but not French....

dook 11th Oct 2019 15:17

I've found a pic of the throttle/rpm lever which are in a Zlin.

dook 11th Oct 2019 15:21

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8a7ff12a52.png

Caption says it's a Trener Master.

sycamore 11th Oct 2019 15:47

My pic is a Z-326 ;no RPM control,it`s mixture,fixed pitch wooden prop,;your pic is rear cockpit of -326....
Z526 has metal automatic CSU prop,and solo flown from rear cockpit for CoG reasons...all switchery in back cockpit..
Go ,tighten yr neg.G strap right up,and have a workout...!

and the mags were left ON in the rear....!!!!

dook 11th Oct 2019 15:59

No workout - I'm president of the World Anti-Jockstrapping Society.

Got large Rolls Royce of single malts in hand at the moment.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1d640698e4.jpg

sycamore 11th Oct 2019 16:26

Could be Fairey Battle....?

dook 11th Oct 2019 16:28

Sorry - no cigar as they say…...

dook 11th Oct 2019 16:41

You are close though.

JENKINS 11th Oct 2019 18:00

Close enough to be a Fulmar?

dook 11th Oct 2019 18:04

Close enough to be a Fulmar indeed.

Your strap in.

JENKINS 11th Oct 2019 18:18

Thanks, sufficiently different from a Firefly. On the road all day tomorrow, so cannot play. Anyone else for an Open House?

Self loading bear 11th Oct 2019 20:08


dook 11th Oct 2019 20:24

Knowing you, it's probably Dutch.

India Four Two 11th Oct 2019 20:27

It has that famous "Mig clock", so is it Russian?

dook 11th Oct 2019 20:31

Supercharged ?

It look like the tubular frame structure should be covered, so is it some kind of restoration ?

SincoTC 11th Oct 2019 20:40


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10592283)
Supercharged ?

It look like the tubular frame structure should be covered, so is it some kind of restoration ?

dook just beat me to it, it looks like a WWII airframe, but the photo is modern and if you look in the background there's a vice on a workbench, so I agree that it's likely underr restoration somewhere and going by bear's recent posts, it's probably a Dutch aircraft in a museum in the Netherlands :8

It doesn't look like a furniture factory in the background so I don't think it's a Pander!! :)

How about a Fokker?

India Four Two 11th Oct 2019 20:40


Supercharged ?
... and near sea-level?

dook 11th Oct 2019 20:46

I'm also intrigued by all the switches on the right.

A weapons panel ?

Self loading bear 11th Oct 2019 20:54


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8a1119b31.jpeg
It is a replica/reproduction
The replica is being build in the Netherlands

SincoTC 11th Oct 2019 20:56

I just followed up my own questions and goggled WWII Fokker Fighter under restoration and found this very interesting video

Fokker D.XXI Fighter Replica to Fly in 2020 | Warbirds News

Edited to say that there are two videos on my link, both very interesting!

Dunno if it's the same one as bear's but it sure looks similar, if so it's a Fokker D.XXI ?

India Four Two 11th Oct 2019 21:02

The altimeter looks like it is in feet, the ASI in km/hour and the turn and slip is very unusual.

PS The panel looks the same in SincoTC's video at 2:13

dook 11th Oct 2019 21:08

Just call TC Sherlock.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b291f0605c.jpg

Self loading bear 11th Oct 2019 21:15

TC nails it!
Thanks for the video link.
I found the photos on Aironline.nl
All the meters are unused originals found in England.
The Wright cyclone is a crate engine!
The Spanish D.XXI’s were designed with a Wright cyclone.
I wonder if I should have started with this one:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....424de789e.jpeg
The wreck of the original number 229

SincoTC 11th Oct 2019 21:40

Thank you bear, a very good and interesting Challenge :ok:

In case anybody missed the edit to my link above, it actually contains two very interesting videos..

All brilliant and highly detailed, but one shot that I did find a little disturbing showed two people working on a cylinder assembly, however, they were using the upper surface of their brand new wing as a workbench!!! True the engine is a new crate unit and so is not dripping nasty black oil, but even clean lube will make a nasty stain on that beautiful pristine plywood skin!! :ugh:

Congratulations to Jack van Egmond and his Grandson Tom who started building the replica in 2014 and the ATN team who finished it and look forward to see it take to the the air next year!

Here's my next cockpit to find:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b5f2b23686.jpg

dook 12th Oct 2019 09:37

Morning TC.

I see struts and what I think are two guns in front of the cockpit which might be Vickers.

I thus think it's a biplane fighter from WW1.

British ?

SincoTC 12th Oct 2019 09:52

Morning dook,


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10592548)
Morning TC.

I see struts and what I think are two guns in front of the cockpit which might be Vickers.

I thus think it's a biplane fighter from WW1.

British ?

Your eyes don't deceive you, it is a biplane fighter and those are Vickers .303 Machine guns!

Although its direct ancestry goes back to WWI, this particular development is from between the wars!

It was British

dook 12th Oct 2019 10:38

Deja Vue .

Martinsyde Buzzard.

SincoTC 12th Oct 2019 10:49


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10592583)
Deja Vue .

Martinsyde Buzzard.

My source was the FA, but as usual it is in Deja Vue, but it's not a Buzzard as built for the war, this one was later and had a radial engine!

dook 12th Oct 2019 10:52

Must be the Nimbus then.

err....no.

If it's a Jaguar radial might it be the ADC-1 ?

SincoTC 12th Oct 2019 11:08


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10592598)
Must be the Nimbus then.

err....no.

If it's a Jaguar radial might it be the ADC-1 ?

Not might be mate! it is indeed the ADC-1

With the liquidation of the Martinsyde Company in February 1924 and the acquisition of its stores, stocks and goodwill by the Aircraft Disposal Company, it was fundamentally an F.4 Buzzard airframe mated with a 380hp Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar radial engine. The prototype A.D.C.1 was first flown on 11 October 1924, this subsequently participating in the 1925 and 1926 King's Cup races, and considerable foreign interest was displayed in the type. In the event, only one order for the A.D.C.1 materialised, this being from Latvia for eight aircraft which were delivered in 1926, at least two of these surviving until 1938.

dook has control :ok:

dook 12th Oct 2019 11:21

I might have misread Deja Vue, or have they got it wrong.

Anyway,


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9775e69740.jpg

kenparry 12th Oct 2019 13:33

Looks more like car than an aeroplane. 1935 Ford 10?

dook 12th Oct 2019 13:58

There's a good reason it looks like a car.

It's not a Ford.

kenparry 12th Oct 2019 15:21

dook, I was being facetious, as you probably knew. However...……… is it one of the attempts at a flying car?

kenparry 12th Oct 2019 15:28

Taylor Aerocar?

dook 12th Oct 2019 15:54

It is indeed a flying car, but not a Taylor.

It should now not be too difficult to find.


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