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dook 10th Oct 2018 18:19

The person who has set the challenge seems to have lost interest, which is probably why everyone else has.

Russell Gulch 25th Sep 2019 16:44

No posts for almost a year, so just for fun (!), here's another cockpit. (Some clues: this craft has only 300 hours airborne quite a long time ago; three jet engines of which only one remains attached).


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f655ce09ac.jpg

dook 25th Sep 2019 16:58

Three jet engines ?

Wossa four levers ?

Glevum 25th Sep 2019 17:31

Is it RTV 31?

dook 25th Sep 2019 18:04

Wasn't that magnetic drive ?

dook 25th Sep 2019 18:16

Hovercraft ?

Russell Gulch 25th Sep 2019 21:46

None of the above are quite correct, but Glevum is closest. Again, this is just for fun.
Another clue: This is the last example extant.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....381040700a.jpg
Russ


India Four Two 25th Sep 2019 22:35

Well done Russell. I was just thinking we hadn’t seen any cockpits for a while.

No clue about your challenge, though.

Self loading bear 25th Sep 2019 22:50

LIMRV
LIMRV

Russell Gulch 26th Sep 2019 00:56

Self loading bear has it. :ok: This and two other high-speed train types are the last remaining examples from '70s tests. They are at the
Pueblo Railroad Museum


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e0a0240c47.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6875f8b49b.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d4f2d118eb.jpg
I hope everyone forgives the non-aviation element! SLB has control.

Self loading bear 26th Sep 2019 23:26

Thanks Russel,
after the others showed me the way it was only a quick google.
Quite cryptic about 2 out of 3 engines falling away. But completely correct!
The third being the original first engine only installed as generator .

I have something appropriate stored on my computer which i can only access tomorrow.
But i think the pace of this thread will allow this delay?

BSD 27th Sep 2019 16:34

Fantastic to see this thread re-awakening.

This, “what Aerodrome?” And the Luton Airport thread are the best.

Now, if I was clever enough to find and post some cockpit pics, I would.

long live “what cockpit!”

BSD.

dook 27th Sep 2019 16:38

Have a go at the Which Aerodrome challenge then.

Self loading bear 27th Sep 2019 17:46

Here it is
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5ae7e73d12.jpg

dook 27th Sep 2019 19:56

Perhaps a BFW M.21

Self loading bear 27th Sep 2019 21:12

Same era but this aircraft has been produced in far greater numbers (17 instead of 2)

SincoTC 27th Sep 2019 22:50

That looks like a Walter NZ 60 up front, so could it be a Pander EC ??

Self loading bear 27th Sep 2019 23:05

Tinco,
Very well spotted.
Pander E or EC
1 is being reproduced in the Netherlands at the moment.
A Pander Walter engine has been given to the Aviodrome museum.
Tinco at the controls.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....564f3c152.jpeg

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 00:12

Thanks SLB,

A good challenge! :ok: The number produced was a help, but I discounted the prototype model E because Wiki says that had an Anzani Six cylinder radial :8

I know this one has appeared on What Cockpit, but well over a decade ago and I'm not sure if it was this image as the original images don't seem to be available now, so let's give it another try :)

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4e99a07123.jpg

dook 28th Sep 2019 09:39

Good morning TC.

You shouldn't be up so late at your age !

Was this a seaplane/flying boat ?

sycamore 28th Sep 2019 09:48

Aunty Annie...?

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 09:52

Good morning dook :ok:


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10581384)
Good morning TC.

You shouldn't be up so late at your age !

Was this a seaplane/flying boat ?

Thank you for your concern!! :p

Well spotted as usual! It was indeed a flying-boat (was it the mooring hatch and perforated floor)?

dook 28th Sep 2019 10:20

Yes - those two things led me to think flying boat.

Suspect twin-engine without variable pitch and possibly German.

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 10:32


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10581411)
Suspect twin-engine without variable pitch and possibly German.

Half correct, twin engines with plain 2-blade wooden props, but not German !!

dook 28th Sep 2019 10:46

One pusher and one puller ?

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 10:53

Both Tractor, but not without problems!

dook 28th Sep 2019 11:09

British as in SR ?

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 11:19

Yes and No!! :)

dook 28th Sep 2019 11:53

Goshawk steam-cooled engines ?

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 12:18


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10581468)
Goshawk steam-cooled engines ?

Guilty as charged!! That should narrow it down a bit :uhoh:

dook 28th Sep 2019 12:36

It might narrow it down to the Short Knucklduster.

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 13:02

No "might" about it mate! It is the Short S.18 Knuckleduster! Well done! :D

Maybe it was a bit ahead of its competitors at the time with its all metal Alclad construction and a bit of a wobbly tail at first, it was always hampered by it's unreliable Goshawk engine and had to cope with the drag of the two large "cooling towers" on each nacelle, but it paved the way for the successful Sunderland and the lessons learnt by Rolls-Royce with the Goshawk paid dividends when it came to developing the magnificent Merlin :8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Knuckleduster

dook has control :ok:

dook 28th Sep 2019 13:19

Cheers TC.

Good job I bookmarked a flying boat site from the old days on another site.

Standby for another and a PM.

dook 28th Sep 2019 13:55

Ball rolling again.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fa8bfd9fa0.jpg

SincoTC 28th Sep 2019 15:47


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10581520)
Cheers TC.

Good job I bookmarked a flying boat site from the old days on another site.

Standby for another and a PM.

Always worth keeping bookmarks, but unfortunately many are now broken :ugh:

In fact I received three identical PM messages, but maybe the new revamped site is a bit iffy in that area, it seemed like it when it wouldn't let me post, saying I wasn't logged in, despite green light on, when I obeyed and re logged in it hung up, fortunately I'd copied my reply to the clipboard, so it wasn't lost and I believe it has now gone!

Regretfully, I have to go now to a Family anniversary party!

Your new cockpit looks quite modern with some unusual features! but the fuel level indicator seems archaic!

British? American?

dook 28th Sep 2019 16:13

American and not that old in terms of flying, but the design goes back to 1960.

Self loading bear 28th Sep 2019 19:31

Is it an autogyro?

dook 28th Sep 2019 19:59

No, a fixed-wing aeroplane.

sycamore 28th Sep 2019 21:22

If you are 82 and want to do an 18 hour flight across USA,this was the machine to do it in...
Looks like it had `wet wings`,judging by the fuel cocks,and transfer arrangement,and probably 90 gals of fuel...Hope Arnold had a good `whoopee`cushion..
Ebenter E-1.....

dook 29th Sep 2019 08:31

Good morning sycamore.

A great hit with the Ebenter E-1.

Quite a piece of kit and I believe still holds the record.

Your cockpit.


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