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SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 09:08

Good morning dook,

Well that didn't last long did it :O

It is indeed the Prototype Percival Prentice from an article on its launch in the Fright Archives!

Control is yours :ok:

dook 1st Oct 2019 09:17

Cheers TC.

There were a couple of things which looked familiar to an old RAF QFI.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5b37533462.jpg

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 09:48


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10583807)
There were a couple of things which looked familiar to an old RAF QFI.

Yes, that thought did cross my mind, so I expected it to be somewhat erksome [sic]!

I'm not really a great fan of cockpits!! :O This one does look pretty old to me!

WWI ? British ?

Maybe a Fokker ??

dook 1st Oct 2019 10:06

WW1 but not British.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 10:35

Prolly didn't see my edit?

How about a Fokker? Maybe a Dr.1 ?

dook 1st Oct 2019 10:39

I did indeed miss your edit.

Well, it only lasted a little more than yours. :eek:

Fokker DR1 indeed so back to you.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 11:39


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10583869)
Well, it only lasted a little more than yours. :eek:

Thanks! Pure luck on my part I assure you :)

Try this one from a little later!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d77eed15ed.jpg

dook 1st Oct 2019 11:50

Looking at the winding jobber on the right, sliding canopy ?

Has a German look about it.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 12:22


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10583931)
Looking at the winding jobber on the right, sliding canopy ?

Has a German look about it.

Not sure about the winding thingy, 'tiz an open cockpit jobber, but it looks like my old school's pencil sharpener, text might indicate it's a manual starting magneto :confused:

It's not German though!

dook 1st Oct 2019 12:31

Heard of manual advance/retard architecture in magnetos, but not a manual starting magneto.

Probably before the advent of impulse couplings.

JENKINS 1st Oct 2019 12:34

Impulse couplings in turn superceded by the flux capacitor.

dook 1st Oct 2019 12:41

I now know what the magneto crank is and found a photograph.

Methinks the aeroplane might be French possibly a Spad, but I'm put off by the wheel.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 12:50


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10583954)
Heard of manual advance/retard architecture in magnetos, but not a manual starting magneto.

Probably before the advent of impulse couplings.

Me neither! I think it was only a non-synchronised booster, rather like a telephone ringer, but it sounds bloody dangerous if not used with some kind of wind-up starter!! :eek:

Dates from the twenties and not French

dook 1st Oct 2019 12:58

Ah - the shower of sparks.

dook 1st Oct 2019 13:18

Something from Vickers, such as the Vulcan ?

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 13:30

Not from Vickers but it is British !! :)

sycamore 1st Oct 2019 14:49

Made by Blackburn.../

dook 1st Oct 2019 14:54

Or de Havilland.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 15:01

Sycamore is on the right trail :)

dook 1st Oct 2019 15:12

T-3 Velos……?

dook 1st Oct 2019 15:19

Swift T-1/Dart

Photo from Avia Deja Vu.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 15:39


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10584083)
Swift T-1/Dart

Photo from Avia Deja Vu.

I got the photo from the Fright Archive, as do Avia Deja Vu, but that's the one! Well done :ok:

The original article from 1925 just called it the Dart Seaplane :)

Your control

dook 1st Oct 2019 15:41

The text refers to a "starting magneto".

dook 1st Oct 2019 15:44

Cheers TC.

This looks odd to me.....


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2f14c07449.jpg

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 17:19


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10584111)
Cheers TC.

This looks odd to me.....

Well, I guess it can't be a little bit pregnant can it :hmm:

Reckon it's a Boeing 377 Super Guppy innit?

dook 1st Oct 2019 17:31

Like innit wotevva.

Shoot...…..

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 17:41

Sorry this one isn't pin-sharp!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....995a138b30.jpg

dook 1st Oct 2019 17:47

I think that's an airship looking at the amount of transparent panels.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 18:50


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10584216)
I think that's an airship looking at the amount of transparent panels.

That was my first impression too,:E but it is a fixed wing jobber!


dook 1st Oct 2019 19:00

Good grief. :(

dook 1st Oct 2019 19:15

Found a better pic and the manufacturer - just looking for the model.

edit: I think the site is incorrect, but says it's a Breda.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 19:16


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10584265)
Good grief. :(

:E I think there's just about enough resolution for a bit of pattern recognition on the centre console which should help!! :)

I'm gonna be out all day tomorrow, so hopefully it'll go tonight, but carry on if you find the image or a clearer confirmatory one!

dook 1st Oct 2019 19:29

This is what I found. The text says Breda but that's all.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....27f6eadba9.jpg

dook 1st Oct 2019 19:49

Now found Breda Ba.32.

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 20:00


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10584295)
Now found Breda Ba.32.

That's it mate, well found :ok:

I found that same image in the FA, it's also on Avia Deja Vue as usual, but it was too good, so I got the less detailed image from L'Aérophile :E but you're too good for that !!

You have control

dook 1st Oct 2019 20:11

Good one.

Nuvver…


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b5a341d095.jpg

SincoTC 1st Oct 2019 20:51

Hmm, :confused: wossat vertical thingy going up through the cabin roof behind the pilot's seat ??

dook 1st Oct 2019 21:02

Wish I knew.

However, an external photo shows a roof ADF aerial on the fuselage left side, so my bet it's the base for manual rotation of the loop antenna.

dixi188 1st Oct 2019 21:15

I bet it is a "DF" and not an "ADF".

Self loading bear 1st Oct 2019 21:38

4 propeller flying boat?


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