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India Four Two 11th Jul 2021 18:56

The control columns are surprisingly tall. Are they the same in the Bulldog? I flew one once, but I don’t remember the stick geometry.

Noyade 15th Jul 2021 06:24

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....473a388640.jpg

UV 15th Jul 2021 19:10

Green = Russian?

bafanguy 15th Jul 2021 19:29


Originally Posted by UV (Post 11079321)
Green = Russian?

Or Douglas...

meleagertoo 15th Jul 2021 21:52

Sings prettily, does it?
On second thoughts those radios look entirely peaceful, so it's probably just a - well - let's just say it's a couple of digits short of its BAC counterpart, Doug?

sycamore 15th Jul 2021 22:44

An-124.......

Noyade 15th Jul 2021 23:12


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11079331)
Or Douglas...

It is..... :)

oncemorealoft 16th Jul 2021 09:19

Then it must be a DC9.

Beamr 16th Jul 2021 10:18

How about C9 nightingale?

bafanguy 16th Jul 2021 12:56


Originally Posted by oncemorealoft (Post 11079605)
Then it must be a DC9.

Hard to tell from the pic but the flap handle appears to be more MD80ish. The DC9-30 had a flap/slat handle (two components) that could be split to operate the flaps independently of the slats in abnormal conditions. OH if I guessed correctly.

You can see (sort of) in these pix:

https://www.google.com/search?q=dc9-...SEul5au1ZQMiGM


Noyade 17th Jul 2021 02:26


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11079717)
appears to be more MD80ish.

Yes, it's the 35th McDonnell Douglas MD-82 constructed in China.

The MD-82 was assembled under license in Shanghai by the Shanghai Aviation Industrial Corporation (SAIC, today's COMAC) beginning in November 1986; the sub-assemblies were delivered by McDonnell Douglas in kit form.[6][page needed]

OPEN HOUSE

oncemorealoft 17th Jul 2021 17:34

Gosh, I hadn’t realised how long ago the Chinese started making the MD82. Well done Bafanfly.

oncemorealoft 17th Jul 2021 17:37

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5cf52b697.jpeg
I’ll seize the OH if that’s OK. Just over 100 of these were made, far fewer than its predecessor.

Beamr 17th Jul 2021 18:49

The competitor for B29 :)

India Four Two 18th Jul 2021 04:05

I think Beamr has it. The B29 plus 3.

What happened to the intervening types?

oncemorealoft 18th Jul 2021 20:36

Yes it's the Consolidated B32 Dominator. Well done.

Beamr 20th Jul 2021 09:16

I currently have nothing worthy posting so OH on my behalf.

Noyade 21st Jul 2021 10:18

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d35629641e.png

Noyade 23rd Jul 2021 01:47

Moving back...


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d37795b0a2.png

American amphibian - 1928.

Noyade 24th Jul 2021 00:33

Outside...


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ca8a79084.png

Asturias56 24th Jul 2021 08:08

Now that IS ugly



Beamr 24th Jul 2021 08:15

My eyes, my eyes! That Loening C2 designer must've had some strange mushrooms...

Noyade 24th Jul 2021 23:43

Leoning C-2H - apparently one of two for the US Navy - XHL-1.
Over you Beamr. :ok:

Beamr 25th Jul 2021 03:11

Have a go on this one:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....01ed8943ad.jpg

sycamore 25th Jul 2021 12:01

C-82/C-119...?

Beamr 25th Jul 2021 18:28

Neither, sorry.

Hint: These had been modified to fully pressurized fuselage.

Allan Lupton 25th Jul 2021 19:17


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11084839)
Neither, sorry.

Hint: These had been modified to fully pressurized fuselage.

Does that make it a Canadair 4?

sycamore 25th Jul 2021 21:56

Looks to me to be a twin.....

Beamr 26th Jul 2021 04:48

Yes, it's a twin. The Canadair is a tad too big, these were intended as exec transports, hence the fully pressurized fuselage was done. The modification included DC-6 flat windows in the cockpit.
On a side note: the DC6 seems to have been a popular organ donor for multitude of projects, this had many parts from a six as did the Canadair!

Noyade 26th Jul 2021 05:21

On Mark Marksman?

Beamr 26th Jul 2021 08:20


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11085006)
On Mark Marksman?

well done! The changes are quite massive as originally these were A26 Invaders. Only 8 conversions made, of which two were delivered to Air America, of which only one saw any action in SE Asia. Apparently it was more often misidentified on the ground as an armed military aircraft causing missions to fail. As the fuselage was pressurized, they changed longer nose on to it to create luggage compartment.

Heres a few pics inside. And a pic of one that still exists in somewhat poor condition, but shows the modifications from Invader rather well.

Noyade, all yours!

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a05ce25ccc.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d62b3bf064.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b25057c6b3.jpg

Noyade 26th Jul 2021 23:33

Thanks Beamr.
Another interior/cockpit shot - but with less wood paneling and room than the Marksman.
Only five built.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e9ca6476dc.jpg

Noyade 28th Jul 2021 00:35

USA.
Pusher-prop.

Self loading bear 29th Jul 2021 20:33


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11085933)
USA.
Pusher-prop.

The AASI Jetcruzer fits the bill but I could not find any cabin picture to confirm.

Noyade 29th Jul 2021 21:08

Nicely done Bear - over to you. :ok:

Self loading bear 29th Jul 2021 21:32

Thanks Noyade,

Next challenge

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....819b73089.jpeg

UV 31st Jul 2021 14:49

Hopefully this will push the challenge along ...

Beamr 31st Jul 2021 16:56


Originally Posted by UV (Post 11087685)
Hopefully this will push the challenge along ...

That certainly gave at least 44 hints

Self loading bear 31st Jul 2021 20:20

It is NOT a Robbie 44
That looks different:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6ef5ffa7.jpeg


UV 31st Jul 2021 22:16


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11087768)
It is NOT a Robbie 44

Quite right. The aircraft in the challenge climbs more like a homesick angel.


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