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Self loading bear 17th Mar 2024 20:37

Mooney M20?

Ombinda 18th Mar 2024 15:29

Very far from the mark.

Self loading bear 23rd Mar 2024 10:39

I Think we need another clue or photo.
edit: just saw the what aircraft challenge.

Noyade 24th Mar 2024 09:52

Hmmmm...would it therefore be the Atlas Angel...?

Ombinda 24th Mar 2024 10:03


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11622499)
Hmmmm...would it therefore be the Atlas Angel...?

Ding Ding!

Noyade 25th Mar 2024 10:48

Cheers!


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1cea9517ee.png

Self loading bear 25th Mar 2024 21:05

He doesn’t seem to be very happy….

sycamore 25th Mar 2024 21:44

Something from B Rutan...?

Noyade 26th Mar 2024 09:49


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11623451)
Something from B Rutan...?

Yes. :)

Ombinda 26th Mar 2024 10:44


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11623730)
Yes. :)

Scaled Composites ARES?

Noyade 26th Mar 2024 20:22


Originally Posted by Ombinda (Post 11623786)
Scaled Composites ARES?

:ok:
Shot down in Iron Eagle III.
All yours Ombinda.



Ombinda 27th Mar 2024 05:46

Could not have done it without your guess, so you have it sycamore.

(And a bit busy at the moment)

sycamore 27th Mar 2024 15:00

Thanks OM,but got nothing at the moment so,OPEN HOUSE..

sycamore 27th Mar 2024 15:26

2 Attachment(s)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f19cb96f74.jpg
Just found this...

sycamore 27th Mar 2024 15:33

Seems like Ican`t delete the second one,so it`s a 2-for-one bargain...

Self loading bear 27th Mar 2024 18:27


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11624665)
Seems like Ican`t delete the second one,so it`s a 2-for-one bargain...

select the Go advanced mode when in editing

sycamore 27th Mar 2024 18:45

TVM ,SLB...!!..

meleagertoo 28th Mar 2024 09:19

'tis a Gladiator forsooth!

sycamore 28th Mar 2024 12:44

Actually,it`s more `sore-tooth` when you start the Mercury,with much `grinding and `squeaking`,until it runs smoothly,oil pressure is high,then falls to normal as the temperature rises...Then in flight it `purrrss`,like a big cat sleeping...
Any way,here we are returning from Mildenhall 9/6/84,and a photo session en-route; bit of a grey day ,and the engine is well known to get carb icing,if you reduce power without carb heat..been there,done that..!
copy/wrt/Vines/Davies..,,,You have control...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2ae06a7a47.jpg

OUAQUKGF Ops 28th Mar 2024 13:39

Is that Dickie Martin there ?

sycamore 28th Mar 2024 17:23

OUA,sadly it`s not...it`s me..however..
3 yrs earlier,a conversation with DM went something like this..amidst much smoke from his pipe..
DM;`Now laddy,have you read all the Gladiator`s Notes...?
Me; `Yessir`, (respect for a Wg.Cdr(rtd)....
DM,now accompanied by JohnLewis(CTP R-R,and Dep CP SC);;;`A few questions then..Speeds??engine limits????carb heat..??etc,etc...More smoke,like the Pope`s chimney,and non-audible conversation between DM and JL..
DM...`Right Ho`..Go and get airborne,do some stalling,some aerobatics-No negative `G`,Practice display,and a circuit to land..Don`t forget the carb-air!!`Fly it like a Tiger Moth`...
And so off I went into the `Wide blue Yonder` It`s not like a T-M,more like a 900 hp Stampe ;so then we` have to land,and of course `everybody`,engineers,pilots,staff,photoggies,are all watching,waiting,as `we` land on all 3 wheels,no bounce ,skip or hop,run straight,and taxi back in to shutdown,,,(You do land it like a T-M).
DM..`Well done, old boy...You can take it to the Staverton Air Display next weekend,OKAY..`.
Me,`Yessiirr`...(how to go from `laddy` to `old boy` in one flight...)

OUAQUKGF Ops 28th Mar 2024 19:34

How splendid.... The Autair Operations Office was always full of smoke, one really needed an instrument rating to work in there - DM being a major contributor along with Maurice (Have you got a light Old Boy ?) Rowan.

sycamore 28th Mar 2024 20:33

I flew on an Autair Viking airtest after an engine change at Luton; It was -AGRW, and Capt Rowan was in charge...I was just a bit of `ballast` in the back..

meleagertoo 30th Mar 2024 10:23

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7d3bde545e.png

Asturias56 30th Mar 2024 13:30

Well when we get the museum we'll get the aircraft..................

Is that a Beech in front of the challenge?

Self loading bear 30th Mar 2024 18:06

Helicopter on the right looks like a SA330

sycamore 30th Mar 2024 18:16

A Puma and a VampireT55...does it have `wobbly wheels`...? Shorts `Shed`...?
Assume it`s high wing,with engine controls in roof...

India Four Two 30th Mar 2024 18:16

Overhead power levers. Is this a flying boat?

meleagertoo 30th Mar 2024 23:14

Not a flying boat.
High wing.
What are 'wobbly wheels'?

sycamore 30th Mar 2024 23:32

Go up/down,usually on command....

meleagertoo 31st Mar 2024 09:15

Ah!
No, wigid wheels.

Asturias56 31st Mar 2024 09:18

half teh world seem to have used the Vampire T55 :{

meleagertoo 31st Mar 2024 09:49

I think that correlating a nation to its museum exhibits is a policy fraught with pitfalls, else followiing a visit to Duxford you might think the UK had operated SR71, U2, Pukara and Focke-Achgelis types...
The nation that built this type never operated Vampires anyway though some of the several countries it was exported to did. This pic is from one of those.

Asturias56 31st Mar 2024 10:03

I think that's wise advice - this museum seems to also have a very early aircraft top left - it's clearly an eclectic collection. Tho' I'd guess unlikely to Warsaw Pact.

The challenge looks pretty austere - so I'm guessing not from the USA?

Noyade 31st Mar 2024 11:11


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11626784)
half teh world seem to have used the Vampire T55 :{

Or is it the T.11?
Assuming it is - and assuming this is a military aircraft museum that used all the aircraft depicted over a period (the T.11, Beech and Puma) - one common denominator for all three - is Mexico.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f6b85d4dab.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ea10190e9.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a747a7ed7d.jpg

Looking at Mexico's inventory (1973), it lists four high-wing aircraft - the Mitsubishi MU-2, Britten-Norman BN-2, IAI-201 Arava and the Catalina. We know it's not a flying boat.

Asturias56 31st Mar 2024 12:18

the Mexican AF have a museum - but it I can't see a full list of aircraft


thnarg 31st Mar 2024 14:52


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11626890)
the Mexican AF have a museum - but it I can't see a full list of aircraft

Well, they have one of these…
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6c043a241.jpeg

Asturias56 31st Mar 2024 17:19

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - I'd forgotten all about those...................................

nice polish on it mind!

dixi188 31st Mar 2024 18:43

I had ruled out anything powered by PT6s as they normally have three sets of engine controls and I can only see two in the photo.

bafanguy 31st Mar 2024 21:39

If it's a fixed gear airplane, what is that lever on the overhead panel just above and left of the left throttle ?


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