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Ex FSO GRIFFO 21st Aug 2020 11:10

FYI......
Tonight's ABC News (Fri 21st) reporting that WA Premier says it may be 'well into the next year' before WA's borders are declared 'open'.
March & beyond got a mention.....For what its worth.....

That is all.....

On eyre 21st Aug 2020 11:38

[QUOTE=Ex FSO GRIFFO;10866767]FYI......
Tonight's ABC News (Fri 21st) reporting that WA Premier says it may be 'well into the next year' before WA's borders are declared 'open'.
March & beyond got a mention.....For what its worth.....

That is all.....[/QUOT

Used to have a lot of respect for sandgropers but rapidly losing that with this guy.

yep - f**k you Jack - I’m alright comes to mind.

Buster Hyman 21st Aug 2020 11:48

So, if we make it a condition that border closures also include GST monies from excluded States as well, would that change their mind? I bet VIC & NSW would welcome the retention of their collected GST...to aid in the recovery, and pay off some Chinese loans of course.

Green.Dot 21st Aug 2020 12:04

These Premiers are morons. Do they have a hidden agenda to make every Australian airline go bankrupt? And what about all the associated industries?

I feel so sorry for our kids- we are watching our economy and their future being trashed through lack of proactivity when at least half of the country should have restriction free travel (at this very moment, yes the situation could change).




Bug Smasher Smasher 21st Aug 2020 12:19


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 10866767)
FYI......
Tonight's ABC News (Fri 21st) reporting that WA Premier says it may be 'well into the next year' before WA's borders are declared 'open'.
March & beyond got a mention.....

Guess when the WA state election is?

Pandering to his core voter base and to hell with the rest of you.

Ragnor 21st Aug 2020 22:29

QLD have 9 new cases ( 3 are on a cargo ship off TSV) this morning, QLD really need to learn to live with it, the strategy of eliminating it is not working for them. Maybe Gladys could show Anastasia how its done and hand her play book over to her.

Green.Dot 21st Aug 2020 22:56


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10867203)
QLD have 9 new cases ( 3 are on a cargo ship off TSV) this morning, QLD really need to learn to live with it, the strategy of eliminating it is not working for them. Maybe Gladys could show Anastasia how its done and hand her play book over to her.

Gladys seems to be the only one with a spine willing to accept some risk in the interests of keeping the economy going and for that I say good job. Their low case numbers speak for themselves proving that a balance can be found- even with a basket case of a State bordering it & the Ruby Princess fiasco.


blubak 21st Aug 2020 23:08


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10867216)
Gladys seems to be the only one with a spine willing to accept some risk in the interests of keeping the economy going and for that I say good job. Their low case numbers speak for themselves proving that a balance can be found- even with a basket case of a State bordering it & the Ruby Princess fiasco.

Yes agree 100%,doesnt stand up & bleat about how good she is unlike her northern counterpart.
Bet Anastasia wont be telling us how good she is today as her state sinks further towards bankruptcy.
Feel sorry for all the tourism operators up there who will never see another $ from the southern states spent at their business again.
Is she going to stage the AFL grand final with a crowd of 30 allowed🙄

Ragnor 21st Aug 2020 23:36

QLD is the laughing stock of the country, they want AFL, NRL Grand finals but won’t let a pregnant mother in northern NSW with twins to be emergency flown to a hospital for surgery, they had to be taken to Sydney luckily they all survived.

How are they bank rolling the 200million to pay Bain?

Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 00:04


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10867203)
QLD have 9 new cases ( 3 are on a cargo ship off TSV) this morning, QLD really need to learn to live with it, the strategy of eliminating it is not working for them. Maybe Gladys could show Anastasia how its done and hand her play book over to her.

Coincidentally VIC had 9 new Covid deaths yesterday (they still have 626 in hospital inc 40 in ICU) and Victoria are jumping with joy with their face-masks on, at only 179 new cases.

Queensland persons can travel greater than 5km (24 hours a day).

Cairns Airport announced (19-Aug-2020) Brisbane-Cairns intrastate route is the busiest route in Australia.

NSW does not have border closures - they don't need to. Victoria closed it's borders and Queensland also, the other states either have low/no cases or border closures.

Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 00:08

https://blueswandaily.com/cairns-air...n-the-country/

Cairns Airport announced (19-Aug-2020) Brisbane-Cairns intrastate route is the busiest route in Australia, as airlines are increasing capacity into Cairns from intrastate and selected interstate destinations, indicating the region is well poised to see a strong return in visitor numbers as momentum continues. From the beginning of Sep-2020, Cairns will see the return of 11 times weekly Gold Coast service and Jetstar will resume twice weekly service to Darwin. Jetstar is also increasing service to Adelaide to six times weekly from 19-Aug-2020 and then to daily from 01-Sep-2020. Brisbane-Townsville, and Brisbane-Mackay are now the second and third busiest routes nationally.

Slezy9 22nd Aug 2020 00:11


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10867245)
NSW does not have border closures - they don't need to. Victoria closed it's borders and Queensland also, the other states either have low/no cases or border closures.

I’m sorry to butt into your “Labor = bad” echo chamber. But you’re incorrect. NSW will not allow people who have been in VIC into NSW. VIC has no border restrictions.

Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 00:34


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10867249)
I’m sorry to butt into your “Labor = bad” echo chamber. But you’re incorrect. NSW will not allow people who have been in VIC into NSW. VIC has no border restrictions.

I do not see it as a red or blue team - but stand corrected on Vic borders and NSW have border "restrictions".

rattman 22nd Aug 2020 00:51


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10867249)
I’m sorry to butt into your “Labor = bad” echo chamber. But you’re incorrect. NSW will not allow people who have been in VIC into NSW. VIC has no border restrictions.

And the intitial reason for the QLD / NSW border closure is that NSW allowed people in from VIC so they could lie and travel onto QLD. (The 3 women charged for doing that exact thing ) Act is under the same condition even tho they haven't had a positive for a week or 2

What I find funny is that there are always people from NSW and VIC ****ting on QLD for being the 'redneck state' but soon as the borders are closed its the worst thing ever and how dare QLD

Green.Dot 22nd Aug 2020 01:43


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 10867266)

What I find funny is that there are always people from NSW and VIC ****ting on QLD for being the 'redneck state' but soon as the borders are closed its the worst thing ever and how dare QLD

No one is currently arguing about NSW and VIC being locked out. This is now about how stupid WA/QLD/NT/SA/ACT and TAS are for not working together and destroying their own economies.


Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 01:46

NSW put border restrictions in place on 8 July (prior to this they were open).

Passenger numbers for the prior month (June).

Brisbane Airport : 184,616
Sydney Airport : 172,000

Both these numbers are well down on pre-Covid and I expect Sydney took in more international arrivals than Brisbane. Given the disproportionate population of the two states and QLD had closed borders till July 10 - it sure looks like one state is doing better than the other.

Interestingly for the same month the passenger numbers for a few other airports (we got out done by the Kiwi's)

Heathrow Airport : 320,283
Auckland Airport : 231,600
Hong Kong : 59,000
Changi : 48,200

Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 01:47


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10867281)
No one is currently arguing about NSW and VIC being locked out. This is now about how stupid WA/QLD/NT/SA/ACT and TAS are for not working together and destroying their own economies.

Only Scomo.

“I think a national leader should have been able to bring all of the states and territories together,” Ms Palaszczuk said. “Frankly, I‘m a bit sick that Queensland has been singled out as opposed to South Australia, and Tasmania, just to name a few"

Square Bear 22nd Aug 2020 01:49


And the intitial reason for the QLD / NSW border closure is that NSW allowed people in from VIC so they could lie and travel onto QLD.
:ugh: And the very same girls could have just as easily flown from Vic to Qld and transited to a flight to NSW. But hey, don't let the truth get into the way of a good story, especially is you are a parochial type.

And with this weeks QLD outbreak in a secure Detention Centre in Brisbane it shows that even putting severe (and even some idiotic and compassionless) restrictions in place, it is highly unlikely that you will stop the transmission...especially on the east coast which doesn't benefit from the longer distances of separation as does the Sovereign Principality of Western Australia.


Bend alot 22nd Aug 2020 02:18


Originally Posted by Square Bear (Post 10867284)
:ugh: And the very same girls could have just as easily flown from Vic to Qld and transited to a flight to NSW. But hey, don't let the truth get into the way of a good story, especially is you are a parochial type.

And with this weeks QLD outbreak in a secure Detention Centre in Brisbane it shows that even putting severe (and even some idiotic and compassionless) restrictions in place, it is highly unlikely that you will stop the transmission...especially on the east coast which doesn't benefit from the longer distances of separation as does the Sovereign Principality of Western Australia.

The 6 relevant cases (more test results to come) in QLD are related to 1 worker. It is unknown how that person contacted Covid-19 at this stage so the "outbreak" shows nothing much at the moment.

Given the other states have not changed their border restrictions with Queensland at this time is an indicator of that outbreak, and the response to it.

The girls are just one example of NSW and the ACT being used to gain illegal access to QLD - NSW was happy to facilitate these actions for the sake of a few $'s for THEIR economy, sort of had the opposite effect. Had NSW been a responsible player they would have put restrictions on border travel with VIC early but even after it was clear VIC was a basket case they did nothing - the result is they are excluded as much as VIC even though they seem to have good case tracking capabilities.

Square Bear 22nd Aug 2020 03:13


The girls are just one example of NSW and the ACT being used to gain illegal access to QLD - NSW was happy to facilitate these actions for the sake of a few $'s for THEIR economy, sort of had the opposite effect.
Bend a lot, I can't understand how you can attribute this to NSW or ACT, the girls merely transited NSW and LEGALLY returned to QLD of which they were residents, and entitled too. The illegal actions were theirs alone by the making of false declarations of where they had been, and not some giant conspiracy whereby NSW facilitated entry to QLD. In fact people quite often legally transit SYD from MEL enroute to BNE as on many occasions this has been or is the ONLY flight connections on the day. I have done it myself whereby it was the only way possible to travel between MEL and BNE.

As I said, don't let the truth get in the way of a good conspiracy tale, eh....Contrails, 5G Towers next perhaps? :)


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