The news as of now it looks like us VICs are going to enjoy another 6 months of state of emergency.
Greens MP Samantha Ratnam mysteriously comes out of maternity leave to pass the bill. (That has the feel of Judas doing the breakaway and visiting the high priest house to pick up his 30 pieces of silver). Then speaking of the next gospel it will come on fathers day in the matter of 2 road maps. Really looking forward to coming up to the T intersection. Most likely the left sign will say 'more pain, misery, job redundancies this way' and the right sign will say 'really more pain, misery, job redundancies this way'. This is an extract from the Montypython/Yes minister ministeries, governing for all. Bless |
In Qld the Premier has stated that the borders will not open until there have been two complete 14 day cycles of no community transmission.
Really...is that even possible? Even NZ, a country held up as doing a great job is not achieving that at the moment. At least WA is doing it for its own purpose (and realistically upfront about it) ....not chasing the impossible dream like the QLD Premier is. |
I say hear hear!! |
If you can not dot that - please stop posting the same rubbish. |
This played on SBS last night.
It is well worth a look, despite being in the UK context. Skip to 24:00 if you want to see one of the presenters (young healthy male) requiring a defib. due post covid syndrome. |
Vic numbers reducing rapidly 70 for the last 2 days some profs even expecting single digits this coming weekend.
Then the so called 2 road maps will be revealed. Say the road maps maintain cases under 10. What if all states/territories for a period of 14 or 21 days register 5 cases or below. Would it be logical, maybe intelligent if all states premiers agreed to make masks compulsory nationwide with your sanitise bottle with you. Now would everyone on here agree borders then can open.??? That could be end of Oct start of Nov. Based only on predicted cases. |
Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 10876029)
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What if all states/territories for a period of 14 or 21 days register 5 cases or below. Would it be logical, maybe intelligent if all states premiers agreed to make masks compulsory nationwide with your sanitise bottle with you. Now would everyone on here agree borders then can open.??? That could be end of Oct start of Nov. Based only on predicted cases. |
Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 10876029)
Vic numbers reducing rapidly 70 for the last 2 days some profs even expecting single digits this coming weekend.
Then the so called 2 road maps will be revealed. Say the road maps maintain cases under 10. What if all states/territories for a period of 14 or 21 days register 5 cases or below. Would it be logical, maybe intelligent if all states premiers agreed to make masks compulsory nationwide with your sanitise bottle with you. Now would everyone on here agree borders then can open.??? That could be end of Oct start of Nov. Based only on predicted cases. But as we have seen unlikely. Why? Covid safe app? No it might penetrate my tinfoil hat Mask? No I can't breath. Any other reasonable measure? No the government cannot tell ME what to do. This could have been more of less over months ago.... |
Originally Posted by Bend alot
(Post 10876035)
First part first - What if all states/territories for a period of 14 or 21 days register 5 cases or below.
wouldn't be logical, if all states premiers open up the borders. The whole country to wear masks and have mini sanitiser bottle with them. Transmission would be very negligible under these conditions would it not. |
Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10876040)
Of course its possible.
But as we have seen unlikely. Why? Covid safe app? No it might penetrate my tinfoil hat Mask? No I can't breath. Any other reasonable measure? No the government cannot tell ME what to do. This could have been more of less over months ago.... |
You sir, have a very short memory.
"So I look at people with face masks on and I see people that have been brain washed by governments. They have no effect. Thank you cdc." Or was that not you? |
Originally Posted by Square Bear
(Post 10875850)
In Qld the Premier has stated that the borders will not open until there have been two complete 14 day cycles of no community transmission.
Really...is that even possible? Even NZ, a country held up as doing a great job is not achieving that at the moment. At least WA is doing it for its own purpose (and realistically upfront about it) ....not chasing the impossible dream like the QLD Premier is. Under a verandah somewhere is probably a good place for her😂 |
Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10876361)
You sir, have a very short memory.
"So I look at people with face masks on and I see people that have been brain washed by governments. They have no effect. Thank you cdc." Or was that not you? You can see the body language and concern, that their businesses are fading. What adds to the fury the dirty filthy sinky art degree Greens, have gone to the Labour brothel to vote in 6 more months of more power. Dan has us dangling with strings enjoy the puppet show. |
I can tell you one thing. As long as Mr Palmer continues to bomb the airwaves here in WA trying to get the borders open and criticising the Premier... there is no way the WA border will open.
The more he advertises, the more the majority of people are happy to keep the borders closed. And the more the people of WA support the Premier. |
Originally Posted by Bend alot
(Post 10875940)
A few details on protecting the elderly and vulnerable - WAS requested a few posts ago with just a few MINOR details please.
If you can not dot that - please stop posting the same rubbish. Makes me sick to hear him pretend he’s looking out for the “welfare of the youth”. They’ve never cared about the youth (not their target demographic), and have been happy to push agendas like their anti same sex marriage campaign that mental health experts warned us would increase mental health issues amongst youth. It’s solely a political attack on his political enemy. He quotes statistics from Peter Collignon (an infectious diseases Clinician and Professor of Microbiology) but fails to mention Collignon has said Victoria’s restrictions are the reason the infection rate was being turned around. Interesting data too, that Professor Collignon has promoted, nations that have suffered the least economic decline have also done the best at preventing deaths. But among countries with available GDP data, we do not see any evidence of a trade-off between protecting people’s health and protecting the economy. Rather the relationship we see between the health and economic impacts of the pandemic goes in the opposite direction. As well as saving lives, countries controlling the outbreak effectively may have adopted the best economic strategy too. Didn't see Chris Kenny talk about that...... |
Price vs cost of not locking down.
Early data from China. "As these policies prevented greater economic losses and more deaths, the Wuhan Lockdown is a policy with significant potential benefits." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-00545-4#Fig4 |
The hypocrisy reins in QLD. No quarantine for 400 AFL officials but every day Aussies are being punished on the border towns.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10876566)
The hypocrisy reins in QLD. No quarantine for 400 AFL officials but every day Aussies are being punished on the border towns.
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Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose
(Post 10876568)
They are quarantined.... get your facts right please
McLachlan confirmed Western Australia’s commitment to border closures and mandatory quarantine removed Optus Stadium from the final stage of the bidding process. Is this what we have become as Australians? Is this who we want to be? |
Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10876566)
The hypocrisy reins in QLD. No quarantine for 400 AFL officials but every day Aussies are being punished on the border towns.
I live in a border town. I cross the border for work daily. Have not missed a day through all of this. You might want to check your sources. |
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