Plan B? Early election perhaps?

As long as WA / NT / QLD / TAS have effectively zero community transmission, Dan (and Gladys) can only have one outcome - elimination.

The state borders will not open whilst one side has zero community transmission and the other has some community transmission. It would be political suicide for the zero transmission premier.

Dan (and Gladys) have only one option for the unity of this country - and that is to get elimination.

I don't think it's the best approach (due to precisely what's happened in NZ) but they are being held to ransom by the economy of the country (and the airline industry) to do anything else.

Eradication is not the goal in Victoria.

Suppression is the strategy, with the goal of not overwhelming hospital intensive care units.

Fair enough to have that goal but whats being done about the deaths from aged care,over 60% of the total deaths from that sector.
I read a statement from the minister responsible for that sector,he indicated the claims about poorly funded etc being untrue,he obviously lives in another world.
Dont think it wont happen in another state.

There are two ways out of a nursing home:

1. You go to the morgue.

2. You go to hospital, and then you go to the morgue.

It’s not a fair call to make to say that elimination has failed in NZ. From the 1st of April our Director-General of Health in NZ has said elimination cannot be defined as a single point in time, but is an going process where flare ups and new cases will be discovered. But once new cases have been discovered all measures, including new lockdowns, will be implemented in order to control the spread.

The government has always tried to explain to the public that just because we’ve had no community transmission in NZ, doesn’t mean the worldwide pandemic has gone away. As seen in Melbourne all you need is an error in your Quarantine and Managed Isolation facilities to let it out. At least the errors made in Melbourne have shown once again, act fast before you loose control.

So yes, we’ve gone from no community transmission and will likely be locked down in Auckland for a few weeks or a month. But as we saw in NZ during April, lockdown works. But you just don’t do it once, you do it when you have to and if we have to do this every 5 months until such time treatments or vaccines are available, then so be it.

Our boarders won’t be open until mid next year. ScMo has already said for Australia it won’t be NZ to individual states, but to Australia as a whole.

Here is hoping the phase 3 trials prove successful later this year.

There is a fairly large disparity in the number of cases in private versus public aged care facilities.

Scrupulous private operators that have been cost-cutting can't deliver the same standard of care using their highly casualised (and poorly paid) work force.

The Minister that you refer to is possibly commenting only on public facilities that rely on government funding.

Well here is my plan B. Lockdown all age care and all 70 years old above. Lockdown those under 70 with health conditions.
All healthy under 70 back to work. Everyone keeps their mask on every one has a sanitiser bottle and social distance etc. so transmission is very small.
Everyone needs to boost their immune system markedly as I have portrayed before, to have minimal effects for any illness for that matter. Get rid of those chemical stresses.
What the government doesn't tell you is the percentage rates from not dying from this. What ever graph you prefer it will show 98% above 70s of surviving and 99.6% for healthy
people of surviving covid. That 2% and 0.4% is what is emphasised every press conference.
The TV commercial with that 30 year old, that was released yesterday only shows that 0.4%. What the add didn't say did she have a underlying condition.
That's my model. If every state implicated this we can get back to work.

Another thing, lockdowns. Why do they lower your immune system? Your anti-bodies and T-cells (defence shield) also fall asleep in this lockdown (like living in a bubble.)
They need to be active they go to war every min of the day to fight of all pathogens. They need exposure. That's how they get stronger. That's how we survive from our ancestry.

Not to alarm anybody, but Mad Max took place in 2021. Just sayin :)

Yes it did and no she didn't, but she does now.
The greater majority of Australians want eradication and no-one gives a **** what you think.

And the greater majority of Australians should be looking at NZ and thinking “maybe eradication isn’t possible...how do we live with this thing”

roundup all those that don't want eradication and move them to Melbourne. Problem solved.

Just trying to find a comment that you and I agree on Xeptu. Found one, "So don't be too surprised if the Pandemic Management turns out to be an Epic Fail."

That's right, management of the virus is likely to fail. That doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't even bother to try. Given there are 4 states and territories that have done very well, with a few management stumbles but by and large successful, tells us that eradication is feasible and the preferred option. Our state has our fair share of "who cares" people too and that's a concern, that's why it's important to do everything we can to keep the virus out. you can choose to be part of the solution or part of the problem. You Sir right now are part of the problem.

No I'm not part of the problem. NZ has just proved that eradication doesn't work. If you can eradicate this then we may as well lockdown for the common cold
lockdown for the flu. Even though we have a flu jab it only protects you 40 to 60% of the time as it says on the vile. So even if you get the shot you can still catch the flu.
I know we differ, yours is eradicate mine is learn to live with it. Interesting argument. Mask on. Cheers and isolated beers.

Other states and territories may have done “very well” NSW and Victoria did all the heavy lifting in terms of incoming international repatriation flights. WA, QLD,SA and NT barely lifted a finger did SA and NT even take anyone? If the load was shared outcome would be most different.. now other states and territories won’t have a bar of us, in return at least we should send them the bill for looking after their residents.

Well SA did take quite a few actually and managed them properly so no community transmission from them.

Yes you are part of the problem and there will be no living with it, that is the decision of the majority. There is nothing more to say about it.

Took a survey did you?

or do you just get all your info from Facebook

Online Survey, every week, the question on closed borders supported by 83%, follow up asking 10 random people, do you think the state border should be open or closed. The result is pretty much inline with the online surveys. Don't you do surveys in your state.

Let me put it another way. If you came onto our private property arguing that by your presence the chance of any of us have only a 0.04% chance of dying and even then that would only be 0.00001% of the population. I would still shoot you in the face.