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Ladloy 24th Sep 2021 14:56


Originally Posted by chookcooker (Post 11116048)
what Pfizer deal?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...08-p58pv6.html



SHVC 24th Sep 2021 23:42

Why hasn’t lord daddy if the west put Victoria on extreme risk scale. He didn’t hesitate doing it to NSW, from a numbers perspective (positive results/test conducted) Victoria’s outbreak has been worse than NSW pretty much from the get go.

WingNut60 25th Sep 2021 00:28


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11116313)
Why hasn’t lord daddy if the west put Victoria on extreme risk scale. He didn’t hesitate doing it to NSW, from a numbers perspective (positive results/test conducted) Victoria’s outbreak has been worse than NSW pretty much from the get go.

Have you ever heard of the AFL Grand Final ........................?

On another note, from another thread, UK is now offering booster shots to anyone over 50 YO starting today.

SOPS 25th Sep 2021 00:35


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11116313)
Why hasn’t lord daddy if the west put Victoria on extreme risk scale. He didn’t hesitate doing it to NSW, from a numbers perspective (positive results/test conducted) Victoria’s outbreak has been worse than NSW pretty much from the get go.

Um.. it’s is from Wednesday. He gave people 4 days to get home.

SHVC 25th Sep 2021 01:52

Yes after the GF how convenient. My point is he closed to NSW much sooner than he closed to Vic which from a comparison Victoria outbreak is much worse.


Chronic Snoozer 25th Sep 2021 03:01


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11116344)
Yes after the GF how convenient. My point is he closed to NSW much sooner than he closed to Vic which from a comparison Victoria outbreak is much worse.

Sounds like an outbreak of common sense. Gives sandgropers till Wednesday night to get back to WA. What else have you got to complain about?

StudentInDebt 25th Sep 2021 05:25


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11116344)
Yes after the GF how convenient. My point is he closed to NSW much sooner than he closed to Vic which from a comparison Victoria outbreak is much worse.

Announced on Friday 20th August to be implemented on Thursday 26th, seems like he gave people in NSW longer - https://www.wa.gov.au/government/ann...led-border-nsw

AerialPerspective 25th Sep 2021 10:47


Originally Posted by galdian (Post 11115954)
...and if the crystal ball had been more accurate and predicted the media misinformation misrepresentation beatup ****storm about AZ things might have been different.

You'll have your chance to "stick it" to ScoMo sometime in the next 8 months or so.
Don't think you will succeed though, enough time for ScoMo to put lipstick on the past and I don't think enough will vote for Albanese....but how about we wait and see, wouldn't be the first time I've misjudged things.

Reading posts from people who can only bang on about the past - and jeez it's been a brutal 18 months - is just outright depressing.
If your intention is to feed on that depression - free razorblades anyone?? - then press on, you're being unfortunately far too successful in your pursuit IMHO.

For everyone else there is today (you're alive, beats being dead surely?) and with vaccinations ramping realistic expectations that 2022 should/will be heading in the way of "normal".

Cheers.:ok:

Except it's not just the vaccines, it's the promising to come home from Hawaii then not doing so until 4 hours earlier than he would have, then blaming his kids for wanting a holiday, then saying "I don't hold a hose mate", then forcing people to shake his hand for a photo opportunity, then not delivering the promised funds for rebuilding, but finding thousands for a Twitter 'Ad' for the LNP saying what a great job they're doing, then gutlessly writing a letter to Macron then claiming "the French were told" - add to that Robodebt, all the stuff ups with aged care, the NBN that cost twice as much and was half the system it was planned to be at half the cost and now they're going to spend billions more on fibre to the premises to make it what it should have bloody well been.

Covid is just another example of how this vacuous moron ducks responsibility or confrontation then throws others under the bus or uses weasel words or worse yet, just refuses to answer questions.

On top of that, all these morons marching in the streets saying their 'freedoms' have been taken away, all sleepwalk into a voting booth and vote for a government that has introduced draconian laws that allow even the military to spy on citizens.

Give me a break. The only place for retrospectiveness here is if the numb-skulls that voted for this Christian fascist at the last election had actually not just followed the crowd we may not have been in this position at all - the US had to deal with Trump and for all the criticism of Biden, he's been there 8 months and nearly 70% of the US is double vaccinated.

SOPS 25th Sep 2021 11:33


Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11116541)
Except it's not just the vaccines, it's the promising to come home from Hawaii then not doing so until 4 hours earlier than he would have, then blaming his kids for wanting a holiday, then saying "I don't hold a hose mate", then forcing people to shake his hand for a photo opportunity, then not delivering the promised funds for rebuilding, but finding thousands for a Twitter 'Ad' for the LNP saying what a great job they're doing, then gutlessly writing a letter to Macron then claiming "the French were told" - add to that Robodebt, all the stuff ups with aged care, the NBN that cost twice as much and was half the system it was planned to be at half the cost and now they're going to spend billions more on fibre to the premises to make it what it should have bloody well been.

Covid is just another example of how this vacuous moron ducks responsibility or confrontation then throws others under the bus or uses weasel words or worse yet, just refuses to answer questions.

On top of that, all these morons marching in the streets saying their 'freedoms' have been taken away, all sleepwalk into a voting booth and vote for a government that has introduced draconian laws that allow even the military to spy on citizens.

Give me a break. The only place for retrospectiveness here is if the numb-skulls that voted for this Christian fascist at the last election had actually not just followed the crowd we may not have been in this position at all - the US had to deal with Trump and for all the criticism of Biden, he's been there 8 months and nearly 70% of the US is double vaccinated.

So, I assume you think Bill ‘ let me jog for the camera at any opportunity ‘, would have been a better PM?

And, right now, as we speak, WA is hosting a huge Covid free, mask free, restriction free Grand Final.

If you think after this, there will be any pressure to open the border, think again. No one here wants Gladbags .. we have to live with it and people will die.. it may not last here.. but at the moment life is good. We will keep Mark, you can have Gladys.

Icarus2001 25th Sep 2021 13:21

Just on one point AerialPerspective, ScoMo is correct, he does not hold a hose but more than that FIRES are well and truly STATE issues, not federal in any way. Now I do agree that going on holiday was not a good look but in a practical sense the PM can and does work from anywhere.

Transition Layer 25th Sep 2021 13:32


Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer (Post 11116353)
Sounds like an outbreak of common sense. Gives sandgropers till Wednesday night to get back to WA. What else have you got to complain about?

No one should ever be locked out of their home state. It’s horrible and inhumane. Residents should always be allowed to return, and then carry out the necessary quarantine requirements.

Chronic Snoozer 25th Sep 2021 13:53


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11116605)
No one should ever be locked out of their home state. It’s horrible and inhumane. Residents should always be allowed to return, and then carry out the necessary quarantine requirements.

I agree. Or the country for that matter. But that wasn't the complaint of the OP, it was about inconsistent, allegedly, application of existing 'rules' regarding WA border closures between NSW and VIC. Turns out it wasn't the case.

murder most fowl 25th Sep 2021 19:55


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11116557)
And, right now, as we speak, WA is hosting a huge Covid free, mask free, restriction free Grand Final.

Have you noticed the crowds at sporting events overseas?

KRviator 25th Sep 2021 23:30


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11116557)
And, right now, as we speak, WA is hosting a huge Covid free, mask free, restriction free Grand Final.

And the only reason WA managed to get the GF for the first time since Federation? A global pandemic - it certainly didn't get it on its' merits!

Originally Posted by SOPS
If you think after this, there will be any pressure to open the border, think again. No one here wants Gladbags .. we have to live with it and people will die.. it may not last here.. but at the moment life is good. We will keep Mark, you can have Gladys.

Never would I have thought I would see such division between the states in my lifetime. Many of use here, including me, spent many years in the Defence Force serving Australia, not NSW or Qld, yet here we are, the nations largest state, telling the nation's most populous states "Phuck youse lot, we're doing great here and don't give a shyte about what's happening anywhere else, so long as we've got our mining royalties and our Grand Final."

Our forefathers would be turning in their graves seeing what has become of the nation they built, and in many cases died, protecting.... :yuk:


neville_nobody 25th Sep 2021 23:30


If you think after this, there will be any pressure to open the border, think again. No one here wants Gladbags .. we have to live with it and people will die.. it may not last here.. but at the moment life is good. We will keep Mark, you can have Gladys
I think after your economy blows up next year people will be screaming to open the borders. Everyones happy until it hits their back pocket. The miners will be first and it will flow down from there. They can afford inflated wages alot of other industries can't.

Green.Dot 25th Sep 2021 23:33

SOPS you certainly aren’t coming across as a team player. People on the other side of the country are at breaking point, and you rub their noses in what they are missing. Pull ya head in.

Capn Rex Havoc 26th Sep 2021 00:42

I hope that no one in that Optus stadium had covid.......


Transition Layer 26th Sep 2021 01:52


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11116860)
I hope that no one in that Optus stadium had covid.......

I sincerely hope someone did. An outbreak in WA is the only hope of boosting vaccination rates and rejoining the rest of the country anytime soon.

dr dre 26th Sep 2021 01:52


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11116843)
I think after your economy blows up next year people will be screaming to open the borders. Everyones happy until it hits their back pocket. The miners will be first and it will flow down from there. They can afford inflated wages alot of other industries can't.

That won’t just affect one state, it’ll affect the whole country. Iron ore is 50% of Australia’s exports, we’ve put all eggs in one basket and that basket is quite fragile, there’s a mine in the west African nation of Guinea that is planning to be outputting 10% of Australia’s total output from that one location alone in a decade.

Long term it’ll hurt the entire nation and all industries, including aviation, and even completely open borders won’t be able to make up for it.

galdian 26th Sep 2021 02:22


Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11116541)
Except it's not just the vaccines, it's the promising to come home from Hawaii then not doing so until 4 hours earlier than he would have, then blaming his kids for wanting a holiday, then saying "I don't hold a hose mate", then forcing people to shake his hand for a photo opportunity, then not delivering the promised funds for rebuilding, but finding thousands for a Twitter 'Ad' for the LNP saying what a great job they're doing, then gutlessly writing a letter to Macron then claiming "the French were told" - add to that Robodebt, all the stuff ups with aged care, the NBN that cost twice as much and was half the system it was planned to be at half the cost and now they're going to spend billions more on fibre to the premises to make it what it should have bloody well been.

Covid is just another example of how this vacuous moron ducks responsibility or confrontation then throws others under the bus or uses weasel words or worse yet, just refuses to answer questions.

On top of that, all these morons marching in the streets saying their 'freedoms' have been taken away, all sleepwalk into a voting booth and vote for a government that has introduced draconian laws that allow even the military to spy on citizens.

Give me a break. The only place for retrospectiveness here is if the numb-skulls that voted for this Christian fascist at the last election had actually not just followed the crowd we may not have been in this position at all - the US had to deal with Trump and for all the criticism of Biden, he's been there 8 months and nearly 70% of the US is double vaccinated.

My point was about the negativity of some just being depressing after 18 **** months.
Hopefully the vaccinations will see 2022 heading to something approaching normal - usual normal or "new normal" or however you want to view it, should be a hell of a lot better than the last 18 months. Seems too hard for some to see it that way.

The political was in direct answer to the posters comment.
They're all as bad as each other, bugger all leadership anywhere that I can see, some dislike ScoMo, some dislike Albo....whatever.
I just stated my thought that at present ScoMo will beat Albo at the next election - wasn't saying he'd be a worthy or deserving winner but in a two horse race that's how I see the result.

Cheers


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