We cant really go around blaming a generation, there has been some equally dumb 50+ year olds, everyone forgotten about Karen already! Whats done is done and unfortunately a lot of us will pay with our careers now.

The questions that need to be answered- what is QLD plan?! just close up because of two dumb asses! Sydney is under control there are cases yeah but remaining low that was the plan from the beginning I believe, suppression not eradication.
Whats Tasmania's plan?!
Whats S.A plan?!
all these state don't want to listen to the Fed Gov plan and adopt it, but, they will all have their hands out for cash off the Fed Gov for financial support
This country is a rudderless ship at the moment to many different captains pulling at the wheel.

Sydney is far from being under control. It only take a single person to make 20 cases per day into 100

End date is sunday 13th Sept(supposedly)

Sydney cases have been constant, contract tracing is effective and suppression have been successful. Eradication will never happen unless we do Victoria for a few months

That is the end of Stage 4. It is possible that Melbourne will come out gradually and go back via Stage 3 for a while. I wouldn't expect reopening of Victorian borders until November at earliest.

Remind me in a month

The first wave peaked mid March, the second wave I reckon has peaked now in July so that's a lull of 3 months. If (big if) we hit a 3rd
wave it will hit Dec. Their goes Christmas. Surely that would show the politicians that lockdowns don't work. First one didn't. In the lull it
only needs one case then that leads to 5 then 10 etc. Today, Dan has just killed another 250,000 jobs for what. To hide from a virus that will
still lurk around in Oct/Nov. If that does happen then the Swedish model must be implemented. It should be implemented now, i.e. locked down
the venerable and get the healthy working. The Roman Empire lasted 700-800 years and not one Emperor shut down Rome. One burnt it
down but he was a nut case. Eradication is virtually impossible. NZ have been in a massive lull though the last 3 days 1,2,3 cases have appeared.
Hopefully their isolated. What happens next is anyone's guess.

Another thing, numbers. Vic are doing 25,000 tests a day and on average 500 positives.
5,000,000 pop : ? Answer must be more.
25,000 tests : 500
That's 100,000 out their that are probably asymptomatic probably not isolating.
That's why stage 4 won't work? You cannot stop a tsunami with a shield and bare hands.

Some States are pursuing suppression of the virus and Victoria has shown how this approach is a fallacy that will result in far greater economic pain in the long term. Other States are pursuing elimination and the passage of time is showing this to be the more effective approach from both a public health and economic perspective. Throughout this crisis, every conservative decision has proven to be a winner. Every aggressive decision has proven to be a loser.

I can just see your colleagues reaction now, when you are sitting with them and announce you are infected, "but I'm still healthy though and willing to work" you'll be lucky if you can still walk out of the room.

Just a question.

Wave one was a low peak in Australia and Victoria.

Wave two was (may still grow) bigger than wave one.

When both waves began to grow lock downs were introduced to reduce the peak, and the wave subsided.

How exactly did lock-downs not work from a medical point of view?

Given Victoria is just going into stage 4 and 3 rural, can you explain your December peak prediction? - seems a tat early.

P.S. Mid March was not first peak - we only shut the borders on 20 March. End of March (after lock-down coincidentally) is the peak.
If you check the daily reported cases on the link - there may or may not be a peak as of 2 August. Certainly no real sign of a reduction, but it will soon show a reduction - due to lock-downs.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers

How is the ICU holding up? need some more medical staff?

We (the world) are still in the first wave. That is the problem. It has yet to peak.

"the Swedish model must be implemented"

The Swedish model is very close to what we call "stage 3 lockdown".

Total deaths in Sweden exceed total deaths in China. Not corrected for population size.

Rate of deaths in Sweden will shortly overtake that of Italy. (Read as "trainwreck")

We need to send all COVID cases to Wuhan !

Just watching the news. They are now studying what Covid can do to your heart, liver, kidney and brain. Not dying from the virus might be worse than dying from it. I can’t understand all these people that want to “let it rip”
just so they can get back in their jets.

If you catch it.. and survive.. your flying career may be very limited.

Anyone who believes the official Chinese death toll is an idiot.

Exactly!!!!!!

TurnLeft, feel free to infect yourself and tell us how you go afterwards.

Seems to be a lot of these Facebook University qualifications on here.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a0ba9ae8f.jpeg

CCP would't lie about that, would they?:}

But seriously, take another example. The US is held aloft by the media as "most/worst" in the world for covid deaths.

Rate of deaths (that is per capita) is still well behind Sweden.

Check out this interactive map if you haven't already -

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/t...hs-per-million

QUOTE=morno
TurnLeft, feel free to infect yourself and tell us how you go afterwards.
Seems to be a lot of these Facebook University qualifications on here.


Morno the problem is the virus keeps running away from me when I come near it. When they see/smell/think/judge
or try to infiltrate an immune system that's bullet proof they become week, hopelessly lost, distraught, and they bugger off.
Heck, I've been trying to catch the flu for the last 30 years and I can't even get that right.
I got my medical doctorate in 400BC from the greatest doctor in the world. Don't think Facebook Uni was around those days.

If you say so...

"human coronaviruses have been linked to myocarditis in patients of all age groups"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7199677/

UK reporting rate of around 10%; Comes as quite a surprise to those that were asymptomatic...

That sucks. Doesn’t duck as much as dying though. Not even in the same postcode. Wonder how many of the 17.5 Million known survivors wish they were dead?

but no, you go ahead and stand by the assertion that “not dying for the virus might be worse than dying from it”

edit: from you’re own link, in the conclusion: “Several cases of coronavirus-related myocarditis have been reported”

Yes death much preferred.....

1/ Apologies - my quote of your post was all that was visible when I replied, as you can see in the quote.

2/ Check the date on the paper. That info is 3 months old, in a 6 month old pandemic.

Lot of UK contributors here on Jetblast if you want a glimpse of the future.