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Angle of Attack 29th Jul 2020 23:16

I suspect Greater Sydney was labelled a hotspot to basically make it impossible to get in To QLD by air deceitfully, closes the loophole this couple used. Basically now if you fly out of MEL via anywhere into QLD you will get caught up in mandatory Quarantine. Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there, while I don’t really agree with the total ban it’s a sledgehammer approach because of the idiots like these. 🤬

Ragnor 30th Jul 2020 03:24

what about the mining industry, that will keep QLD going. They don't need the rest of us.

SuzieWong 30th Jul 2020 04:02


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10849098)
Hope the Qld borders remain closed forever,the state is on the verge of bankruptcy.
She can find money outside of australia to support her almost non existent economy,she has & always will use this for political points scoring & nothing else.
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.

We're doing fine up here thank you. You worry about your sh1thole down there.

"Only loophole is driving I guess, but you have to be really determined to drive BNE to MEL and back for a week or so down there".
Perhaps they should have taken your advice AoA - could have fitted a lot more of their alleged BV "shopping trip" in the boot.
Taking a look at some of their FB friends, I reckon they ought to be doing a bit of ISIS tracing too.....

jrfsp 30th Jul 2020 04:10

If CV-19 spreads everywhere then there will be no economy and the whole country will be back in lockdown.

What we have seen is that eradication is the only way to fully open the economy. Suppression does not work in the long term, 1 case will always become 2, becomes 4 etc...

NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid, whats Australia ? 5 - 10%? Less?

Green.Dot 30th Jul 2020 04:53


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 10849197)
What we have seen is that eradication is the only way to fully open the economy. Suppression does not work in the long term, 1 case will always become 2, becomes 4 etc...

Agree eradication would be ideal. But the morons of society havenít changed their behaviour to facilitate this, and they never well. The ship of eradication has sailed (at least in Vic). So short of getting a chainsaw and cutting Victoria out of Australia I have no idea what the answer is and neither do the leaders.

currawong 30th Jul 2020 05:25

Prevention would have been better.

Vietnam managed it.

Well, until someone made a more determined effort to share it with them.

bringbackthe80s 30th Jul 2020 05:38


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10849202)
Agree eradication would be ideal. But the morons of society havenít changed their behaviour to facilitate this, and they never well. The ship of eradication has sailed (at least in Vic). So short of getting a chainsaw and cutting Victoria out of Australia I have no idea what the answer is and neither do the leaders.


these comments are unbelievable. Oh my, this thing will last a long time

Check_Thrust 30th Jul 2020 05:58


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10849098)
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.

Not a fan of her however regardless of whether or not she mentions how many tests are done daily it isn't a state secret. If you are really interested/concerned you can find details of the number of tests completed on the QLD COVID-19 website.

Also the Australian government health website publishes figures for the total number of tests per state.

Come in spinner 30th Jul 2020 06:24

Blubak
I agree without NSW and Vic and tourism QLD is screwed.
wait till they ask for taxpayers money from the commonwealth, Vic and NSW is the powerhouse of the Australian economy.

Ragnor
Qld mining will keep the economy going in Qld, so funny

Come in spinner 30th Jul 2020 06:31

Vic is testing over 17000 per 100000 Qld 8000 as of 13th July

jrfsp 30th Jul 2020 06:34

With Covid tourism is screwed - its a no brainer.

601 30th Jul 2020 07:02


NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid, whats Australia ? 5 - 10%? Less?
NZ is a lot smaller and the Govt there had the luxury of not having to deal with 6 States and one Territory who actually control what goes on within their borders and are extremely protective of outside interference.

A lot of Australians do not realise, or refuse to believe, that the PM has very little or no control on what occurs within a State or Territory, especially where health is concerned.

The reason for greater Sydney being declaring a hot spot.

“There has been more outbreaks in other parts of Greater Sydney and that will now become another declared hot spot … effective from 1am Saturday morning and we have done that so we can give notice to Queenslanders,” Ms Palaszczuk said today.

Commissioner Carroll alleged Ms M and Ms L were "well involved" in the Melbourne party and received infringement notices while in Victoria.
She also alleged the girls spent "an awful amount of time planning how they were going to deceive and be deceitful".
Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said one of the teens was not cooperating with authorities in providing her whereabouts while infectious.
"I am very about the second individual who has not been cooperative and has not shared with us where she has been," Dr Jeannette Young said.
"So we have not been able to contact those venues and we will continue to work with that individual and hopefully get information."
Commissioner Carroll said she was "bitterly disappointed" at their alleged actions.
Ms M and Ms L have been issued with $4000 fines and would front court, she said.
Queensland health authorities alleged the two 19-year-olds visited shops, restaurants and workplace in the state's south east over the eight days since their return.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 30th Jul 2020 09:46


NZ domestic demand is back up to 70% of pre covid,
It's a lot easier to practice eradication (or more correctly, extreme suppression) if you are on an island the size of Victoria with less population and borders/access you can totally control.

Xeptu 30th Jul 2020 11:14

I can only sympathise with the people of Victoria. Where I am we have no known community transmission, but we have our fair share of idiots and who gives a F#ck people, like anywhere else. We are prepared and ready to bug out to our safe zone should that change. That is something we closely monitor and do everything we can to not get infected. We know at some point the decision will be made, it's time to go. We don't expect any intrusions in our safe zone on account of location. I'm devastated that it's come to this on account of the balls ups and incompetence.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 30th Jul 2020 14:30

Who is "we"?

do everything we can to not get infected.
Washing your hands and wearing a mask will pretty much cover you. This is not some zombie apocalypse. You don't have to run away and live in a cave. Get a grip man.

Slezy9 30th Jul 2020 21:29


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 10849588)
Who is "we"?

Washing your hands and wearing a mask will pretty much cover you. This is not some zombie apocalypse. You don't have to run away and live in a cave. Get a grip man.


if itís a simple as that can you explain why so many health care workers are infected?

Climb150 30th Jul 2020 22:11


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10849811)
if itís a simple as that can you explain why so many health care workers are infected?

Actually very few health care workers become infected. The only ones I know who did were unaware a patient had CoVID when they treated them.

currawong 30th Jul 2020 22:21


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10849829)
Actually very few health care workers become infected. The only ones I know who did were unaware a patient had CoVID when they treated them.

Healthcare workers infected in VIC currently stands at over 700.

Correction - "The Premier said 928 active cases in Victoria were connected to aged care settings, and 614 active cases were healthcare workers.

A total of 1,030 healthcare workers have been infected with coronavirus since the pandemic began."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...pdate/12510618


Xeptu 30th Jul 2020 22:52

We is my family and we won't be living in a cave, it is my summer residence, my favourite place to be and we won't be doing it tough. As I said previously, we have front line medical staff in the family, the girls have little confidence in current policy and procedure, given how some of them have been asked to relieve victorians because they have fallen to infection, my guess is that their concerns are correct, I wouldn't expect it to be any different here.

Xeptu 30th Jul 2020 23:03

On the medical front, the girls identified a number of weaknesses and have impressed upon management to strengthen, check and assure all to no avail. Given Victoria had 3 months to prepare like us in full knowledge of the weaknesses, particularly in the aged care sector and our most vulnerable, only to be the very first to go down like the canary in the cave. The girls are right, this is going to be a debacle, one we won't be present to watch. What else can we do. To try and draw a comparison, you think the Medical Industry is up to speed like the Airline Industry, it's not. You are carrying known dangerous goods in the cargo hold. The smoke detectors are fitted but not tested. The retardant lines are fitted but the agent bottles are not. Then one of your flight attendants says, we think we have smoke in the cabin.
On Wednesday we had the worst case of ambulance ramping at our brand new state of the art hospital since it opened, not one of them covid, so how do you think this is going to go.


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