I do suspect that I can guess exactly 'wot' he is holding onto...................

Any Takers..?????????

Cheeerrrsss............................

Playing hardball with state borders seems to be the new normal.

It seems to be heading in the direction that they will remain closed until December 31. With conditions attached on travel the day they open.

The PM would not speculate dates when asked today but just forecasted ‘probably summer’.

You may have missed it..but our Premier in WA said yesterday that our border may stay closed for another year!!!

Don't you love how one man, who is not even an elected official, can stop 14.5 million people from entering a state - and none of those ~15M people have any legal recourse to challenge that decision? That this one man can dictate terms to over half the country is an affront to both the concept of a nation and our constitution that protects freedom of movement between the states and freedom of disability or discrimination based on your state.

The longer this goes on the more frustration will take place. Victorians will start to get anxious about everything in life, jobs/relationships/finance as I heard
callers on talk back radio today. All state premiers have subtlety jibed each other, last week Josh Fry has basically said fix the bloody problem Dan your holding me up.
You can see the tension and you can see they are all under pressure. The barbs could get worse as we go on. A lot is at stake in these next 5 weeks. I know 601 you mentioned it's not a time frame.
However were homo sapien, creatures of the social variety and being locked in for 23 hours and some shopping within 5km and curfew from 8 will start to do your head in. More frustration will accumulate.

The press conferences are just dower. Just a numbers game. How about bringing in a herbalist, natural path, (Jenny and Brett) to provide ideas how to improve your immune system.
What a dam good idea?
Have you ever listened to the House of Wellness Gerald Quigley a week ago he even aired some good studies in zinc/magnesium/Vit D. Well how interesting.
All the draconian restrictions does nothing but lower your immune system. Now that's a bad idea. Why, because of the emotional/physical/chemical stresses which also leads to eating too
much junk food, those chains outlets remain open, funny that in a pandemic. Good model this one.

He said they could not put a date on easing border restrictions, it could be a month or it could be a year link here for one article. Interesting quote tho "Mr McGowan has previous ruled out a travel bubble with other states which have maintained low cases, and says the eastern states will have to eliminate community spread before he will consider lifting border restrictions".

As for QLD, I believe they will remain closed definitely until November after the election and realistically until it has been eradicated in NSW and Victoria so get ready for potentially years of this, Aviation will now be by far biggest hit at the end of this. With no vaccine on the horizon and if there were would you inject it?! I know I wouldn't.

Except for the 150 vaccine candidates in clinical trial, including the front runner oxford vaccine which has shown a strong antibody and T cell immune response as well as no adverse side effects.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/oxford-c...an-trials-show

Perhaps we have different definitions of 'on the horizon' or perhaps you take joy in being a doomsday soothsayer, but if a vaccine is 6-12 months away, I would call that on the horizon.

And yes, if it has passed all the clinical trials, I wouldn't have an issue taking it.

Definitely not a doomsday sayer more I’ve been optimistic with my colleagues with this. The time has come to be realistic also on the severity of the situation the suppression/eradication boat has long sailed in NSW and VIC it will not happen unless we stop international arrivals and do a full lock down in NSW along with VIC, as no one wants to learn to live with it that’s only option. I just hope AJ 3 yr plan still include me in it, along with my colleagues.
WA can support domestic travel with in their own border QLD they can also. As for the rest of the states we can’t. word is international travel won’t be allowed until 2022 now, unless there is a vaccine or eradication Domestic will not return anytime soon, I can’t see it coming back this yr.
I hear you with those vaccines I also have been keeping an eye on what’s going on, but, I’m sure their own country like (UK) for Oxford or (USA) moderna will fast track approval but what’s the bet Australian approval will not be so quick without proper research and testing no one will sign off on its use in Australia.
Next big question, how do current airlines operating in WA and QLD keep their pilots current without having to fork out 14 days of hotel accomodation upon their return! Virgin could very well be the only airline flying in QLD as they have a sim in Brisbane, no idea where Alliance is.

Get ready for back to the future. A few decades ago you had to present a yellow-covered international health record of vaccinations. No jab, no fly. Pretty simple. I can imagine that the government (and airlines, for that matter) to require evidence of vaccination to cross state borders. Certainly international ones.

Australia does not require local stage three testing for medicines for what should be obvious reasons. That’s what peer reviewed science is for, and federal approvals in the jurisdictions of invention. Just like aircraft type certificates haven't been (pre-max) second guessed for 25 or so years now.

Already a number of African countries require a Yellow Fever vaccination card before allowing entry into their country. This will just extend with Covid. Countries will not permit entry of non-vaccinated travelers which will need to be supported by a vaccination card or passport stamp and insurance companies will refuse to cover them. You can be an anti-vaxxer but you'd better be one that doesn't want to travel.

My airline still requires all crew to have the little yellow booklet showing all our vaccinations. Agree with the sentiment above that the (to use an already tired term) 'new norm' will have international (or even interstate) travellers to be vaccinated, and hence for the yellow book to be needed again. No inoculation, no travel. At least that would bring our industry a bit of much needed normalcy.

Fuel-Off :ok:

Wow. Auckland back on Stage 3 tomorrow. Rest of NZ stage 2.

Outbreaks incoming...

And NT closing borders for the next 18 months!!!

I have never been into conspiracy theories.. but the way this thing pops up
with no known source .. it’s almost like there are ‘ sleeper agents’ that are dropping it into the population.

Gunner is just trying to show some authority. I think most of our friends in the NT can see through his BS.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...wednesday.html
Struth 4 cases. Lockdown stage 3 for only 3 days.
So if Jacinta was Victoria's premier we would need to get to 4 cases for stage 3 to occur. Wow just wow.

Crisis over everyone. Russia has a vaccine.

Let me guess a shot of vodka into the arm.

Absolute incredible over reaction, but it’s the rod that it seems politicians on both sides of the Tasman have made for their own backs. It’s the only reaction available to them after all their complete eradication rhetoric.

You may well be right, wheels down. However, as a counterpoint, if I put a post on here a year ago, describing what is going on now .. you would have said I was full of BS.

The news from NZ shows complete eradication does not work. Thus lockdowns don't work. It's proven. End of story. I wonder if Dan can understand this.
Engage plan B. Hope he's got one.