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Xeptu 28th Jul 2020 23:00

Whilst mental health and suicide is a growing issue, most are related to ptsd, drugs and alcohol, being the underlying issues. Whilst covid may play a role in that, no-one goes from life is wonderful to suicide in 3 months. Covid then cannot possibly be the root cause. The only way forward for the time being is to eradicate the virus, that is the decision of the public at large.
Lets get it done. There will be no opening of borders while the virus is in the community.

compressor stall 28th Jul 2020 23:12

Turnleft080

At risk of feeding the troll, listen to the interview and stop being deceitful and selective.

He clearly says, "as at July 20" some 400 people have suicided. (NOT 400 since July 20). 400 for the first ca. 200 days of the year is 2 per day. 2 a day too many, yes, no-one is arguing with that. And the coroner also states why the suicide figures are not publicised - with good reason.

Remind us what the COVID-19 death rate is - per day - with only about 3-500 daily cases? Even my primary school kids could extrapolate that out if you can't.


Framing your "argument" with emotional heartstrings of "sorry" and "touching" to leverage off the tragedy of suicide to advance another cause is despicable.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 29th Jul 2020 02:15

Wed 29th., Just announced on Radio 2GB (SY) The QLD Premier has just banned ALL entries into QLD from 'Greater Sydney'.....which encompasses some 44 Local Councils in and around the SY area.....including the SY CBD.......

WEF 0100 Saturday Morning, 1st Aug.

This announcement coincides with the claim that QLD Police are investigation 2 women who allegedly flew on 2 Virgin Flights, ML to SY, then a separate flight SY to BN, and claimed to have travelled only from SY on 'Travel Declaration' on arrival at BN.....and have since tested 'Positive'
Police are investigating - and both women are said to be in hospital in BN.....

What can one say..???

airdualbleedfault 29th Jul 2020 02:38


Whilst mental health and suicide is a growing issue, most are related to ptsd, drugs and alcohol, being the underlying issues. Whilst covid may play a role in that, no-one goes from life is wonderful to suicide in 3 months. Covid then cannot possibly be the root cause. The only way forward for the time being is to eradicate the virus, that is the decision of the public at large.
Lets get it done. There will be no opening of borders while the virus is in the community
Spot on Xeptu although I'm not sure how many triggered woke milkenials here will agree

Ragnor 29th Jul 2020 02:55

Well there goes any come back to aviation in 2020, QLD premier closes border 12:01 Saturday morning because two people traveled from Victoria with covid.

Angle of Attack 29th Jul 2020 03:21

Not only that, these two teenagers were out and about in the SE Qld community for 8 days, most of that time infectious allegedly, Multiple Shopping Centres, Pubs, Restaurants, Churches were visited, sounds like a complete Cluster about to occur.

Ragnor 29th Jul 2020 03:41

So why close to Sydney tho, these people miss lead the authorities and were in Victoria!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 29th Jul 2020 03:55

Maybe, just maybe, its because these two were 'caught'.

How many others might there be...and....even then, how many would have given a 'false' address to gain entry......??

Who knows.....???

normanton 29th Jul 2020 03:55


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10848499)
Not only that, these two teenagers were out and about in the SE Qld community for 8 days, most of that time infectious allegedly, Multiple Shopping Centres, Pubs, Restaurants, Churches were visited, sounds like a complete Cluster about to occur.

Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10848506)
So why close to Sydney tho, these people miss lead the authorities and were in Victoria!

Because they traveled to QLD from NSW.

BNEA320 29th Jul 2020 03:59


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10848510)
Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.

Because they traveled to QLD from NSW.

has anyone anywhere in Australia actually paid corona fines ? Even if it did go to court, most would just plead no money.

Section28- BE 29th Jul 2020 04:11

ex ABC: 'I'm absolutely furious': Premier declares Greater Sydney hotspot......
 
ABC article on today's developments: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...itive/12499794

Extract:


Ms Palaszczuk said 31 new local government areas in Sydney were now official hotspots for the purposes of entering Queensland and the measures would come into effect from 1:00am Saturday.
VA: MLB-SYD-BNE on 21 July.

Extract:

"They both travelled together recently including to Brisbane from Melbourne on the 21 of July via Sydney."

Mr Miles said Queensland Health was now identifying close contacts from the Logan and Springfield Lakes regions and the flights the women travelled on, VA863 and VA977.
rgds
S28- BE

Ragnor 29th Jul 2020 04:41

Still does not make sense to close off to Sydney!

compressor stall 29th Jul 2020 05:23

Are the government health directions to isolate punishable by jail time?

That would be more of a deterrent than $1000 fine - Say 3 months jail for breaching self isolation requirements.

Stickshift3000 29th Jul 2020 05:42


Originally Posted by compressor stall (Post 10848534)
Are the government health directions to isolate punishable by jail time?

Failure to comply with any VIC direction is punishable with fines only: potentially 120 penalty units for an individual; 600 for body corporate.

Stickshift3000 29th Jul 2020 05:56


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10848499)
Not only that, these two teenagers were out and about in the SE Qld community for 8 days, most of that time infectious allegedly, Multiple Shopping Centres, Pubs, Restaurants, Churches were visited, sounds like a complete Cluster about to occur.

These two idiots were only caught because they're now in hospital... they will hardly be the only two people that managed to get around the border restrictions.

I wonder how many others there have got through?

compressor stall 29th Jul 2020 07:00


Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 (Post 10848539)
Failure to comply with any VIC direction is punishable with fines only: potentially 120 penalty units for an individual; 600 for body corporate.

What a shame.

Xeptu 29th Jul 2020 07:04

Yeah that's for Victorians in VIC though, in the other states we feed them to the wildlife. :)

Turnleft080 29th Jul 2020 08:30

Posted by normanton
Well it sounds promising that the QLD government is saying it's now a criminal matter. Send them to jail for 10 years.


In the good old days, in the 60s, hangman Henry Bolty would of done just that. In the 40s, they would of been sent to the post Nuremburg trial style.
In the 1700s in the Napoleon reign, just like witches fate, the spectacular angled slanting blade would be released on descent in the middle of Place De La Concorde and wind the clock
down to the 1400s the English Clergy would of burnt these two Vics either side of Joan of Arc. While I'm at it, lets take one more leap to the Roman Empire,
a crucifixion, we can't do that (that's a blokes only club) a stoning, maybe, though Nero was always on the lookout for pet food for his lions.




currawong 29th Jul 2020 10:26


blubak 29th Jul 2020 22:54


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10848494)
Well there goes any come back to aviation in 2020, QLD premier closes border 12:01 Saturday morning because two people traveled from Victoria with covid.

Hope the Qld borders remain closed forever,the state is on the verge of bankruptcy.
She can find money outside of australia to support her almost non existent economy,she has & always will use this for political points scoring & nothing else.
Never hear her mention how many tests they do daily,like Trump says,'if we dont test,the numbers will come down'.


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