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No Idea Either 26th Jun 2021 12:04

AoA

i just don’t understand your logic. If the disease runs rampant and the hospitals fill up with COVID patients, what happens to the 10,000 normal every day patients. Do they all get better whilst COVID runs its course, or do they die due to lack of resources. Look at Brazil, look at India and look at the US and Italy earlier on. People dying everywhere due to a lack of beds, 1000’s per day, remember. Or is it all staged fake news (to paraphrase an idiot)??????

turbantime 26th Jun 2021 12:17


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

Do explain…

mattyj 26th Jun 2021 13:37

Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 14:00


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11068685)
Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!

The ironic thing is if the Australian public took that sarcastic comment seriously we’d be in a position similar to Singapore now, well on the way out of this pandemic.

Instead a hesitant public took your nonsense comments seriously and here we are.....

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 14:05


Originally Posted by turbantime (Post 11068653)
Do explain…

They never ever will. Or they’ll post a link to a rubbish anti-vax website where “the truth” about vaccines will be “exposed” alongside articles about chemtrails, QAnon and 5G.

Anti-vaxxers posting here are just trolls, getting a kick out of winding people up who are very down at the moment.

SOPS 26th Jun 2021 14:35

I really worry about these people who think the vaccine does not work. I wait to see any real proof. (I’m sure there is not any).

jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 14:50

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...tive/100247100

the good news keeps coming

SHVC 26th Jun 2021 21:35


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

layman 26th Jun 2021 22:55

Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.

blubak 26th Jun 2021 22:58


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068886)
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

It would be interesting to find out what the qualifications are of these people who constantly question the development & effectiveness of the vaccine & also many other things such as the wearing of face masks etc.
Talking about dickheads complaining,i was at a local footy match yesterday & behind me were 2 women telling everyone around them how their business was so badly affected by lockdown & how they got no govt assistance yet in the next breath 1 of them said how ridiculous it was having to wear a mask & no one was going to make her wear 1 & then the other woman told me she wouldnt be getting the jab as it was her right not to.
Idiots like these 2 is what we are up against.

ruprecht 26th Jun 2021 23:04


Originally Posted by layman (Post 11068914)
Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.

Plus their 5G reception is excellent.

I’m growing weary of the vaccination ‘debate’ in this country. Maybe we need a new government slogan:

”Get vaccinated, you f*cking retard”

Foxxster 26th Jun 2021 23:05

I really don’t know why we are having this Sydney wide and even wider, central coast, blue mountains and Wollongong lockdown. According to some demographer people in Sydney don’t move outside their immediate area because of rivers and harbours etc. Maybe the health experts should have spoken to him first and we could have avoided all this.

hotnhigh 26th Jun 2021 23:38

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/des...trictions.html
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/us-...t-quarantining

Stick with it Australia your plan is going well. You should be able travel again in 2056.

FFS, people need to wake up and research wtf is happening outside the political/media cocoon we now find ourselves in.

SHVC 26th Jun 2021 23:40

That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.

ruprecht 27th Jun 2021 00:05


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068935)
That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.

The announcement of the election date will coincide with the extra Pfizer vaccines arriving later this year, and the narrative will be how “we have kept Australia safe”, and now “it’s time to consider opening up”. The ALP will not be able to argue against this because they will be painted as either “killing grandma”, or “killing business”.

mattyj 27th Jun 2021 01:04

It’s pretty simple; the spike protein in the virus causes much of the ill effects of the virus..the spike protein is also in all the mRNA vaccines. Take them if you feel you should, your body your choice. There’s a definite risk reward calculation that has age and illnesses in the formula.

the data I’m reading is that young men are definitely not advised to get one of the mRNA vaccines.

-41 27th Jun 2021 01:13


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068886)
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

Did you also believe the “we just need 14 days to flatten then curve” narrative, or the we only collect sign in data for public health contact tracing and all records are deleted after 28days, not shared with amazon, google or law enforcement.

As long as this hysterical response continues from public health experts 100% vaccinated population or not the tyrannical restrictions will remain.
the current vaccine treatment is for a variant that no longer exists.

SHVC 27th Jun 2021 01:34

No I did not and To be honest I’ll admit, I’m all for let it go and take its course, 14 days these other BS 3 hard quick sharp snap lockdowns or what ever they want to call them is crap. From start till now the states and feds could have built easily almost 50 hospitals as major ICU centers trained 1000s of staff even could pay these staff 20% above award wage to attract them and we would still be financially better off.

We would be where most of the world are now, but, no we are and will have for yrs to come have constantly closing internal borders treating each other like criminals in our own country whilst the world will most definitely have moved on. Time ppl realized what we are seeing now will continue well past 2023 maybe we’ll beyond 2024, you’re delusional if you think you’re back at work in next few yrs as an international pilot.

As pilots we should be deeply concerned because QF reserves will run out soon enough when their stake holders decide it’s pushing sh!t up a bill because Australia can’t get their act together. I will be sureprised Australia has any kind of international carrier wether QF, JQ or VA.

Potsie Weber 27th Jun 2021 01:42


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11068949)
It’s pretty simple; the spike protein in the virus causes much of the ill effects of the virus..the spike protein is also in all the mRNA vaccines. Take them if you feel you should, your body your choice. There’s a definite risk reward calculation that has age and illnesses in the formula.

the data I’m reading is that young men are definitely not advised to get one of the mRNA vaccines.

Wrong! There is no spike protein in the vaccines.

-41 27th Jun 2021 01:48

SHVC Agreed. I’d rather see the frustration directed to the inept performance of the health experts and politicians. These lockdowns and restrictions will never cease as the virus continues to mutate. Apportioning blame then placing the spotlight on a individual driver for spreading a virus whilst transporting aircrew Is total bull****.


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