SA, Tas and QLD residents are free to move through the state and vice versa.

Until those states shortly open up to VIC and NSW, at which point WA will likely go back to the “island within an island” mantra that MM loves!

Nonsense. People from TAS, QLD and SA can enter without quarantine and without being vaxxed.

There have been two lock downs since the pandemic began, each lasting 4 days.

We have had less cases and deaths since this began that Vic get in one day.

Europe slides further towards lockdowns and restrictions. Do not go and if you know anyone planning a trip there including the UK in the next few months, advise them against it.
Even if countries only lockdown the unvaccinated, in Germany that is 14 million people. Think of the effect that is going to have on the number of workers available to staff restaurants, shops, public transport, hotels etc etc. And major events like Christmas markets are already being cancelled. Things are only going to get worse and probably quite rapidly.


The hardest-hit region has been Upper Austria, where the governor today called for restrictions on the un-jabbed to be scrapped - but only so that a full nationwide lockdown can be imposed instead.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ief-warns.html

Completely agree, there is no lockdown in WA. The states you list have enacted similar travel restrictions to states with COVID cases and NT was on there too until this week.
For the sake of accuracy, since the pandemic began there have been 3 "snap" lockdowns in WA this year - January, April and June, there was also an initial period of lockdown restrictions from mid-March to May 2020 (capacity restrictions remained in place for several more months).

The fact you can fly from Sydney or Melbourne to Europe but not WA shows we are no longer one country.
The damage this political mess has created will last a long time.

Looking at you source link I can see why you believe that. The media PREDICTIONS are not reality.

If only the PM took responsibility

I wish he COULD. The federal government cannot override State Health Acts.

I have said before, imagine ScoMo allowing flights into Perth Airport or Brisbane Airport, Federally controlled land AFP jurisdiction. Then the state police are on the road out of the airport throwing everyone into quarantine.

From the graph on the Daily Mail link we can see that France, Italy, Spain and Portugal are recording the slowest growth in new infections. They also happen to be the most vaccinated of all countries, with total vaccination rates of 75-80% (would equate to 90%+ of over 16s as used in Australia)

UK has a high vax rate too so their growth is in the middle, but they don’t have any other measures for the moment, vaccine passports plans were dropped. In Italy for instance they have a green pass system to enter a restaurant, bar or workplace and that combined with high vax is working to keep numbers down.

Places like Austria, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany have 65-70% total Vax numbers. They are the ones now debating imposing restrictions on the unvaccinated, and that alone has caused the vax rate to shoot up as the article states.

In Australia we have vaccine mandates, a greater will to implement vaccine passports plus will achieve a higher vax rate (95%+ of over 16s) before opening up and letting the virus fully circulate before next winter, so shouldn’t encounter the same problems.

The evidence from Europe is clear, very high vaccination rates plus use of a passport system and masks in high risk settings work well, along with restrictions on the unvaccinated. Moderate Vax rates and little or no restrictions on the unvaccinated is just not strong enough.

Austria is going back into full lock down for at least 20 days. Germany tipped to follow. I think the predictions are becoming reality.

For countries with low vax rates.

Austria had levelled off at 67% 1 dose and 64% 2 doses in the total population a few days ago, one of the lowest rates in Western Europe. Austria, for some reason, has had an abnormally high amount of influence from anti-vaxxers in it’s politcial sphere, the third biggest party in parliament is a far right party which has promoted anti-vaccine views, and a single issue anti vaccine party gained seats at the last election too. But these latest announcements have thankfully caused a spike in vaccinations in the last few days.

For comparison Australia is at 77% one dose and 70% two. This equates to 91% and 85% of over 16s. And climbing steadily whereas Austria levelled out well below.

Yes, I realise that. My point simply was, some of Europe is heading for another lock down.

So let’s agree then that one maybe two or three countries out of forty four MAY be going back into some form of lock down.
Agreed.

He did have the option to control hotel quarantine, order more vaccines earlier and implement a national plan. All of which he didn't do.

OK we get it, you don't like ScoMo, fair enough.

Please don't continue to flog a dead horse - does nothing for the horse and makes the flogger appear unbalanced and unworthy.

Next year you get to express your displeasure at the ballot box - look forward to that time and when it comes let it rip! :ok:

But please, you just keep on flogging Palaszcuk, McGowan and West Australians to your tiny mind's content.

And when was the last time I said anything about those you mentioned?

I've given up, MM and the chook can play their own games in their own way and I'm happy to look on with mild amusement tinged with occasional incredulity.

Cheers. :ok:

just balancing the unbalanced forum that is pprune.

Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.

Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.

More importantly, is whoever named this new strain a futurama fan? Or simply coincidence.

considering Pfizer themselves just said that they won’t know how effective the vaccine is for two weeks, care to share your source for the 30%?

Maybe have a look at Botswana where it was first discovered on 11 November & the crisis there.

Remember what AID's stands for?

https://www.avert.org/professionals/...-0GytjFIxp3hkc

it was on the news, however they may have made a mistake as it has 50 mutations with 30 new spike proteins

AIDS- Aviation induced divorce syndrome!

NEWS = Never Educate With Sensationalism

The only evidence that is coming from Omnicron so far is that it is reinfecting previously infected individuals, which would suggest it could reduce vaccine effectiveness as well. Just another lesson to be learned from letting the virus spreads leads to mutations that eventually overcome human defenses, hopefully its less severe, rather than worse.

Much lower death rate from COVID in Africa (except South Africa) compared to other regions throughout the pandemic thus far. Could be from a number of reasons but most likely due to very young population demographics.

I would say the average Africans immune system is armed to the teeth from exposure to everything. There's also the lower age and higher fitness of the general population as well. Not so many fat, diabetic couch surfers in most of Africa, where in SA its closer to 'western' lifestyles. They also are very in-tune with epidemics and avoiding getting sick, you wont see many of them laughing at the spread of sickness like in the west.

Standby for the imminent closure of our international border.......and I so advise!! (there goes the holidays).

I doubt they will close it straight away, they may restrict travel inbound from certain countries.

They will watch it keenly tho to see the spread.

Already happening:

Federal government to announce changes to quarantine for South African arrivals

The variant has been detected in or from people who’ve been to Egypt, Israel, Hong Kong, Belgium. It’s too late to contain out of Africa.

But there’s some preliminary statements from SA that it’s not causing too much severe illness and vaccines are still keeping people mostly out of hospital, so caution and a bit of calmness needed.

Already vaccine manufacturers have stated they can tailor booster shots specific to the variant, so no doubt this will trigger anti vaxxers to claim the variant was created by big pharma all along......

mRNA booster vaccines can be tweaked as such to cater for new variants so shouldn’t be a disaster in the West. No doubt they are already working on it.

2022/2023 was always going to be a case of cat and mouse with variants and outbreaks. We need to sort of cycle out of the exit phase with numerous bumps along the way. It will die off eventually......

If it’s going to trigger a firm border again, Keep the nations border shut to protect the state borders. We cannot go back to what we are now getting out of. I can see some states shutting off to the world again.

Fingers crossed! Unfortunately caution and calmness don’t get clicks! Just saw the Greg Hunt press conference and some questions from the media present suggested he wasn’t going far enough - one of them asked about future lockdowns etc. FFS! The parasitic media has a lot to answer for in how this pandemic has unfolded.

Waste of time if it’s more contagious than Delta. We couldn’t contain that in hotel quarantine. No chance of containing this. Quarantine camps? Probably, but Howard Springs is still the only dedicated facility.

Definite chance state borders may close again, or stay closed, if Omicron is found in Vic and NSW in the next couple of weeks until more is known.

Moderna has issued press releases indicating they’re already working on an Omicron specific booster. Pfizer and Moderna indicating 100 days to have new variant specific vaccines to market.

Antivirals should be here soon and as they target a different area they should still be effective.

At least keep Vic and NSW open to each other. Highly likely by the looks of things, the others well we sort of know what they will do.

I’m betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.

We should know within a few weeks the impact that Omicron will have on vaccine efficacy.

That shouldn’t affect WAs border opening timeline, so of course it will.

Keep dreaming SOPS you scared little person

Im not scared at all. Just expressing an opinion.

The government has already shut the borders to countries affected by this variant. It’s effective immediately which means they know this is likely a highly virulent strain. It’s not a massive leap from listing countries to a return to fortress Australia.

That’s my guess anyway, I wonder if we have learned any lessons from delta.

Won't happen before the federal election is over. Can't have that pesky Scottie from Marketing visiting and 14 days quarantine sort of stuffs Scottie's electioneering up.