I did laugh at this...
Australian government announced flights from South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho, Eswatini, and Mozambique are banned... It’s not a massive leap from listing countries to a return to fortress Australia |
Singapore Airlines are offering flights to Brisbane and Adelaide from 15 January, Perth from 1 March.
https://mainlymiles.com/2021/11/25/s...ane-and-perth/ |
WA is closed to SA due to Omicron.🤣🤦♂️(Seriously).
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I repeat. I can’t see WA opening its borders anytime soon.
Arrivals from South Australia 30 minutes ago (4.30pm) have been told they have to do 14 days Q, or return to SA. |
And the borders are starting to come down again for international arrivals.
NSW is ordering All travellers who have been in any other overseas country during the 14 day period before their arrival in NSW must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 72 hours, pending further health advice; |
And the borders are starting to come down again for international arrivals. NSW is ordering All travellers who have been in any other overseas country during the 14 day period before their arrival in NSW must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 72 hours, pending further health advice; |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 11147803)
Oh FFS grow up. First of all a border is either open or closed. It is not Schrodingers cat! Your post shows that the border is in fact OPEN with the condition you go home for three days.
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Can’t believe how quickly some of you lot believe the media hype! Impressive words like ‘monstrous’ mutation and so on! Wow. Get back under your rocks and take cover!!! And be careful the sky doesn’t fall on your head too!
Information out of SA states that no one has yet been hospitalized with this ‘scary variant’. Im sure some will be but ffs, life has to go on now! You cannot keep stopping and restarting life!!! |
2 cases in NSW just announced. Let’s see how the states react during the day. WA will make a new level of “stay the F away” category above the very high risk. QLD will be interesting they love nothing more than to close off to NSW id think they might delay their opening now.
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Nice to see the fear has started already.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11147928)
2 cases in NSW just announced. Let’s see how the states react during the day. WA will make a new level of “stay the F away” category above the very high risk. QLD will be interesting they love nothing more than to close off to NSW id think they might delay their opening now.
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More importantly, I want to know why the WHO skipped a couple of letters of the Greek alphabet and went for Omicron. Seeing as the letter before that is “Xi”, I wonder if there was a quick phone call from Beijing saying it wouldn’t be a good idea to call it that. :yuk:
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NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.
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52 States in North America and I’m trying to research each states entry requirements. Can only find a single statement on quarantine requirements on arrival ? Is Australia more fractured and divided across state lines than the USA ?
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Pharmaceutical companies are looking into the new varient to see if vaccines need to be tweeked, most case so far are of unvaccinated people so the present vaccine is at least partially effective.
COVID precautions are already in place, as are large scale vaccination programs. As we're coming upon to nearly a year since people started getting vaccinated, another shot or at least a booster jab is going to be needed for most people in 2022 anyway. |
Testing companies are charging Medicare around $120 per Covid test (70,000+ tests per day in VIC alone). Pfizer vaccine cost around $10 a pop. Perhaps we should all stop getting tested and direct the money to vaccinating the poorer less developed countries thus reducing the chance of virus mutations in the future.
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Already being done Fiji owes its record vaccination uptake to the AZ that Australians shunned. Many other nations are receiving a lot of foreign aid in vaccination, money wont fix it, just more production of vaccine, which is at limits. You also have to get the locals to take the japb as well, the US is not stagnating at 50-60% vaccination due to lack of vaccine, it just suffers from high levels of stupid. King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it....
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43,
“ King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it.... “ you sure about that, I thought a study of who were actually holding off proved to be the opposite |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11147995)
King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it....
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
(Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.
God help us. |
Originally Posted by megle2
(Post 11147996)
43,
you sure about that, I thought a study of who were actually holding off proved to be the reverse
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
(Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.
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Deleted due incorrect info
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My email says 14 days.
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All flight crew who have been overseas during the 14-day period before their arrival in NSW must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 14 days or until their departure on another flight that leaves Australia, consistent with the current rules for unvaccinated flight crew; |
Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
(Post 11148009)
He seems to be, because we're now back to 3 days, in line with Victoria.
Seems to have changed as soon as the adults got in to the office today. Do you have other information? |
It looks like you're correct. I was relying on the fact that specific reference to aircrew had been removed from the statement below on NSW Health website. It was there this morning but had been removed by this afternoon, referring only to "travellers".
But yes, digging deeper the health orders still seem to apply. Sorry, I'll edit my above post accordingly. Got over excited. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0d9eb39b74.png |
Originally Posted by Check_Thrust
(Post 11147931)
Although you might be right about the reactions of various premiers for interstate border restrictions the two COVID-19 cases that arrived in NSW are not yet confirmed as the Omicron strain (not sure if you were actually implying that they were).
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11148024)
I have an inside source, that they’re infected with the new strain!
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Here we go again.
Mcd |
Israel , a country that many look to for its good handling of WuHu flu have now closed their borders to EVERYONE for 14 days. That is all foreign nationals. All.
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Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.
Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again. What a blow. |
This was always going to happen given the sheer size of the petri dish that covid can mutate in. I expect that we are only in the early innings of the entire pandemic, but it could just as easily eventually mutate into something really contagious yet about like a bad cold in terms of mortality.
On a positive note Pfizer has suggested that they may be able to modify their vaccine to suit in as little as ten weeks. Which makes 2022 a repeat of 2021 if Omicron is as dangerous as Delta. The early reports are only anecdotal, but there is a suggestion that hospitalisations are lower with Omicron. Here’s hoping… |
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11148094)
Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.
Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again. What a blow. |
Since C19 was a major actor in the UK, we have an Isolation exemption for "Essential Workers". ie Truck drivers crossing Borders with food supplies medication etc.. Also includes Flight and Cabin Crew. All are double vaccinated of course, and tested before a foreign trip. seems common sense, if mandatory 14day Isolation was mandated every time a crew went to Paris and back, we would very quickly bring airline aviation to a halt?
There has been no widespread C19 infection problems. even though mask wearing and social distancing cannot be routinely possible in the confines of a flight deck. |
Originally Posted by LapSap
(Post 11147952)
More importantly, I want to know why the WHO skipped a couple of letters of the Greek alphabet and went for Omicron. Seeing as the letter before that is “Xi”, I wonder if there was a quick phone call from Beijing saying it wouldn’t be a good idea to call it that. :yuk:
In a statement, the WHO said it skipped Nu for clarity and Xi to avoid causing offence generally. “‘Nu’ is too easily confounded with ‘new,’ and ‘Xi’ was not used because it is a common last name,” the WHO said, adding that the agency’s “best practices for naming disease suggest avoiding ‘causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.‘” Those best practices were outlined in a May 2015 document issued by the agency. The organisation said at the time that it wanted to “minimise unnecessary negative effects on nations, economies and people” when naming infectious diseases. |
FFS SA doing 14 day quarantine stints again for international arrivals. NSW and Vic 3 days. What’s the bloody point of getting vaccinated, there will always be new variants is this how the reaction is going to be moving forward.
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
(Post 11148094)
Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.
Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again. What a blow. Yet another great screw up by government and NSW health. Lets restrict movement to the country AFTER it has arrived in Australia. They dont care, they still continue getting paid, in fact it has secured them more time in their roles/positions. |
Originally Posted by Servo
(Post 11148441)
Yet another great screw up by government and NSW health. Lets restrict movement to the country AFTER it has arrived in Australia. They dont care, they still continue getting paid, in fact it has secured them more time in their roles/positions.
As someone said yesterday, the only damage from this thing so far has been indirect - the knee jerk reactions of governments in attempting to buy some time. Anecdotal evidence is emerging from both SA and Israel that illness is mild in the vaccinated. Anti-virals in the pipeline will still work. There is some good news out there. I know it's tough but try not to get sucked in by the doom merchants. Even Brett Sutton said yesterday that in no way are we back to square one. Hopefully governments will listen and borders will remain open. All the best to you Servo. Take care of yourself. |
Hopefully with the statement from Sutton in Victoria that its impossible to keep out the strategy to 'live' with it will be the primary direction of at least Victoria. That has little comfort for particularly international aviation as its quite apparent already the borders are slamming shut and travel will stop. All this will do is really dent any comeback to travel overseas as people come to realise Covid ain't going away anytime soon. Travel plans are best to be shelved until something significant happens that says you won't have your plans and money lost to the ether time and again.
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