Originally Posted by goodonyamate
(Post 11166497)
completely agree 43. My point was the media portray the AMA as some association of dogooders with only the public interest at heart, whereas in actual fact, they are exactly as you describe.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167525)
I have just come from our local supermarket here in Perth. The shelves are getting empty. Speaking to the owner ( it’s an iGA ), he said there are big supply problems from the Eastern States. I just saw the QLD Premier saying she is worried about keeping the lights on, water running and food on the shelves. NSW is changing isolation rules to try and keep food on the shelves. Flights are being cancelled because of lack of crew and/ or passengers ( I’m surprised about the lack of passengers, I kept hearing about how opening the borders will release a huge pent up demand… it seems sick people don’t like to travel.)
I am waiting to see how long it takes to affect fuel supplies. Hospitals admissions continue to climb. ICU admissions continue an upward trend. Available health care workers continue a downward trend as more get sick. I could continue…. So I just want to check. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Open up and all will be normal. That was the idea, was it not? Just checking. Regarding the upward trend in hospitalisations, that’s always going to happen. But take a look at the numbers in NSW: 38 on ventilators with 1962 spare ventilators. SA Health for example have come out and said whilst their case numbers are more than what they forecast, their actual ICU are less then forecast. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167525)
I could continue…. So I just want to check. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Open up and all will be normal. That was the idea, was it not? Just checking. But we do know that once waves have passed people travel again. Ryanair's second half 2021 loads matched their second half 2019 loads. Miami International Airport processed more passengers in November 2021 than November 2019. It'll happen in Australia too once the initial post opening wave has passed, give it a month or so. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167525)
I have just come from our local supermarket here in Perth. The shelves are getting empty. Speaking to the owner ( it’s an iGA ), he said there are big supply problems from the Eastern States. I just saw the QLD Premier saying she is worried about keeping the lights on, water running and food on the shelves. NSW is changing isolation rules to try and keep food on the shelves. Flights are being cancelled because of lack of crew and/ or passengers ( I’m surprised about the lack of passengers, I kept hearing about how opening the borders will release a huge pent up demand… it seems sick people don’t like to travel.)
I am waiting to see how long it takes to affect fuel supplies. Hospitals admissions continue to climb. ICU admissions continue an upward trend. Available health care workers continue a downward trend as more get sick. I could continue…. So I just want to check. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Open up and all will be normal. That was the idea, was it not? Just checking. |
Either open and stop this isolation rubbish or close all borders now and go back to lockdown, as it stands now we are not really open. Society can not function they way it is heading, I’m currently trying to navigate a closed day care, buy food as they shelfs are empty and many other things.
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate
(Post 11167645)
but you’re not open. You’re still living in hermit land. Oh that’s right. You don’t want to open so families can be reunited etc. you just want supplies from the eastern states. So stay closed, but take supplies. I guess a trip to the local IGA is pretty much all you’ve got these days. Is that the plan yeah?
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167809)
Life is normal here thanks. Very few restrictions. ( basically none). No one has died from covid. I’m pretty sure no one is in ICU. Life is pretty good in the hermit kingdom.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167809)
Life is normal here thanks. Very few restrictions. ( basically none). No one has died from covid. I’m pretty sure no one is in ICU. Life is pretty good in the hermit kingdom.
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Originally Posted by Jester64
(Post 11167815)
That definition of normal is unsustainable and you know it, McGowan knows it and the federal government knows it. It’s why WA is opening in FEB.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167818)
I don’t think Mark McGowan as given a flying Fxxk what the Federal Government thinks anytime in the last 2 years. And if you think what is going on right now in the Eastern States is sustainable…. Enjoy.
With regards to your previous post, who’s now dying over east? It’s the unvaccinated, the terminally ill, the extreme elderly (who if the vaccine doesn’t stop them dying from covid, than they were not going to live much longer anyway) and the extremely unlucky ones. It’s not much different to a bad flu season, a time where you and every other person who is calling for the WA border to remain closed were happy to enjoy exercising freedom of movement to cross state borders despite a virus killing over 1,200 per year. You didn’t give a **** back then, now all of a sudden your circumstances have changed so you give a **** now? You piss me off SOPS, me me me me What’s happening over east is not sustainable, but it is being managed, and it’s only going to be temporary. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11167818)
I don’t think Mark McGowan as given a flying Fxxk what the Federal Government thinks anytime in the last 2 years. And if you think what is going on right now in the Eastern States is sustainable…. Enjoy.
Dr Robertson said waiting to open the border until after other states' infection rates peaked wouldn't make a difference. "[Post-peak] they'll still have large numbers of cases within their community, so the actual total cases in the community will still be widespread," he said. Similar comments from McGowan: When announcing the date on Monday Mr McGowan said it was “locked in” barring “some unforeseen emergency or catastrophe which we can’t predict”. Asked whether he would consider 25,000 daily cases in NSW a catastrophe, Mr McGowan said no. From the Government site: Western Australia will embark on its Safe Transition Plan as announced last month from 12:01am on Saturday 5 February, 2022. The locked-in transition date |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11167831)
Well it's coming to WA
——— It's coming. 25 days, 11 hours and 28 minutes until the "Hermit Kingdom" is over. Best mentally prepare for it now. |
Originally Posted by De_flieger
(Post 11167836)
It’ll never get in by road, that’s for sure. The locals will refuse to let it merge on at the freeway onramps, because the ability to merge is not the WA way, then it’ll be aggressively tailgated by a meth’d-up tradie in a lifted Ford Ranger with sand tyres until it flees. 😉
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I don’t think Mark McGowan as given a flying Fxxk what the Federal Government thinks anytime in the last 2 years. |
Now that a AO tennis player was Visa cancellation was over turned. What does this mean for Australians that were not allowed back unvaccinated who may have had it?! This guy has been an anti vaxer from the start. This country is a dead set joke.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11167888)
Now that a AO tennis player was Visa cancellation was over turned. What does this mean for Australians that were not allowed back unvaccinated who may have had it?! This guy has been an anti vaxer from the start. This country is a dead set joke.
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If you’re unvaccinated, isn’t there 14 days quarantine?
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Originally Posted by ANCDU
(Post 11168189)
From what I understand Australian citizens are currently allowed back in unvaccinated post infection with medical proof. The problem with the tennis player is that he was given advice by tennis Australia and the Victorian Government that only applied to Australian Citizens of which he is not. Even after his victory in his appeal he is technically still in Australia illegally.
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This debacle illustrates well the last 2 years.
This once great country really is in a shambolic state these days. MCD |
And this year is going to be a bigger debacle than the previous two…
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For the first time in my life the Australian Open may actually be entertaining
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11168212)
How can that be, when he has a visa?
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...00264f73f6fe1b https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...alia/100746080 If they deported this player I can't see how they cannot deport Djokovic, without knowing the exact details. Either way it appears to be a gold standard cluster**** |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11168212)
How can that be, when he has a visa?
It specifies on the e visa paperwork and the website when you apply that it does not guarantee entry to Australia and that the final decision rests with Border Force on arrival. |
...and the Border Force's 'final decision' on arrival was challenged and overturned by the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia.
It was reported in all the papers... |
Originally Posted by ANCDU
(Post 11168247)
It specifies on the e visa paperwork and the website when you apply that it does not guarantee entry to Australia and that the final decision rests with Border Force on arrival. |
Just illustrates that the Legislation wasn't tight enough & exemplifies the regular 'Policy on the run' that both sides of the floor have experience in. I didn't think he should've been allowed to enter but the Courts have decided so I hope they don't use discretionary powers here.
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I don’t think they will use discretionary powers after a court ruling, that will present more issues. However, it’s been reported he was not truthful on his declaration by not disclosing travel to Belgrade. He definitely has turned Australia in to the laughing stock of the world, as if we were not already. He had also outlined other issues that independents are jumping all over on the eve of an election which will create turmoil for the Libs. Our politicians really need to have a hard look at themself. Australia really needs to let go of these rules around COVID now, does seem unfair a person with the finances can challenge and win whilst normal Australians have had their lives up turned by these rules.
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It is rather straightforward.
He came to play a game. He is not vaccinated. He is not an Australian citizen. I need to be vaccinated to have Coffee at my local cafe. I am an Australian citizen. I live here. |
...and the Border Force's 'final decision' on arrival was challenged and overturned by the Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia. |
Not exactly?
Yes exactly. And as each minute passes the Immigration Minister becomes less likely to pretend to be big and bwave. |
...and appears Border Force are looking into whether answer(s) he made in his visa application were misleading or dishonest.
Make it very interesting if the visa was granted based on such responses. I'd call it 30 all at the moment. |
Interesting that he just happened to get the required infection about a couple of weeks before having to travel to Melbourne. What was his plan if he didn't get infected? After all, he'd already been issued the visa by then.
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 11168349)
Interesting that he just happened to get the required infection about a couple of weeks before having to travel to Melbourne. What was his plan if he didn't get infected? After all, he'd already been issued the visa by then.
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Meanwhile....Back At The Ranch.......
WA set to pull the curtin down - again - on Thursday 13th....(unlucky for some...) according to the latest from the 'usual suspect' news sources..... (Apols to Casablanca) Feb 5th looking a bit 'sus'..?? No doubt, more to follow.... Cheeerrrsss... |
Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO
(Post 11168980)
Meanwhile....Back At The Ranch.......
WA set to pull the curtin down - again - on Thursday 13th....(unlucky for some...) according to the latest from the 'usual suspect' news sources..... (Apols to Casablanca) Feb 5th looking a bit 'sus'..?? No doubt, more to follow.... Cheeerrrsss... |
Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11168983)
‘Curtin’ as in one of our finest PMs? (A West Australian as well). Or are you suggesting some kind of lockdown?
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Griffo how can “they” pull the curtain down anymore? Locked out to all other jurisdictions with a 14 day quarantine.
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Not quite 'all' Mr I.,
From the WA Gov site...... 'The N.T. will transition from 'high risk' to 'extreme risk' under W.A.'s controlled border from 12.01am Thurs 13th Jan 2022' The NT has been open until this but with restrictions, e.g. 'Approved Traveller' with a G2G Pass. Under 'Extreme Risk' the list of 'approved travellers' is significantly reduced.......is what the site says. 'Google' WA Lockdown news.......for more detail. See yas all.......sometime....... |
Lockdown different to border closures Griffo, think you’re getting a bit confused with the terminology.
The “island within an island” is once more and SOPS is sitting at home loving life, feeling safe! :yuk: |
Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 11169207)
Lockdown different to border closures Griffo, think you’re getting a bit confused with the terminology.
The “island within an island” is once more and SOPS is sitting at home loving life, feeling safe! :yuk: |
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