You have to dig into your salary to eat at home too.

It depends. You can be a pauper, bring packet noodles and keep almost all your allowance for a slip (although it’s paid into your bank account these days).

I guess it correlates to how much lavish of a lifestyle you’re willing to live in your day to day life. Is a modest house in a middle class suburb with a generic car and public school for the kids OK for you? Or do you need the big house in the flash suburb with the Mercedes and boarding school fees too?

The overseas allowances are based on the ATO rates (page 10 & 11 here) and calculated by 'hours in port'. As a new S/O you'll roughly get between $9 and $12 per hour in port and most stays are 24 hours or more, especially on US and London trips. Suffice to say they are sufficient to afford to eat well at decent restaurants and have (quite) a few beers/wines/drinks and engage in some entertaining activity of your choice (so as not to be confined to your room). Sometimes you may have some left over depending, as Dr Dre says, just how many/much of the aforementioned vices you partake in.:ok:

The system had recently changed C441. You now get the full ATO rate including incidentals from sign on at home base, to sign off at home base (with rules about when the rate changes based on which level of the scale the place you are going is on). So you are also now getting DTA while in the air. The time in Port system is gone.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html

​​​​​​​My conversions.

Back in Aus it’s pay freezes and 2% a year. 🤨

Thanks morno and optomist. Appreciate it.
It's a bit less than I thought.

It is disheartening when Qantas is making money hand over fist and we still get the ‘we have to keep hold in costs’ and they talk about recruitment but not retention!

No one to blame apart from the pilots in this case, if we accept the 2/3% pay increase and people actually think is a good deal we deserve what we get = nothing.

On the recruitment side, the emails came out for Jetstar saying "we will release candidates 2 per month starting at the end of 23 by seniority", sounds like the hold is going to last for many years.

What this means is that Qantas Pilots pay for their own endorsement.

Gosh, an SO’s job on a 787 must be harder than the same job on an A330/350. Who would have thought? LOL

Pretty sure I know my hourly rate :rolleyes:

$103 X 160 = $16,480 per bid period. $16,480 X 6.5 bid periods per year = $107,120 per year.

Tell me where I went wrong and I’ll happily be corrected.

Fair enough, I’ll agree with that.

However for most pays of the year (assuming only MGH), the payslip reflects more of a $107k’ish amount with the odd one above it.

...and a few days ago people were calling out Network F100 FO's for having no respect for the Profession :sad:

I didn’t know that Network had S/O’s :ugh:

How depressing.

You’d struggle to rent a place in Maddington on a QF SO salary as well by the looks

So you really think $120,000 pa would keep you out of the Maddington rental market?

https://www.realestate.com.au/rent/i...rce=refinement

You guys need to see the real world a little more.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....432572b66b.jpg
I'll just leave this here...

well lets see... did a quick calc on standard bills and food. Add in the $500 rental in Maddington, say 1 car loan for a toyota camry. $1380 a week, this includes power, regos, all insurances, food etc...divided between 52 weeks for 2 adults. So enjoy that $235 you have left over at the end of each week, and god help you if you have a hecs debt or children. All for the privilege of renting in Maddington. This country is officially a f..king joke!

Wow $890k pa in Aussie dollars and the shortage has only really started within the last 12 months. I never had any ambition to fly in the Middle East or Asia but to live in the US and earn that kind of money definitely has my attention.

$720AUD for narrow body command ain’t bad either especially considering time to command at the moment is 18 months. The last few vacancies at American and United had unfilled 737/320 command slots.

No jet pilot should live in conditions like that.

Aim higher. You're better than Maddington.