How many? I know there's been a few who have said no to start dates.

Rumour late last year was that 6 SO's went to Atlas. That's the last I've heard.

Will be comparing the seniority lists when it's updated in July out of genuine curiosity.

Correct 6 passed up a start date and already regretting that decision. Just like all the expats who have left Australia for “greener pastures”. Yet they still try and sell living in the US as some magical experience.

As per my previous post - recruitment will continue but will slow for the next 12 months. 787 fleet is stable, yet to see where the numbers fall when SFO and NY start in a few months. 787 and 330 back to MGH.

380 still 12 months away until we see 2 more return. Direct entry SO on Z scale to happen next month

Recruitment for the 350, we all know where that stands. An aircraft not due for the best part of 3 years - the 330 will carry a surplus so they can hire onto the Z scale conditions in the meantime.

If you’re an internal…good luck mid 2024 seems likely

That is a very broad statement and theoretically untrue...

Apologies…99% of them.

330 is back to MGH because 2 are out for maintenance, and HKG can’t supply enough ground handlers to have 2 A330 flights a day.

And how many to EFA? Meanwhile freight rates aren't what they planned on any more

I personally know about 10 guys flying in the USA at the moment. Close friends too, not distant. All loving it.
In fact one went there years ago before the hype and has returned for family reasons to fly for a subsidiary here in Oz. Biggest regret of his life. Already considering going back.

This has been my experience too. Australia is not the utopia that the die hards insist it is, it’s quite literally a middle of the road joint in which to exist.

https://michaelwest.com.au/sharehold...ers-and-staff/

If the sort of things in this article are deemed to be ok, nay, applauded and encouraged industrial behaviour, it’s going to get a lot worse.

I don't think anyone is saying that flying in Australia is utopia.

But the majority of people born here are more than happy to settle down and make a career at home. Some may have different dreams, and the flexibility and motivation to travel to other countries and jump through their hoops! Good for them.

Having done the hard yards with foreign licensing and getting to know your new neighbours, there's plenty of incentive to make a go of it.
But it won't work out for everyone.

that's a really well written news story for Aviation related matters

Ain’t independence grand?

Speaking to a friend recently they told me JQ has taken some new FOs straight from QGPA in Toowoomba, first job, fresh CPL/MEIR. Straight into the right seat of a A320. This doesn't have next major accident written all over it does it? I wonder if the line training Captains know that they will be basically single pilot ops for quite some time while the guys/gals slowly work their way up from past row 30 over the course of many many months. It seems ridiculous in a country with such a well developed GA industry that they think this is the best they can get.

Wow.

Let’s not forget aviation in Europe. Most of their first jobs are the right seat of a B737/A320. Absolutely no difference here.

A pilot is a product of the company who trains them, the QF group have a good reputation in this instance and the decision making of these individuals will come in due course.

They will be perfectly safe operators.

I don’t even want to think about the dive salaries will continue too take…

For all of Jetstar's many faults and incompetence, the training department are very good at doing this. Won't be an issue. The one thing they do much better than Qantas.

Do you realize Jetstar has been hiring pilots with a bare CPL/MECIR and some with sub 200 hours since approximately 2011? Many of whom now have commands and some are even the training captains themselves now.

but but but GA experience!

Except for the bastard criticising RSL's, I'd rather hang out in a rissole than a qantas lounge any day, especially Friday arvo at happy hour, or when the Mentals are playing.

Why would it have accident written all over it? It’s not a space shuttle :rolleyes:

As others have just said, you realise that Jetstar has been doing it for a number of years right? And a fair majority of the world also does it? And actually you know what, I reckon if you did a search of air transport jet hull accidents over the years, you wouldn’t find many where the FO had 200hrs.

what a ridiculous comment, who says the 200 hour recruits aren’t ‘the best’ Jetstar can get. Working in GA doesn’t guarantee the person is some kind of aviation hotshot.