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In the past a lockout would be (and was) the only way to stop drawn out PIA. But as we have all seen, the IR landscape has changed and an Intractable Bargaining application can painlessly stop further PIA.
So if Qantas don’t want to give you scope and you can’t force the issue with PIA, what is your move? I’m fairly certain the FWC won’t serve it up in a determination. So do you accept the terms of the lowest subsidiary in exchange for scope? Now that surely would be a pyrrhic victory.
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Scope would be great, and as has been pointed out, mainline took PIA a decade ago to achieve it. But Qantas would rather ground the whole operation and blow over $200 million, than give it to us. Your post shows exactly why they will never allow it. The last thing they want is T&C’s matching the US majors.
In the past a lockout would be (and was) the only way to stop drawn out PIA. But as we have all seen, the IR landscape has changed and an Intractable Bargaining application can painlessly stop further PIA.
So if Qantas don’t want to give you scope and you can’t force the issue with PIA, what is your move? I’m fairly certain the FWC won’t serve it up in a determination. So do you accept the terms of the lowest subsidiary in exchange for scope? Now that surely would be a pyrrhic victory.
In the past a lockout would be (and was) the only way to stop drawn out PIA. But as we have all seen, the IR landscape has changed and an Intractable Bargaining application can painlessly stop further PIA.
So if Qantas don’t want to give you scope and you can’t force the issue with PIA, what is your move? I’m fairly certain the FWC won’t serve it up in a determination. So do you accept the terms of the lowest subsidiary in exchange for scope? Now that surely would be a pyrrhic victory.
They will bleed cash and be all over the media.
Aircraft will be parked all over the country. Business and public will realise our worth.
stop starting subsidiaries to destroy our hard earned conditions. Government is having to implement IR laws to stop the blatant manipulation of staff.
Sure they can force an eventual determination, but that will take months or even years.
imagine the chaos in between.
QF would be hundreds of millions better off with ONE seniority list and ONE business. Imagine the millions or even billions saved on training, retention, efficiencies, IR, HR etc.
Stop manipulating your loyal staff with gross outsourcing. Stop destroying a great airline.
you grubs don’t deserve to be part of our national carrier. The selfish destruction of the place is abhorrent.
I’m absolutely confident it will work.
after years of games and abuse, I say…
BRING IT
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I get that you’re (rightfully) angry but a strategy has to be based in reality.
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My throat feels sore after dealing with a busy week of flying in a network we no longer have any support. Penny pinching while everything falls apart.
I feel sorry for the passengers enduring management’s on going stupidity.
Might just “vote no” on next week’s roster.
I feel sorry for the passengers enduring management’s on going stupidity.
Might just “vote no” on next week’s roster.
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Anyone who's contemplating going down that route would be well advised to do their homework on the cost of living in Hong Kong vs the salary package. Also examine the "contract"; most of the benefits are "policy" and can be changed at the sole discretion of the company. There is little or no protection under Hong Kong employment law.
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Not yet. There’s a preliminary hearing in May to determine what the agreed position is for the starting point to narrow what the commission will have to make a determination on. Probably a way to go and the stack of resignations is getting steadily taller.
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