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Can anyone confirm that F100 FO's are on $107k AUD?, I see them advertising, if so what other allowances, duty pay etc / bonus do they get? I think the award is more? am I missing something?
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Interestingly the base salary for a cleaner with ESS (the people that Network Pilots often fly to and from site) is $117K.
These are the people cleaning the marks off the toilet bowls and wiping the stains off the donga shower walls.
These are the people cleaning the marks off the toilet bowls and wiping the stains off the donga shower walls.
As a general rule those high paid low skill jobs are 10 to 12 hour days, 2 weeks on 1 week off, not much of a life
Do not forget the Zero Turning All Burning Inverted Space Shuttle re-entry required whenever you do a Line or Sim Check.
Suddenly 28 off in 84 (7 day blocks) @ 5% higher wage for an entry level job sounds like more of a life than 24 off in 84 (2 day blocks) - plus you'll be a Lifetime Platinum flyer with higher upgrade priority in much less (if ever) time
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I hate this mentality, by no means is flying a jet an easy job, highly specialised and us guys in Aus have to fight tooth and nail for the job in the first place with years built up flying banged up machines and managing to not blow the wings off in sometimes awful places with terrible wages. Why shouldn't we be entitled to the same as other pilots get elsewhere?
The unfortunate reality in Australia is that there are too many pilots. Not to mention all the expats who have international jet experience. Until those things change salaries aren't going to go up. And if they do then the airlines will lobby the government to open up to international candidates. There needs to be a serious supply crunch to change the current circumstances. A proper third domestic airline in Australia may do this.
I hate this mentality, by no means is flying a jet an easy job, highly specialised and us guys in Aus have to fight tooth and nail for the job in the first place with years built up flying banged up machines and managing to not blow the wings off in sometimes awful places with terrible wages. Why shouldn't we be entitled to the same as other pilots get elsewhere?
Many say that as pilots we are our own worst enemy. I agree with that to a certain extent. I however believe the biggest culprit to our abysmal wages is our weak as pi$$ Unions. Our union leaders have no fight in them. Our unions need a clean out, fresh blood is needed asap, and the members needs to start pushing hard for this to happen.
Good luck with that.
What I can say that in the last decade I have been a union member I would have had no less than 50 interactions with them, and most of the time walked away disappointed. I got to the point that I felt like a pest. Looking back most of the issues I brought up were valid, but unfortunately the union put it in the too hard basket.
You can have the full backing of the rank and file, but without solid leadership and guidance from a strong union we are not united.
Nunc est bibendum
What I can say that in the last decade I have been a union member I would have had no less than 50 interactions with them, and most of the time walked away disappointed. I got to the point that I felt like a pest. Looking back most of the issues I brought up were valid, but unfortunately the union put it in the too hard basket.
You can have the full backing of the rank and file, but without solid leadership and guidance from a strong union we are not united.
The ‘union’ is all of us. It is not just the ‘leadership’ of the union. And it takes all of us to be successful.
Hopefully those who criticise have at least put their hand up at some stage to be part of the solution.
There can be a lot more said about the current industrial situation and certainly a significant pilot shortage in the USA (and the fact that the pilots actually negotiate under the Railway Labor Act of 1926) is of benefit to them. Perhaps that is best left for another day when I have a spare 3-4 hours- so likely not for a couple more years!
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Exactly....and per example, the Atlas Air Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA 2021) consists of 35 Articles topping out at a total of 352 pages - slightly more than the 25 odd pages of the previous expired / outdated / vastly irrelevant Network EBA 
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international jet experience
The unfortunate reality in Australia is that there are too many pilots. Not to mention all the expats who have international jet experience. Until those things change salaries aren't going to go up. And if they do then the airlines will lobby the government to open up to international candidates. There needs to be a serious supply crunch to change the current circumstances. A proper third domestic airline in Australia may do this.
In fact it counts against you because Qantas. But that’s another story, and would quickly be moot if the company decided it needed yet another wedge group to provide downward pressure on wages.
