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walesregent 27th Nov 2022 22:56

Network EBA
 
Negotiations are well underway against an interesting industrial environment (to say the least). Jetstar just voted up an agreement including a BOOT allowance to keep clear of the award. Any thoughts on how this plays out for Network (where the base pay is currently well below JQ’s, so would theoretically need an even bigger BOOT allowance)?

smiling monkey 27th Nov 2022 23:02

Boot allowance? Is that where you get 10% off a pair of RM Williams?

Icarus2001 28th Nov 2022 00:10

Go hard ladies and gentlemen.

If not now when? Flights being cancelled all around the country due to lack of crew AT ALL AIRLINES.

To the media who read this. The airlines are trying to disguise the current state of crew shortages because it reflects directly on their management practices. Covid gets the blame for almost everything, including lost luggage. Shine the torch in there and find the REAL story.

Good luck to Network crew.

Alice Kiwican 28th Nov 2022 00:21


Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 11338379)
Boot allowance? Is that where you get 10% off a pair of RM Williams?

I’d vote for that……

1234fly 28th Nov 2022 01:30

Company won't even have a Christmas party due to "covid" what a disgrace....

Buttscratcher 28th Nov 2022 02:43

Keep it simple and piggy-back J*
Nothing less

Jester64 28th Nov 2022 02:58

Especially on the verge of a global pilot shortage...US subsidiary regionals are now offering the equivalent of an AUD 235K bonus just to join. I'm sure a few years back when they were negotiating their contracts the pilots were told that the airline couldn't afford more than a 2% or 3% pay rise...point being they can.


aussieflyboy 28th Nov 2022 05:22

The QF IR Playbook states that they are to threaten to outsource your work to Alliance/NJS/QLink and also offer you the ‘opportunity’ to operate the 2nd Tranche of A220.

soseg 28th Nov 2022 05:35

Christmas Parties aren’t included in a 5 page bare-bones EBA. It’s the sacrifice they have to make to secure the Winton A321s. “Strategic Imperatives”.

FN4567 30th Nov 2022 01:45

Who actually cares. But not what I heard - it still is happening just a dif month,

Jack D. Ripper 30th Nov 2022 13:01

JQ had S/O’s and cascading ratio’s to help lift their case.

Network do not.

Whilst Network pilots continue to feed off the promotion / new type promise, they will continue to be given the scraps.

Add to that new management all round, all desperate to make their mark…… good luck

Buttscratcher 3rd Dec 2022 06:13

....and what new type would that be, Jack?

aussieflyboy 3rd Dec 2022 06:39


Originally Posted by Buttscratcher (Post 11341432)
....and what new type would that be, Jack?

2nd round of A220s coming your way Network pilots!!

PoppaJo 3rd Dec 2022 07:06

Yeah as hand me down, engineering nightmares in about 20 years time. As above, they get the scraps.

aussieflyboy 3rd Dec 2022 07:20

Where the Bin Chickens are a majestic creature sorting through waste to select only the finest of foods, the Seagulls of the West live in the sand scrapping for the old chips.

Buttscratcher 3rd Dec 2022 08:15

A220s??
Seriously??
And why would anyone in Network possibly be interested in that toy?
I thought you were going to say A330s

dr dre 3rd Dec 2022 21:28


Originally Posted by Buttscratcher (Post 11341478)
A220s??
Seriously??
And why would anyone in Network possibly be interested in that toy?
I thought you were going to say A330s

Network pilots at one point reckoned they were going to be flying the 321XLR. Or the first batch of A220s (although that rumour may have credence as I heard NJS management were hinting to NJS pilots they may possibly put the 220 in Network as a tactic to get NJS pilots to vote up that EA earlier this year).

Network's entire model is to fly aircraft that are at the end of their high daily density RPT life and operate them on low daily density charters, which is not where you put brand new aircraft.

But they keep getting told by their superiors that there's "heaps" of new aircraft "just around the corner", so stay here for a command and don't jump ship. Isn't working apparently as a whole bunch just jumped ship to Atlas, and dozens on the mainline hold file too. A lot who came from HK during Covid looking to go elsewhere too apparently.

PoppaJo 3rd Dec 2022 21:56

The Network and VARA models are designed to maximise earnings from mining contracts whilst keeping costs as low as possible. The model is built around cheap leases and labour. Sure, they could throw new aircraft out west, but margins will head south. Those who are pushing the line that new toys are coming have been brainwashed. Pull your head in and wake up.

You would be better off jumping the fence to Virgin who from what I gather is merging with mainline minus the Airbus. Whilst mainline crews have taken a haircut in recent times , certainly is more favourable in the longer run especially if one wants a left seat east coast base. Network Left seat is a dead end job.

ebt 5th Dec 2022 01:59

Although it's not a fait accompli, but if Qantas gets the ACCC over the line to take over Alliance then it will play the NJS, Network and Alliance drivers off each other to get the best deal for the shiny new things coming along in the sub-150 seat segment. I can imagine that Alliance gets all the F100s to keep the rest of the fleet going and gradually replaces them with the E190s, leaving Network as the cheap A320 operator using the hand-me-downs from JQ.

airbus4lyfe 13th Dec 2022 16:11

Can someone share information regarding the breakdown of pay and benefits from the EBA? What does a first year FO make on both types?
Thank


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