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Am I wasting my time here? Maybe. But this is a serious forum, read and contributed to by professionals. People who know when to listen and learn. And how to read between the lines.
They know exactly what I am talking about and sooner or later, one of them is going to start asking the right questions.
They know exactly what I am talking about and sooner or later, one of them is going to start asking the right questions.
Am I wasting my time here?
But this is a serious forum, read and contributed to by professionals. People who know when to listen and learn. And how to read between the lines.
They know exactly what I am talking about
If you want to be an international man of mystery go right ahead but when you get ridiculed don't blame other people.
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Am I wasting my time here? Maybe. But this is a serious forum, read and contributed to by professionals. People who know when to listen and learn. And how to read between the lines.
They know exactly what I am talking about and sooner or later, one of them is going to start asking the right questions.
They know exactly what I am talking about and sooner or later, one of them is going to start asking the right questions.
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… also from psychological POV it doesn't fit any known human behaviour.
If we know anything about human behaviour it is that it holds an infinite number of ways to surprise by acting in a new and unthought of way. Think about the 2001 flights in to the world trade centre. Unheard of before it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
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Doesnt fit? Really? Are you aware of the German wings murder suicide? Are you aware of the Palembang murder suicide? Less well known is the Egyptair crash.
If we know anything about human behaviour it is that it holds an infinite number of ways to surprise by acting in a new and unthought of way. Think about the 2001 flights in to the world trade centre. Unheard of before it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
If we know anything about human behaviour it is that it holds an infinite number of ways to surprise by acting in a new and unthought of way. Think about the 2001 flights in to the world trade centre. Unheard of before it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
I am here for conversation, not argument. My apologies to anyone I have offended.
If I appear to be anything other than an amateur researcher with information to share
I can see how that would happen.
There is a story, but the media had no interest in it and neither did anyone else. Foreign country,
politics, religion and other things we tend to sweep under the carpet. And it is complicated.
Suicide, mass murder, airplane disappearance. That does not happen because someone’s lover was unfaithful. It is the kind of story investigative journalists would spend months uncovering
in former times. I found enough to know what happened but of course I can’t talk about it here.The first mention of the wrong topic on this or any forum would end it before it began.
Regrettably, no one cares. It appears to be a better tale of unsolved mystery than one of sordid
facts of life and hard ugly truths. For me, the attraction was the puzzle and the search for the solution. All I wanted to do here was pass this on to anyone else who likes that sort of thing. It really is a superb story.
Interesting parallels between MH370 and C19.
MH370
A highly specific mechanical failure which took out all communications and pressurisation, but left other flight systems intact
Versus
Malfeasance and human involvement
C19
Sudden appearance of a virus with many odd features (including a furin cleavage site and a spike with a higher affinity for human than any animal ACE2 receptor) AND with no animal host found after 3 years of looking
Versus
A human engineered virus emerging in a city where AND when US was funding precisely this research.
In both cases, a preponderance of circumstantial evidence and Occams razor points strongly towards the 2nd explanation.
However in both cases there has been obfuscation by officials, political influence, and censorship which have kept trying to prop up the first explanation.
Interesting.
MH370
A highly specific mechanical failure which took out all communications and pressurisation, but left other flight systems intact
Versus
Malfeasance and human involvement
C19
Sudden appearance of a virus with many odd features (including a furin cleavage site and a spike with a higher affinity for human than any animal ACE2 receptor) AND with no animal host found after 3 years of looking
Versus
A human engineered virus emerging in a city where AND when US was funding precisely this research.
In both cases, a preponderance of circumstantial evidence and Occams razor points strongly towards the 2nd explanation.
However in both cases there has been obfuscation by officials, political influence, and censorship which have kept trying to prop up the first explanation.
Interesting.
Doesnt fit? Really? Are you aware of the German wings murder suicide? Are you aware of the Palembang murder suicide? Less well known is the Egyptair crash.
If we know anything about human behaviour it is that it holds an infinite number of ways to surprise by acting in a new and unthought of way. Think about the 2001 flights in to the world trade centre. Unheard of before it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
If we know anything about human behaviour it is that it holds an infinite number of ways to surprise by acting in a new and unthought of way. Think about the 2001 flights in to the world trade centre. Unheard of before it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990
there is also a confirmed turn to Australia after he cleared indonesian FIR, if he wanted to crash the plane somewhere far he wouldn't bother to do that turn
facing the huge stress and possibly a resistance inside the plane he might have changed his decision along the way and really suicided himself, but I highly doubt that would be his original plan
this really has nothing to do with those cases,
there is also a confirmed turn to Australia after he cleared indonesian FIR,
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I posted it online, including here, and my posts were deleted immediately. I spelled it out and sent it to the media. Dead silence. But everyone I told in person agreed with the facts and came to the same conclusion.
You only have to look in two places to figure it out for yourself, as no doubt many, many others have. It will not be found in the media anytime soon, and you will see why as you learn more.
There was a court case shortly before the pilot’s final departure. He was there, and left “ visibly
upset” according to witnesses. Know what that case was about and how and why the pilot was
involved and you will have half the story.
The flight data recorder contains the other half. Obviously, the pilot did not want it to be found. He was not alone in that.
It took me about three days. You should have it in a matter of hours.
You only have to look in two places to figure it out for yourself, as no doubt many, many others have. It will not be found in the media anytime soon, and you will see why as you learn more.
There was a court case shortly before the pilot’s final departure. He was there, and left “ visibly
upset” according to witnesses. Know what that case was about and how and why the pilot was
involved and you will have half the story.
The flight data recorder contains the other half. Obviously, the pilot did not want it to be found. He was not alone in that.
It took me about three days. You should have it in a matter of hours.
I don't have a graphic but it's assumption also made by investigators based on pings and max speed/range of the plane, if he wanted to go somewhere unnoticed he would turn further from Australia not closer to it
You might say that only someone of superior intelligence could join the dots and solve the mystery; that may be true, although it’s not for me to say.
I don't have a graphic but it's assumption also made by investigators based on pings and max speed/range of the plane, if he wanted to go somewhere unnoticed he would turn further from Australia not closer to it
You only have to look in two places to figure it out for yourself, as no doubt many, many others have. It will not be found in the media anytime soon, and you will see why as you learn more.
There was a court case shortly before the pilot’s final departure. He was there, and left “ visibly
upset” according to witnesses. Know what that case was about and how and why the pilot was
involved and you will have half the story.
There was a court case shortly before the pilot’s final departure. He was there, and left “ visibly
upset” according to witnesses. Know what that case was about and how and why the pilot was
involved and you will have half the story.
Now, what else happened just a week or two before MH370 flight?An ethiopian copilot has successifully hijacked the plane to Italy and landed in another country(Switzerland). So I am quite sure that story couldn't pass by the captain as he was proven aviation enthusiast and it sure went through his head many, many times during those two weeks, maybe he just wanted to imitate the action.
also if he searched about it, it would quickly lead him to the website of unsuccessful Ethiopian hijack in 1996 which had Australia as a destination for seeking asylum...
besides he was old enough (16yo back then) to remember hijacking of Malaysian MH653 which happened in 1977 and hijackers also changed the destination country but that one crashed
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I may have said earlier that this is for the folks who like this sort of thing. If its not for you that’s fine but why do you feel the need to shoot the messenger just because drift data or whatever else you prefer does not support it? I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. There is nothing in this for me.
This is not a theory, or some brilliant idea. I am just an old airplane driver looking to see what happened here, same as you. I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t. What I found was a puzzle that did not fit together very well, but I like puzzles. I stayed with it until I figured it out. It was not easy.
You want me to tell you the story, but what do you have if I do. A crock of BS from some old geezer with too much time on his hands. Do it the hard way and you learn things Google can’t teach you and other people will not believe.
This is not a theory, or some brilliant idea. I am just an old airplane driver looking to see what happened here, same as you. I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t. What I found was a puzzle that did not fit together very well, but I like puzzles. I stayed with it until I figured it out. It was not easy.
You want me to tell you the story, but what do you have if I do. A crock of BS from some old geezer with too much time on his hands. Do it the hard way and you learn things Google can’t teach you and other people will not believe.
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It is very likely the location is known.
SBIRS scans the entire global surface every 8 seconds looking for missile launch signatures. It has a higher resolution continuous tracking mode for anything of interest.
that’s how they knew which corner of which field the missile shooting down MH17 was launched from.
SLOW WALKER (1970s) demonstrated the ability to track (sliw) USSR bombers using the precursor of SBIRS. Think what happened to sensor technology, satellite coverage and computer processing in 50 years.
https://everything2.com/title/SLOW+WALKER
The plane was flying for hours after it was reported missing. You think no one looked?
Inmarsat may well be a cover for this. If US wanted to create a plausible alternative explanation for some data, they may well turn to UK.
For some reason, we don’t want to find that plane.
SBIRS scans the entire global surface every 8 seconds looking for missile launch signatures. It has a higher resolution continuous tracking mode for anything of interest.
that’s how they knew which corner of which field the missile shooting down MH17 was launched from.
SLOW WALKER (1970s) demonstrated the ability to track (sliw) USSR bombers using the precursor of SBIRS. Think what happened to sensor technology, satellite coverage and computer processing in 50 years.
https://everything2.com/title/SLOW+WALKER
The plane was flying for hours after it was reported missing. You think no one looked?
Inmarsat may well be a cover for this. If US wanted to create a plausible alternative explanation for some data, they may well turn to UK.
For some reason, we don’t want to find that plane.
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I may have said earlier that this is for the folks who like this sort of thing. If its not for you that’s fine but why do you feel the need to shoot the messenger just because drift data or whatever else you prefer does not support it? I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. There is nothing in this for me.
This is not a theory, or some brilliant idea. I am just an old airplane driver looking to see what happened here, same as you. I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t. What I found was a puzzle that did not fit together very well, but I like puzzles. I stayed with it until I figured it out. It was not easy.
You want me to tell you the story, but what do you have if I do. A crock of BS from some old geezer with too much time on his hands. Do it the hard way and you learn things Google can’t teach you and other people will not believe.
This is not a theory, or some brilliant idea. I am just an old airplane driver looking to see what happened here, same as you. I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t. What I found was a puzzle that did not fit together very well, but I like puzzles. I stayed with it until I figured it out. It was not easy.
You want me to tell you the story, but what do you have if I do. A crock of BS from some old geezer with too much time on his hands. Do it the hard way and you learn things Google can’t teach you and other people will not believe.
Because he knows what he has is…
They are his words. Just another wacky theory based on snippets of data linked together illogically.
You want me to tell you the story, but what do you have if I do. A crock of BS from some old geezer with too much time on his hands.
I may have said earlier that this is for the folks who like this is not for you that’s fine but why do you feel the need to shoot the messenger just because drift data or whatever else you prefer does not support it? I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. There is nothing in this for me.
….I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t.
….I just happened to look somewhere maybe you didn’t.
When pressed, the ‘research’ they rely upon is invariably unconvincing- a crackpot website or YouTube ‘documentary’ - and the real reason for the reticence is revealed - they know that their evidence is weak.
Some sort of confirmation bias or motivated reasoning is usually involved. On the web, you can find support for almost any idea you may have.
Even a look at this thread will show people who are just as convinced as you are that they have the answers. All but one theory is wrong.
But we’re all just spitballing here, and it’s certainly fascinating for a dabbler like me to follow a reasonably friendly discussion by genuinely knowledgeable people.
I do find it frustrating when people make unsupported claims though.
this really has nothing to do with those cases, this guy was a fervent opponent of Malaysian dictatorial government and there is a high likelihood he wanted to see the result of his action (making them look stupid by overflying the country), he practiced landing on CI with big planes on his simulator and likely wanted to request the asylum there (as there is already an asylum centre), facing death penalty in his own country Australia probably wouldn't extradit him to Malaysia
there is also a confirmed turn to Australia after he cleared indonesian FIR, if he wanted to crash the plane somewhere far he wouldn't bother to do that turn
facing the huge stress and possibly a resistance inside the plane he might have changed his decision along the way and really suicided himself, but I highly doubt that would be his original plan
there is also a confirmed turn to Australia after he cleared indonesian FIR, if he wanted to crash the plane somewhere far he wouldn't bother to do that turn
facing the huge stress and possibly a resistance inside the plane he might have changed his decision along the way and really suicided himself, but I highly doubt that would be his original plan