QF mandates Vaccine
Originally Posted by kingRB
Didn't take long for the segregationist bigots to appear.
How do we know your boy wasn't being an irresponsible little shit that resulted in his arm getting broken? No, I wouldn't expect anyone who's sick to defer to your boy or your self righteous bullshit.
Why don't you tell us some more on how you'd like society to run in different tiers and castes though - we're all ears.
You're a hypocrite, plain and simple. Keep playing mental gymnastics though to try and justify it to yourself.
How do we know your boy wasn't being an irresponsible little shit that resulted in his arm getting broken? No, I wouldn't expect anyone who's sick to defer to your boy or your self righteous bullshit.
Why don't you tell us some more on how you'd like society to run in different tiers and castes though - we're all ears.
You're a hypocrite, plain and simple. Keep playing mental gymnastics though to try and justify it to yourself.
Imagine being so stupid as to parade around declaring that 'seat belts are a Government conspiracy to take our liberty!'. Then, when you predictively have a minor accident resulting in major injuries, demanding to be given the same priority as other, non idiot people who need care for injuries/ailments. Ailments there were not absolutely preventable. "Segregationist bigotry!" you'd cry! "How dare I not be allowed to clog the health system with my idiocy."
People in the US are dying because of a lack of ICU capacity, due in significant part from moron anti vaxxers who are now in ICU.
If you reject the vaccine because facebook told you its bad, then end up needing ICU because of your idiotic decision, there will come a time when you're rolled onto the street and left to die, because care should be reserved for those who care for themselves. Absolutely no different to being on the organ donor list. Smoke? Drink? Bad luck, you're bumped off the list for someone who doesn't. You going to cry 'segregationist bigotry' there too? Those evil doctors aren't letting liver transplant applicants drink a bottle of red a day!? Who are they to take my freedoms!
www.sorryantivaxxer.com is filled, and I mean filled with examples of your thinking. All of them are dead, most leave behind young children. Hundreds of thousands of them.
Enjoy Nov 15 kiddo.
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Look on the bright side das.
You are going to move a few numbers on the seniority list when we open up and let the virus take its normal course.
Its quite extraordinary that so many cant imagine what its like to be on a ventilator..
Hopefully the riots in Melbourne will be a super-spreader event.
You are going to move a few numbers on the seniority list when we open up and let the virus take its normal course.
Its quite extraordinary that so many cant imagine what its like to be on a ventilator..
Hopefully the riots in Melbourne will be a super-spreader event.
Originally Posted by kingRB
Why don't you tell us some more on how you'd like society to run in different tiers and castes though - we're all ears.
Originally Posted by kingRB
Pretty sure I won't end up in the ED, the hospital, or the ICU for Covid - ever. So nah.
I'd say you've been on the Covid fear porn too long - but that's being too generous.
I'd say you've been on the Covid fear porn too long - but that's being too generous.
No one cares if you end up in hospital from Covid or not.
No one cares if your vaccinated or not.
People will care if you do end up in the ED from Covid and are not vaccinated. You will be the butt of all the jokes in the nurses lunch room. They will apologise to the real patients and say we’ve been dealing with this unvaccinated muppet all day.
Man up and simply stay away from the hospitals if you get sick.
Originally Posted by Torukmacto
Unvaccinated accept they won’t be able to travel , go into a restaurant or attend sports events but they draw the line at not being allowed to attend a hospital ?
Mach, I don't understand, you don't have to get a vaccine so what is the problem. You do you and be comfortable with your decision, respect those who want to get vaccinated. Either side is not going to convince the other that they are right or wrong, if you are not happy with mandates etc then you are just out of luck, the majority is speaking and your choice is something you have to reconcile. I am more than happy for people who don't want the vaccines to be removed from the aviation industry, who needs them? I remember one of my core law courses, it was titled 'Rights and Responsibilities, it would seem you want the rights but are not willing to provide any of the responsibilities expected as part of a functioning society, that is your choice now off into the sunset you go.
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
Mach, I don't understand, you don't have to get a vaccine so what is the problem. You do you and be comfortable with your decision, respect those who want to get vaccinated. Either side is not going to convince the other that they are right or wrong, if you are not happy with mandates etc then you are just out of luck, the majority is speaking and your choice is something you have to reconcile. I am more than happy for people who don't want the vaccines to be removed from the aviation industry, who needs them? I remember one of my core law courses, it was titled 'Rights and Responsibilities, it would seem you want the rights but are not willing to provide any of the responsibilities expected as part of a functioning society, that is your choice now off into the sunset you go.
Originally Posted by skygeek
You are confusing responsibilities with obeying to questionable medical diktat without any real long-term supporting safety data. That's not responsibility, that's irresponsibility. I do truly prey it works out for you and for others who are in the same camp, but don't call it being responsible and call it for what it is - "gambling with your life to please the bosses so that the paycheck doesn't stop".
As I have stated time and time again, it is your choice to not partake in this collective effort but don’t get worked up at some of your freedoms being taken away, if you don’t contribute to the solution you shouldn’t get the full benefits of freedoms the rest of us gain back. I know that it is highly unlikely that I will die from COVID even if I get it but I also know me being vaccinated helps ensure those who can’t be vaccinated will have the best possible chance of not getting Covid whilst also helping to ensure our health system retains capacity to deal with other issues. The latest reports in the British Medicinal Journal show that of the 50,000 ish deaths in the first half of this year only 0.5% were people who were FULLY vaccinated, to me this is very positive as the majority of deaths will come from the unvaccinated which solves two problems at once, removes antivaxxers from society and lifts the overall vaccine rate :-). Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
… this is very positive as the majority of deaths will come from the unvaccinated which solves two problems at once, removes antivaxxers from society and lifts the overall vaccine rate …
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Originally Posted by skygeek
You are confusing responsibilities with obeying to questionable medical diktat without any real long-term supporting safety data. That's not responsibility, that's irresponsibility. I do truly prey it works out for you and for others who are in the same camp, but don't call it being responsible and call it for what it is - "gambling with your life to please the bosses so that the paycheck doesn't stop".
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
Sotrovimab has been approved for use in people older than 12.
Trial had zero deaths and zero ICU patients - Trial was on high risk persons.
Trial had zero deaths and zero ICU patients - Trial was on high risk persons.
Correct but due to numbers more vaccinated are getting into that category particularly the high risk persons.
I wonder if this treatment is more or less effective depending on vaccination status? - serious thought - as one is mimicking the spike proteins the other is trying to smother.
I wonder if this treatment is more or less effective depending on vaccination status? - serious thought - as one is mimicking the spike proteins the other is trying to smother.
Watching the "Project" last night and they had a clip of film where some one had urinated on the Shrine, so they said, the film then switched to a very brief look at a pile of some thing on the Shrine with out stating what it was, to me it looked very much as though some one had defecated. I mean, really? You're a real bunch of nutters in desecrating a memorial to all those who served, and to those who gave all in the process, you have no place in society, I'm being as polite as possible.
Reading on Twitter this morning they threatening to vandalise the Shrine today . They are obviously a small group of right wing extremists , hijacking the anti vaxer , union movement for their own reasons . Paid to bring anarchy to the streets ?
Originally Posted by Bend alot
Correct but due to numbers more vaccinated are getting into that category particularly the high risk persons.
I wonder if this treatment is more or less effective depending on vaccination status? - serious thought - as one is mimicking the spike proteins the other is trying to smother.
I wonder if this treatment is more or less effective depending on vaccination status? - serious thought - as one is mimicking the spike proteins the other is trying to smother.
What’s got me confused is why all the anti-vaxxers are opposed to the vaccine, yet love these treatments that have the same characteristics as the vaccine, they were approved under emergency use, limited testing, manufactured by “big pharma”, have a risk of side effects.
All rational people would prefer to use a product to stop them acquiring a health condition, rather than get the health condition and then become so sick they need specialised treatment to combat that condition.
