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Old 27th Oct 2021, 03:20
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Lots happening, maybe smarttraveller not updated quite yet?

Dunno, he's done his research, doesn't want to quarantine and the available medical insurance on arrival looks legit.

Also said when the February flights announced took a couple of days for porn* BC to only have 2 seats left so looks like there will be demand from some/many who are vaccd and decide to get on with life.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 03:29
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The DFAT warning will hold current until borders officially open and then countries, provinces, cities will have more specific warnings if Covid is a risk factor.

The insurance companies will take your money, as the condition on insurance just says that the DFAT warning is not current at 'time of travel', and to postpone or change travel to that location if it is. It's your responsibility to ensure you comply with terms and conditions of travel at the required time. Insurance, Warranties, etc are worth nothing if the fine print is not complied with.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 03:34
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Originally Posted by galdian
Lots happening, maybe smarttraveller not updated quite yet?
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That update was issued on Monday.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 03:37
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I would say DFAT will not be updated until 1st of November when you are allowed to travel without an exemption. We are still under a blanket ban for travel so DFAT reflects that. That does not mean the advice will definitely change then, but it can't until that date.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 05:47
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Originally Posted by logansi
No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.
Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 07:36
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Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
Yeah and we have to be double vaxxed to leave. WTF.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 21:04
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Yeah and we have to be double vaxxed to leave. WTF.
I'm guessing that would be to ensure you are double vaxed when you return…...
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 02:50
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https://www.traveller.com.au/austral...warning-h1zfok

DFAT to remove global do not travel warning.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 03:16
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Originally Posted by Koizi
https://www.traveller.com.au/austral...warning-h1zfok

DFAT to remove global do not travel warning.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with Indonesia.

They just released a travel advice on Monday (24/10) affirming "Do not travel" for Indonesia.
Why would you do that if you intended to remove it just four days later???

Right hand not knowing................... etc??
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 05:20
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Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 08:30
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I'm guessing that would be to ensure you are double vaxed when you return…...
Sure. But to then allow unvaccinated tennis players to enter? Seems a tad hypocritical.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Cloudee
Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
OK so where's the 2022 Oz open going to be held?

Perth's a no-go, Sydney the most obvious as probably most obliging, perhaps Brissie or Adelaide outside bets??

No offence to other capitals but difficult to handle the scale of the event.

I am of course assuming that Chairman Dan would never renounce that which he has announced!
Cheers

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Old 28th Oct 2021, 13:02
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Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
How did Dan overrule the PM?
One controls the State borders the other controls the International borders.
Your statement would have credence if Dan overruled the decision on the international borders.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 00:26
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I don’t think there is actually any contradiction.

Scotty said “same rule for everyone, no exceptions” - and that rule is unvaccinated entry is allowed, you just need 14 days’ quarantine.

Dan said “same rule for everyone, no exceptions” - and that rule is you must be vaccinated to attend or participate in the Australian Open.

So Novak is welcome to come and watch the Australian Open on TV from quarantine at the Tullamarine Holiday Inn, but that’s as close as he’ll get to it.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 00:29
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
You following events in the USA?
The USA is bad right now. I can tell you it is nowhere near as bad as Australia and NZ. We have relinquished some freedoms here, but down under you people are lost. You will NEVER get back the freedoms you have given away so easily. I have traveled to almost 100 countries and previously loved both A & NZ, but I wouldn't go back now if you gave me a free first class ticket.

Oh wait, you wouldn't let me in anyway since I haven't taken the mandatory poison...
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 00:40
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Originally Posted by AceMT
The USA is bad right now. I can tell you it is nowhere near as bad as Australia and NZ. We have relinquished some freedoms here, but down under you people are lost. You will NEVER get back the freedoms you have given away so easily. I have traveled to almost 100 countries and previously loved both A & NZ, but I wouldn't go back now if you gave me a free first class ticket.

Oh wait, you wouldn't let me in anyway since I haven't taken the mandatory poison...
Oh well I guess 750,000 dead, the biggest mass death event in US history, is the trade off.

Could you list the “freedoms” Australia supposedly has given away? From your statement you seem to be in the US and relying on American media for your view of Australia, perhaps you watched Tucker Carlson’s show to form your view.

If you’re talking about vaccines for entry a non US citizen needs proof of vaccination to enter the US as well you know.

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Old 29th Oct 2021, 01:06
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Could you list the “freedoms” Australia supposedly has given away? From your statement you seem to be in the US and relying on American media for your view of Australia, perhaps you watched Tucker Carlson’s show to form your view.
Well lets start with the freedom of movement within your own country without restriction or prejudice. Then let's look at the powers that Daniel Andrews wants passed in Victoria. When are these "emergency powers" going to end around the country? What is the trigger to even end them? Even the most lefty American would be horrified by what is going on here, it's a joke.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 01:24
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...And the freedom of an Australian citizen to return to his or her own country.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 02:22
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Originally Posted by dr dre
If you’re talking about vaccines for entry a non US citizen needs proof of vaccination to enter the US as well you know.
Ahhhh no. This is NOT a requirement to enter the USA. Any arrival over 2 years old MUST have a negative PCR test and sign a form to state they have done a test or had COVID in the last 3 months.

No requirement to be vaccinated (even as non-citizen).

However the CDC “recommends” if you are unvaccinated, you isolate and get another test after arrival.

Unlike Australia, “recommend” is not enforced, I’ve travelled to the USA twice this year with family, we were never asked about our vaccination status.



Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
...And the freedom of an Australian citizen to return to his or her own country.
Hear, hear!!!

“oh but you were always allowed to return”…..

If you were travelling for business (company pays) or you were a single traveller, yes. But if you didn’t have the cash, forget it ($50,000+ for a family).

Is that the “egalitarian” country we all thought we lived in???
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 03:09
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Originally Posted by aviation_enthus
Ahhhh no. This is NOT a requirement to enter the USA. Any arrival over 2 years old MUST have a negative PCR test and sign a form to state they have done a test or had COVID in the last 3 months.

No requirement to be vaccinated (even as non-citizen).

However the CDC “recommends” if you are unvaccinated, you isolate and get another test after arrival.

Unlike Australia, “recommend” is not enforced, I’ve travelled to the USA twice this year with family, we were never asked about our vaccination status.
Well next time you go the USA as a non citizen you will have to show proof of vaccination (rules commencing 8th November 21. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ir-travel.html

What You Need to Know
  • You must be fully vaccinated to travel to the United States by plane if you are a non-U.S. citizen, non-U.S. immigrant (not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, or traveling to the United States on an immigrant visa). Only limited exceptions apply.
  • You are required to show a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery from COVID-19 when you travel to the United States by air. The timing of this test depends on your vaccination status and age.
  • Wearing a mask over your nose and mouth is required in indoor areas of public transportation (including airplanes) traveling into, within, or out of the United States and indoors in U.S. transportation hubs (including airports).
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