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Old 21st Aug 2021, 01:49
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Gladys keeps speaking in riddles it gives me a headache. Switched over to Dan at least itís bloody clear and straight to the damn point.
"Can I just say, look, can I just say for one more time, that we are following the health advice, please! please! please! stay home, the health advice says this is beatable. Can I just say please! please! please! we are all in this together."
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 01:52
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And its being held in a smaller room so they fit in less reporters and there for less questions and assuming only the tame ones get invited
The ABC ones. Always Bloody Correct.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 02:46
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Protests in Sydney and a larger one in Melbourne. Wonderful….
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 02:51
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...ated/100394760

WTF is wrong with our media? This should be a positive story. Yes, case numbers in Israel have spiked significantly but guess what? Deaths are right down compared to ďa non-vaccinated Israeli populationĒ Itís buried deep within the story.

Australia has fck all hope with ABC spreading fear and continuing to focus on case numbers. I too wish we could eliminate COVID, we thought we could, Iím glad we gave it a go, but itís not going to happen. Accept it Australia.
The media is part of all the fear mongering and unfortunately 95 percent of Australians just follow what comes out of the square tube and refuse to think for themselves !!!
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:05
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The media is part of all the fear mongering and unfortunately 95 percent of Australians just follow what comes out of the square tube and refuse to think for themselves !!!
Thankfully that is complete crap and MOST Aussies WILL be vaccinated in the coming months. Add to that MOST Aussies followed the rules and kept the death toll to a minimum while we reached that target. Those that didn't did not change anything, except possibly increase the death toll slightly and lengthen the lockdowns, thanks to those selfish individuals we went from a relatively open vaccination period to martial law. The media is completely to blame for vaccine hesitancy and SloMo for putting all eggs into one vaccine at the start causing a slower rollout. As for anti vaxxers, they are what they are, always there for ANY vaccine and not able to be delt with as they are not rational. Protesters are led mostly by a small group of Anti-vaxxers combined with anarchists playing games with the populace. I mean seriously you get Nazis protesting occasionally, I'm not particularly worried about them coming back to power, so a few hundred even thousands out of 5 million in each state protesting lockdowns ain't really news. Community sentiment is definitely way against them even to the point of thinking they are just mindless idiots. This is not BLM with 10s of thousands protesting that actually makes them look like a reasonable segment of the community.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:07
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
I gave up listening to the pressers about 1023 iterations ago. Thereís only so many ways to say the same thing, and journos seem to be just looking for words to hang the politicians on. Itís very Ďdepressingí.
Why do they even need a daily press conference? Just inflating their own self importance, especially people like CHOs who no one even knew existed before this mess.
Simply publish a press release with the numbers, reinforce the current restrictions, and only appear when itís absolutely necessary. The non-conforming public arenít listening to the politicians anyway!
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:12
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Thankfully that is complete crap and MOST Aussies WILL be vaccinated in the coming months. Add to that MOST Aussies followed the rules and kept the death toll to a minimum while we reached that target. Those that didn't did not change anything, except possibly increase the death toll slightly and lengthen the lockdowns, thanks to those selfish individuals we went from a relatively open vaccination period to martial law. The media is completely to blame for vaccine hesitancy and SloMo for putting all eggs into one vaccine at the start causing a slower rollout. As for anti vaxxers, they are what they are, always there for ANY vaccine and not able to be delt with as they are not rational. Protesters are led mostly by a small group of Anti-vaxxers combined with anarchists playing games with the populace. I mean seriously you get Nazis protesting occasionally, I'm not particularly worried about them coming back to power, so a few hundred even thousands out of 5 million in each state protesting lockdowns ain't really news. Community sentiment is definitely way against them even to the point of thinking they are just mindless idiots. This is not BLM with 10s of thousands protesting that actually makes them look like a reasonable segment of the community.
plus 1 ! Well said
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:15
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Why do they even need a daily press conference?
I can attest that standing up and facing your people/customers when something goes wrong is far more effective than a press release. They can look you in the eye, and feel more relaxed about what you saying is true, and from your own mouth, whatever. Daily briefings I would say is expected by the older of the community, as a mark of respect that they are paying attention and acknowledging what is going on.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:18
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
Give it a rest would you. They canít deal with the outbreak by looking in the rear view mirror. If people arenít compliant, thatís not the governmentís fault, is it? This constant sniping and heckling of the government(s) is just wasting bandwidth.
We really don't mind, really it gives extra thrust to our "we told you so" statement.
17% of the population don't give a shit, they are in every state, NSW and VIC have the biggest population so therefore have the most of them. Reining them in now because you didn't apply your lockdowns to everyone will be almost impossible.
Set them all free, take the fuel away permit vehicles only, enforce the borders, that's all you can do now.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:35
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Expect more of this to comeÖ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...urne/100396458

People really starting to lose the plot
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 03:58
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Expect more of this to comeÖ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...urne/100396458

People really starting to lose the plot

Carrying signs saying Ď vaccine killsí and calling people waiting for a Covid test .. sheep.

Lockdown is not causing them to lose the plot.. they have not been right in the head for a long time.. probably since their mother dropped them at birth.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 04:08
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How many days you been in lockdown since this all began SOPS?

I donít support their behaviour but I donít think you are one to judge if they are/are not losing the plot.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 05:17
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I don’t support their behaviour but I don’t think you are one to judge if they are/are not losing the plot.
I've come across a few of the organisers of this stuff by association with friends. The leadership group spread completely fabricated material about the government wanting to murder its population and using vaccines to control us, etc etc wild conspiracy stuff. Lots of anecdotal evidence of "I knew xx who died of xx and they had xx vaccine". Then the old mental health thing that the government is not telling the truth about suicides and business failures. It's basically cult mentality where they all just listen to one guy overall and spread their message. With of course a few tag-a-longs with their families to fill out numbers. Thing to look out for, if all your information is being fed by one individual or small group leading you all, you might just be in a cult.

There are of course a few lost individuals in the group that feel genuinely about this.

The feel in my community (in Melbourne) is that they would have all these protesters jailed if they could.

I spent a lot of time undoing the rot with family and friends that have fallen for their stuff, thankfully they are coming round to vaccinate soon.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 05:30
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Foxxster wrote:

832 for NSW today. 825 local plus 7 from overseas.
But with the incubation period, these are figures from 7-10 days ago. Cases seem to double every couple of weeks so unless the circuit breakers work, which they show little sign of doing, reported cases in NSW could be over 1200 per day by the end of the month. Real cases are probably 1200+ now but we just don't know yet.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 05:46
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Foxxster wrote:

But with the incubation period, these are figures from 7-10 days ago. Cases seem to double every couple of weeks so unless the circuit breakers work, which they show little sign of doing, reported cases in NSW could be over 1200 per day by the end of the month. Real cases are probably 1200+ now but we just don't know yet.
Cases have been doubling weekly now not weeks.

In fact cases are now doubling every 6 days. Reducing as each day passes, so we are now in surge mode.

Not sure how she will spin her words as she does when we start cracking the 0000s. You canít have 2/3000 cases a day and keep spinning the same bullshit as she does for the next 2 months. Those are resignation numbers.

Andrews gave weddings across regional Vic today 120 mins notice to wrap it up. Gladys gave them half a week.

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Old 21st Aug 2021, 05:55
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Cases have been doubling weekly now not weeks.

In fact cases are now doubling every 6 days. Reducing as each day passes, so we are now in surge mode.

Not sure how she will spin her words as she does when we start cracking the 0000s. You canít have 2/3000 cases a day and keep spinning the same bullshit as she does for the next 2 months. Those are resignation numbers.

Andrews had Weddings today 120 mins to wrap it up. Gladys have them half a week.
1000's a day is called living with it. If you're uncomfortable with it and not vaccinated go get AZ.

Time to move on and stop reporting case numbers.

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Old 21st Aug 2021, 06:03
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1000's a day is called living with it. If you're uncomfortable with it and not vaccinated go get AZ.

Time to move on and stop reporting case numbers.
Why are people uncomfortable with it? The shitshow of many departments that reside in Canberra is purely to blame.

I get the point. The day will soon arrive. We need to know about case numbers in the short term, as we are largely still unvaccinated, and so Sydney can start planning how overrun the health department is about to be in the next 3 months.

People donít want AZ and there is nothing we can do about thatís, just accept it, and now we start to deal with the fallout from waiting for PZ. Iíve had AZ and so has all my kids who are under 40.
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 06:11
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Not sure how she will spin her words as she does when we start cracking the 0000s. You canít have 2/3000 cases a day and keep spinning the same bullshit as she does for the next 2 months. Those are resignation numbers.
I sound like a Gladys apologist, but what will her pulling the pin achieve? Yes she should have locked Sydney down sooner - no argument there, but they had no reason to believe their previous successes with the Alpha variant wouldn't be replicated against Delta. We now know that to be false, but you live and learn....

The UK daily figures (with 87.4 / 76.0% vaccinated) are for 37,314 cases & 114 deaths today (Source). The UK population is 68.2M. Australia's population is 25.8M (37.8%) & NSW's is 8.2 (12%). Apply those percentages to the UK numbers, and you'll be in for a surprise - 14,000 daily cases Australia-wide, and 4,400 in NSW alone! And remember - those numbers are in a population that is within 4% of our ultimate vaccination target.

Iceland a country of just 368,000 people, has achieved 71% of the total population fully vaccinated, and 84% of those 12+ are fully vaccinated (Source). And their current caseload? 61 new cases today, against a 14-day average 369/100K (Source). Extrapolate those numbers to our population and you get 4,200 new cases today - and a 14-day average of 95,000 cases (or 6,800 a day). And they're at 84% fully vaccinated for everyone over 12!

But don't worry if you live in Western Australia - Mark McGowan can stop it! He's said so!
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 06:24
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
It's basically cult mentality where they all just listen to one guy overall and spread their message. With of course a few tag-a-longs with their families to fill out numbers. Thing to look out for, if all your information is being fed by one individual or small group leading you all, you might just be in a cult.

You mean such as Dan disciples, McClown cart followers, unelected Ďexpertsí, bureaucrats and large sections of the media?
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Old 21st Aug 2021, 06:32
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People donít want AZ and there is nothing we can do about thatís, just accept it, and now we start to deal with the fallout from waiting for PZ. Iíve had AZ and so has all my kids who are under 40.
I've done both shots of AZ, I would have chosen AZ anyway, all our health professionals recommend AZ purely because the method for producing it has been around for decades, yes there are risks there always has been with every vaccine. PZ has risks too, this swelling issue around the heart muscle can't be good. It hasn't gone unnoticed that has been played down to the point we don't even hear about it anymore, probably because of the fear it will go the same way as AZ with respect to hesitancy.
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