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Old 26th Oct 2021, 23:09
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Originally Posted by 43Inches View Post
Why should a state have to share it's royalties?

Most states have mineral resources they can take advantage of, why is NT, SA and QLD which are mineral rich unable to take advantage of these deposits like WA? Are they all just stupid except for WA?

I get pissed off my tax goes to subsidise Joyces and Palmers crap in QLD.
Precisely.

But some like to obfuscate the royalties and taxation (GST) arguments.
Your state attracts billions in royalties therefore you shouldn't get any of your GST contribution back.

Eh????

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Old 26th Oct 2021, 23:15
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I'm in Victoria we only get 80 cents in the dollar back on taxes, those 3 states I mentioned get the lion share because of, relative size and scope of infrastructure, which is BS. Population is as much a driver of costs as physical land area. Considering how much emphasis Barnaby puts on coal as an industry in QLD, why is it the state needs to be subsidised by the others.

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Old 27th Oct 2021, 01:44
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As a South Australian I love it that you convict states pay us through the GST. LOL.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 02:36
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Originally Posted by mostlytossas View Post
As a South Australian I love it that you convict states pay us through the GST. LOL.
There is ample justification for the equitable re-distribution of SOME of the wealthier states taxation.

But for those who think re-distributing 63% is fair (Mattias and Joe even wanted 70%) I would remind you of the outcome of the little clash between the American colonies and the Crown a couple of hundred years ago.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 03:32
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
To a degree I think you just have to ignore WA, things will change only when interested parties indicate their concerns/problems to MM and he finally decides to "pivot", draw your own timeline.

Some of that maybe - second hand - but a friend from east coast wanted some travel, initially booked Porn* early April to Bali, now early Feb and required covid insurance for $80.00 available on arrival, imagine have to be supported/underwritten by the Indonesian government.
As with all insurance "read the fine print" but believe that's what's available.

Along with the WA mining companies staff shortages there'd be more than a few locals wondering why east coast can fly to Bali - but WA can't.
And yet, Smartraveller advises :

You must apply for a visa in advance of travelling to Indonesia. Contact your nearest Indonesian Embassy or Consulate for information. To enter Indonesia, travellers aged 12 and above must have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 at least 14 days before travel. You must have evidence of medical insurance coverage for COVID-19. Local authorities may also require you to install and use the COVID-19 ‘Peduli Lindungi’ app. You must meet COVID-19 testing requirements and quarantine at a hotel for five days in the city of arrival. Contact your travel provider for up-to-date details.

We continue to advise:

Do not travel to Indonesia, including Bali, due to the health risks from the COVID-19 pandemic and the significant disruptions to global travel.
Yeah, I can hardly wait.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 04:20
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Lots happening, maybe smarttraveller not updated quite yet?

Dunno, he's done his research, doesn't want to quarantine and the available medical insurance on arrival looks legit.

Also said when the February flights announced took a couple of days for porn* BC to only have 2 seats left so looks like there will be demand from some/many who are vaccd and decide to get on with life.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 04:29
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The DFAT warning will hold current until borders officially open and then countries, provinces, cities will have more specific warnings if Covid is a risk factor.

The insurance companies will take your money, as the condition on insurance just says that the DFAT warning is not current at 'time of travel', and to postpone or change travel to that location if it is. It's your responsibility to ensure you comply with terms and conditions of travel at the required time. Insurance, Warranties, etc are worth nothing if the fine print is not complied with.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 04:34
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Lots happening, maybe smarttraveller not updated quite yet?
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That update was issued on Monday.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 04:37
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I would say DFAT will not be updated until 1st of November when you are allowed to travel without an exemption. We are still under a blanket ban for travel so DFAT reflects that. That does not mean the advice will definitely change then, but it can't until that date.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 06:47
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Originally Posted by logansi View Post
No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.
Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 08:36
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
Yeah and we have to be double vaxxed to leave. WTF.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 22:04
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
Yeah and we have to be double vaxxed to leave. WTF.
I'm guessing that would be to ensure you are double vaxed when you return…...
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 03:50
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https://www.traveller.com.au/austral...warning-h1zfok

DFAT to remove global do not travel warning.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 04:16
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Originally Posted by Koizi View Post
https://www.traveller.com.au/austral...warning-h1zfok

DFAT to remove global do not travel warning.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with Indonesia.

They just released a travel advice on Monday (24/10) affirming "Do not travel" for Indonesia.
Why would you do that if you intended to remove it just four days later???

Right hand not knowing................... etc??
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 06:20
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
Scotty from Marketing has overruled this and is saying they can come into Aus. Got to love consistency.
Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 09:30
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
I'm guessing that would be to ensure you are double vaxed when you return…...
Sure. But to then allow unvaccinated tennis players to enter? Seems a tad hypocritical.
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Old 28th Oct 2021, 12:02
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Originally Posted by Cloudee View Post
Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
OK so where's the 2022 Oz open going to be held?

Perth's a no-go, Sydney the most obvious as probably most obliging, perhaps Brissie or Adelaide outside bets??

No offence to other capitals but difficult to handle the scale of the event.

I am of course assuming that Chairman Dan would never renounce that which he has announced!
Cheers

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Old 28th Oct 2021, 14:02
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Vic Premier Dan has overruled Scotty and said unvaccinated tennis players won’t be competing in Victoria.
How did Dan overrule the PM?
One controls the State borders the other controls the International borders.
Your statement would have credence if Dan overruled the decision on the international borders.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 01:26
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I don’t think there is actually any contradiction.

Scotty said “same rule for everyone, no exceptions” - and that rule is unvaccinated entry is allowed, you just need 14 days’ quarantine.

Dan said “same rule for everyone, no exceptions” - and that rule is you must be vaccinated to attend or participate in the Australian Open.

So Novak is welcome to come and watch the Australian Open on TV from quarantine at the Tullamarine Holiday Inn, but that’s as close as he’ll get to it.
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Old 29th Oct 2021, 01:29
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Originally Posted by Slezy9 View Post
You following events in the USA?
The USA is bad right now. I can tell you it is nowhere near as bad as Australia and NZ. We have relinquished some freedoms here, but down under you people are lost. You will NEVER get back the freedoms you have given away so easily. I have traveled to almost 100 countries and previously loved both A & NZ, but I wouldn't go back now if you gave me a free first class ticket.

Oh wait, you wouldn't let me in anyway since I haven't taken the mandatory poison...
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