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Old 26th Oct 2021, 06:13
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So Dan Andrews last week: unvaccinated tennis players wouldn’t get a visa for Australia.

Today: they can come in unvaccinated but with hard quarantine.

Once again, sports people and celebrities get their own way.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 07:37
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So Dan Andrews last week: unvaccinated tennis players wouldn’t get a visa for Australia.

Today: they can come in unvaccinated but with hard quarantine.

Once again, sports people and celebrities get their own way.
No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 07:45
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No Tennis Australia is saying they can come but the Federal governments saying they won't get a Visa.
Isn't that how ride share entrenched its model in Oz.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 08:06
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
Yep onward and upward. It needs to become fashionable to push aside those still thriving in the wallows of COVID regressiveness and disproportionate caution. There were folks on this thread just months ago, predicting a dire collapse of the NSW medical system and telling us how they were not sending "their" nurses and health workers into the pandemic inferno. Time's up- it's actually now time to build the economy and opportunities for younger generations.
not with this government
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 11:31
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SA open Nov 23.

When will NT and TAS open?

As one open WA closes. West Australians seeing Maui and New York in their feed while they can go to Margaret River and Broome (again).

MMs time is coming.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 12:06
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Not quite sure where this free money is coming from, oh that's right the gov is giving back WA citizens 40 cents in every dollar they pay in taxes.... The rest goes to subsidizing QLD, SA and the NT. Why QLD needs subsidising when they have wondrous COAL who knows... Oh that's right no one needs that stuff anymore so we sell it at close to cost to make it seem like there's an industry and take money from WAs profitable iron ore and gold production to prop up our economy.
”they pay in taxes”…… you mean GST? WA residents don’t pay for all that iron ore do they????
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 12:55
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To a degree I think you just have to ignore WA, things will change only when interested parties indicate their concerns/problems to MM and he finally decides to "pivot", draw your own timeline.

Some of that maybe - second hand - but a friend from east coast wanted some travel, initially booked Porn* early April to Bali, now early Feb and required covid insurance for $80.00 available on arrival, imagine have to be supported/underwritten by the Indonesian government.
As with all insurance "read the fine print" but believe that's what's available.

Along with the WA mining companies staff shortages there'd be more than a few locals wondering why east coast can fly to Bali - but WA can't.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 13:11
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Isn't that how ride share entrenched its model in Oz.
Good point. That subject deserves a thread of its own. Move in to a country, blatantly break the law and then demand the law is changed. They bloody got away with it.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 19:38
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Originally Posted by GoldCoastTobacconist
SA open Nov 23.

When will NT and TAS open?

As one open WA closes. West Australians seeing Maui and New York in their feed while they can go to Margaret River and Broome (again).

MMs time is coming.
Tas opens Dec 15th
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 21:04
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So pretty much the whole country excepts NT and WA by 20/12, with NT joining approx end of Jan. WA ? Who knows, who cares.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 21:42
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Originally Posted by A320 Flyer
”they pay in taxes”…… you mean GST? WA residents don’t pay for all that iron ore do they????
Why would they pay for it? They own it.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 21:46
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Why would they pay for it? They own it.
Hahaha, that made me snort my coffee!

I love your ignorant bliss WingNut!!
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 21:58
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
Hahaha, that made me snort my coffee!

I love your ignorant bliss WingNut!!
OK. Actually owned by the Crown, but the only body empowered to collect royalties on behalf of "the community" is the Western Australian government.
And there is no requirement to share that with any other state.

No GST involved.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 22:00
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The ride share economy is a classic example of the government just waiting for something to break the strangle hold of a powerful institution, taxi companies. They had created a monster they couldn't touch by law by artificially restricting cab numbers and making licence plates worth hundreds of thousands of dollars when the issue fee is a few hundred. Add to that a taxi directorate that was a law unto itself. The situation could have been fixed years ago with unlimited licences available and proper rules and conditions for drivers which would have self stabilised the industry. Instead the money involved led to a corrupt system where drivers made no more than basic wage and plate owners played ponzi scheme with cars. Now you have an unlimited amount of cars with unlimited drivers with no minimum conditions which will just end up eventually in a mess once the novelty runs out.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 22:03
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And there is no requirement to share that with any other state.
Why should a state have to share it's royalties?

Most states have mineral resources they can take advantage of, why is NT, SA and QLD which are mineral rich unable to take advantage of these deposits like WA? Are they all just stupid except for WA?

I get pissed off my tax goes to subsidise Joyces and Palmers crap in QLD.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 22:09
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Why should a state have to share it's royalties?

Most states have mineral resources they can take advantage of, why is NT, SA and QLD which are mineral rich unable to take advantage of these deposits like WA? Are they all just stupid except for WA?

I get pissed off my tax goes to subsidise Joyces and Palmers crap in QLD.
Precisely.

But some like to obfuscate the royalties and taxation (GST) arguments.
Your state attracts billions in royalties therefore you shouldn't get any of your GST contribution back.

Eh????

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Old 26th Oct 2021, 22:15
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I'm in Victoria we only get 80 cents in the dollar back on taxes, those 3 states I mentioned get the lion share because of, relative size and scope of infrastructure, which is BS. Population is as much a driver of costs as physical land area. Considering how much emphasis Barnaby puts on coal as an industry in QLD, why is it the state needs to be subsidised by the others.

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As a South Australian I love it that you convict states pay us through the GST. LOL.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 01:36
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As a South Australian I love it that you convict states pay us through the GST. LOL.
There is ample justification for the equitable re-distribution of SOME of the wealthier states taxation.

But for those who think re-distributing 63% is fair (Mattias and Joe even wanted 70%) I would remind you of the outcome of the little clash between the American colonies and the Crown a couple of hundred years ago.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 02:32
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To a degree I think you just have to ignore WA, things will change only when interested parties indicate their concerns/problems to MM and he finally decides to "pivot", draw your own timeline.

Some of that maybe - second hand - but a friend from east coast wanted some travel, initially booked Porn* early April to Bali, now early Feb and required covid insurance for $80.00 available on arrival, imagine have to be supported/underwritten by the Indonesian government.
As with all insurance "read the fine print" but believe that's what's available.

Along with the WA mining companies staff shortages there'd be more than a few locals wondering why east coast can fly to Bali - but WA can't.
And yet, Smartraveller advises :

You must apply for a visa in advance of travelling to Indonesia. Contact your nearest Indonesian Embassy or Consulate for information. To enter Indonesia, travellers aged 12 and above must have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 at least 14 days before travel. You must have evidence of medical insurance coverage for COVID-19. Local authorities may also require you to install and use the COVID-19 ‘Peduli Lindungi’ app. You must meet COVID-19 testing requirements and quarantine at a hotel for five days in the city of arrival. Contact your travel provider for up-to-date details.

We continue to advise:

Do not travel to Indonesia, including Bali, due to the health risks from the COVID-19 pandemic and the significant disruptions to global travel.
Yeah, I can hardly wait.
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