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No, because the NSW legislation (that you as a pax are unaware of) states you will wear one while in their airspace too.
It would have made more sense if they had just said you must wear one while in flight between two Queensland airports. It makes absolutely no sense to imply you have to wear one to the border then you can take it off. Does the crew now have to announce "We are crossing the border, put your masks on/take your masks off" now?
It would have made more sense if they had just said you must wear one while in flight between two Queensland airports. It makes absolutely no sense to imply you have to wear one to the border then you can take it off. Does the crew now have to announce "We are crossing the border, put your masks on/take your masks off" now?
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Talk about trying “Australianise” the mask rules!!!
Just wear it through the terminal and before the flight deck door is shut. Then take it off!! FFS does this really require multiple posts and hand wringing to figure out?
Otherwise wear one walking around in public areas.
Not that hard really.....
Just wear it through the terminal and before the flight deck door is shut. Then take it off!! FFS does this really require multiple posts and hand wringing to figure out?
Otherwise wear one walking around in public areas.
Not that hard really.....
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Yes, but does the Queensland government have any authority to dictate what happens in the airspace above Queensland?
Al this bovine excreta about jurisdictions is just [email protected]
To hear the stupid questions on local radio this morning about wearing a mask in a gym.
Makes one wonder is there any common sense left or grey matter between the ears.
(Fx2)S just wear the bl00dy thing.
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I don't believe that the Qld Govt is dictating what happens in the airspace above Qld but what is required in an aircraft flying over Qld.
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
Aren't they the same thing? And can they? Is an aircraft in flight subject to the laws of whatever landmass happens to be under it at the time?
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Originally Posted by 601
I don't believe that the Qld Govt is dictating what happens in the airspace above Qld but what is required in an aircraft flying over Qld.
Al this bovine excreta about jurisdictions is just [email protected]
To hear the stupid questions on local radio this morning about wearing a mask in a gym.
Makes one wonder is there any common sense left or grey matter between the ears.
(Fx2)S just wear the bl00dy thing.
Al this bovine excreta about jurisdictions is just [email protected]
To hear the stupid questions on local radio this morning about wearing a mask in a gym.
Makes one wonder is there any common sense left or grey matter between the ears.
(Fx2)S just wear the bl00dy thing.
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!
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Originally Posted by blubak
It seems like there are people out there who have nothing better to do than call radio stations with stupid questions.
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!
She boarded the BNE-PER flight and half way through it WA closed the border. After landing in Perth the passengers were kept in a room
for processing either return flights to BNE or quarantine for 14 days. She never got to the hospital, if she did she would of seen her mums last 6 hours of life.
How distressing. However, McGowan would just shrug his shoulders and say tough luck.
Originally Posted by blubak
It seems like there are people out there who have nothing better to do than call radio stations with stupid questions.
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
Speaking of radio stations and airspace, heard a story last night that a Queensland lady needed to get to Perth because her mum was on her death bed.
She boarded the BNE-PER flight and half way through it WA closed the border. After landing in Perth the passengers were kept in a room
for processing either return flights to BNE or quarantine for 14 days. She never got to the hospital, if she did she would of seen her mums last 6 hours of life.
How distressing. However, McGowan would just shrug his shoulders and say tough luck.
She boarded the BNE-PER flight and half way through it WA closed the border. After landing in Perth the passengers were kept in a room
for processing either return flights to BNE or quarantine for 14 days. She never got to the hospital, if she did she would of seen her mums last 6 hours of life.
How distressing. However, McGowan would just shrug his shoulders and say tough luck.
Mark McGowan:"NSW should look at the other states and territories and follow the majority consensus towards elimination!"
Also Mark McGowan: "It's too dangerous to open our borders to all of NSW, Qld or Victoria - I don't give two hoots that the NT, Qld, SA or Tasmania or the ACT have only declared Greater Sydney a hotspot!"
On a serious note though, I do wonder what his stance is going to be when a vaccine is deployed. Will he allow unrestricted entry to those who show proof of vaccination, or will he continue to peddle the line "Just because you've had a needle doesn't mean you can come in!"
Also Mark McGowan: "It's too dangerous to open our borders to all of NSW, Qld or Victoria - I don't give two hoots that the NT, Qld, SA or Tasmania or the ACT have only declared Greater Sydney a hotspot!"
On a serious note though, I do wonder what his stance is going to be when a vaccine is deployed. Will he allow unrestricted entry to those who show proof of vaccination, or will he continue to peddle the line "Just because you've had a needle doesn't mean you can come in!"
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If China stopped the ore that leaves WA with nothing really and the way it’s going with China it could very well happen. McGoose will have to change his strategy to align with the other states and territories.
Originally Posted by KRviator
On a serious note though, I do wonder what his stance is going to be when a vaccine is deployed. Will he allow unrestricted entry to those who show proof of vaccination, or will he continue to peddle the line "Just because you've had a needle doesn't mean you can come in!"
As far as vaccines go it is more about reaching a critical mass of immunisation before allow relaxing of restrictions, one person could still cause an outbreak in a mostly unvaccinated population, albeit it they will be less contagious if they are infected.
Originally Posted by KRviator
On a serious note though, I do wonder what his stance is going to be when a vaccine is deployed. Will he allow unrestricted entry to those who show proof of vaccination, or will he continue to peddle the line "Just because you've had a needle doesn't mean you can come in!"
Originally Posted by compressor stall
Once again, current data suggests having the vaccine will not stop you acquiring and transmitting the virus. You still get it and can infect others, but your body fights it extra effectively and you don't get (as) sick (and possibly reduce the viral loads to prevent super spreader individuals). Hence, even those vaccinated early on (like presumably international flight crew) will still have to quarantine until such time that enough of the population has been vaccinated so as to not overload the hospital system.
they simply don’t have the data. Yet. Every statement to the contrary is simply a theory.
and it probably won’t be binary (either prevent infections or not) it may be somewhere in the middle.
Hence, even those vaccinated early on (like presumably international flight crew) will still have to quarantine until such time that enough of the population has been vaccinated so as to not overload the hospital system.
Originally Posted by neville_nobody
Since the hospital system is actually being underutilised without a vaccine why is this even a remote concern?
The whole point of the vaccination program is to allow this pandemic emergency to be brought under control so our health care system can cope with normal travel and human interaction. Then we can start to remove travel restrictions.
The vaccine is the only thing that’s going to allow unrestricted travel with no widespread health crisis. I cannot understand why anybody who works in our industry would dismiss or be opposed to this vaccine.
Australia's numbers...
Total cases: 28,634
Total deaths: 909 (3.1%) Some very sick people included in these statistics.
Current active cases: 311 (estimated)
Total hospitalised: 45
Later this year lets look at the suicide statistics for 2020 in Australia.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers
Total cases: 28,634
Total deaths: 909 (3.1%) Some very sick people included in these statistics.
Current active cases: 311 (estimated)
Total hospitalised: 45
Later this year lets look at the suicide statistics for 2020 in Australia.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Australia's numbers...
Total cases: 28,634
Total deaths: 909 (3.1%) Some very sick people included in these statistics.
Current active cases: 311 (estimated)
Total hospitalised: 45
Later this year lets look at the suicide statistics for 2020 in Australia.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers
Total cases: 28,634
Total deaths: 909 (3.1%) Some very sick people included in these statistics.
Current active cases: 311 (estimated)
Total hospitalised: 45
Later this year lets look at the suicide statistics for 2020 in Australia.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...435-1/fulltext
3318 Suicides in 2019
1195 Fatalities in Car Crashes in 2019 yet we all kept driving!!
We also had the Worst Influenza season ever in 2019 with 310 000 people presenting at Hospital with influenza and 910 related deaths.
You need to wait a few years for that to play out. I would bet it will increase if there is a post pandemic economic crunch associated with lack of access to relatives. However if the economy can survive and the States start acting in the national interest it may not be to bad.
1195 Fatalities in Car Crashes in 2019 yet we all kept driving!!
We also had the Worst Influenza season ever in 2019 with 310 000 people presenting at Hospital with influenza and 910 related deaths.
Though the effects of the Pandemic are far from over and will be felt for years to come, this study found no effects on suicide rates for the first 7mths of the pandemic in QLD.
Some of you don't seem to understand logistics and especially supply chains, let alone complex systems.
Covid 19 is not directly lethal, we hope, to the majority of humans. It is indirectly lethal to everyone because it has the capacity to destroy the healthcare system.
You don't seem to understand what the poor doctors and nurses are going through overseas where their systems are under major stress. We need to protect our healthcare system and its workers.
P.S. Anyone want to coomplain how "harsh" "Unfair' "illogical" etc the covid response is now that they founds that cluster in Brisbane? This is a dynamic system.
Covid 19 is not directly lethal, we hope, to the majority of humans. It is indirectly lethal to everyone because it has the capacity to destroy the healthcare system.
You don't seem to understand what the poor doctors and nurses are going through overseas where their systems are under major stress. We need to protect our healthcare system and its workers.
P.S. Anyone want to coomplain how "harsh" "Unfair' "illogical" etc the covid response is now that they founds that cluster in Brisbane? This is a dynamic system.
