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Old 14th Mar 2021, 11:10
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Looks like the voters of WA have been duped.
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Old 14th Mar 2021, 11:46
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
Looks like the voters of WA have been duped.
Still wearing those ****e-coloured glasses I see.
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Old 14th Mar 2021, 11:55
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I don’t get it. The ‘ security guard’ that has sparked the latest out break in NSW was working a 2 different hotels, PLUS he has a full time office job. I thought this stuff had been stopped, and they were only allowed one job. Or have I missed something ??
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Old 14th Mar 2021, 12:15
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I don’t get it. The ‘ security guard’ that has sparked the latest out break in NSW was working a 2 different hotels, PLUS he has a full time office job. I thought this stuff had been stopped, and they were only allowed one job. Or have I missed something ??
Pleeeeeeeeeeeease. Questioning of NSW ist verboten.
Just move along. Nothing to be seen here.
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Old 14th Mar 2021, 19:56
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I don’t get it. The ‘ security guard’ that has sparked the latest out break in NSW was working a 2 different hotels, PLUS he has a full time office job. I thought this stuff had been stopped, and they were only allowed one job. Or have I missed something ??
I asked the same thing yesterday(post 3960).
I didnt think they could work at more then 1 workplace?
No government can monitor their workers 24 hours a day but if the rules have been broken by this guy an explanation is needed,not an excuse!
The people working in these hotels need to take responsibility for their actions,hopefully this doesnt turn into something we dont need or want right now.
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Old 14th Mar 2021, 20:37
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I don’t get it. The ‘ security guard’ that has sparked the latest out break in NSW was working a 2 different hotels, PLUS he has a full time office job. I thought this stuff had been stopped, and they were only allowed one job. Or have I missed something ??
"outbreak"? Its ONE case so far. Hardly an outbreak. Your description has just shown what brainwashing will do. The multiple jobs thing is bull****. Should not be allowed. Yes, the west are stupid. So are the North, South, East and middle. If there's one thing this **** has shown me, it is what a bunch of dumbasses Australians really are. 'Baaaaaaaaaa'. F*&king morons.
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Old 15th Mar 2021, 01:07
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It seems to have gone unnoticed here, but as of today, all borders are open unrestricted across the country.

Lets see how long it lasts...
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Old 15th Mar 2021, 01:27
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Originally Posted by jrfsp
It seems to have gone unnoticed here, but as of today, all borders are open unrestricted across the country.

Lets see how long it lasts...
A day after the WA election. How ironic. Now the WA CHO is talking to the media about 'hotspots' all of a sudden.

WA Chief Health Officer

But despite this: Federally controlled travel bubble with NZ

WA does this: The travel bubble between Australia and New Zealand is managed by the Commonwealth Government, and Western Australia is not included in this travel bubble.

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Old 15th Mar 2021, 02:27
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“Outbreak of one case”

Italy went from 1 case to 170,000 in 6 weeks; New York from 12 to 200,000 in less than 7 weeks.

We’re better prepared now but it can very quickly get away from us.

Probably not quite to our standard of medical care but, at the beginning of this year, Sri Lanka went from <10/day to nearly 1,000/day in a matter of weeks.
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Old 15th Mar 2021, 03:28
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Originally Posted by layman
“Outbreak of one case”

Italy went from 1 case to 170,000 in 6 weeks; New York from 12 to 200,000 in less than 7 weeks.

We’re better prepared now but it can very quickly get away from us.

Probably not quite to our standard of medical care but, at the beginning of this year, Sri Lanka went from <10/day to nearly 1,000/day in a matter of weeks.
If we are not able to handle a small outbreak now without resorting to a full lockdown, the responsible state government should resign. Massive amounts have been spent on contact-tracing protocols that use a 3 ring approach to quarantine any potential outbreak. State Governments need to accept that a small outbreak does not constitute failure; it is reality. Even Victoria should be able to handle an outbreak of 30 to 50 cases now without panic and lockdown.
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Old 15th Mar 2021, 05:26
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Discussion is going on about a travel bubble with Singapore by July.

https://simpleflying.com/australia-s...travel-bubble/

Thailand is looking at no quarantine for vaccinated travellers around the same time.

The door may be slowly starting to crack open,

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Old 15th Mar 2021, 08:53
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Originally Posted by 1A_Please
If we are not able to handle a small outbreak now without resorting to a full lockdown, the responsible state government should resign. Massive amounts have been spent on contact-tracing protocols that use a 3 ring approach to quarantine any potential outbreak. State Governments need to accept that a small outbreak does not constitute failure; it is reality. Even Victoria should be able to handle an outbreak of 30 to 50 cases now without panic and lockdown.
Exactly right!
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 00:28
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Blood clots found in 37 people out of 17 million recipients of AstraZeneca vaccine
A British virologist says international concerns about the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine causing blood clots must be put in perspective.

Associate professor Sterghios Moschos says 17 million people have received the AstraZeneca jab so far and blood clots have been found in just 37 recipients.

10 European nations have now suspended the AstraZeneca rollout, over Norwegian concerns about blood clots. Source
I'm curious...

If 1 or 2 cases in NSW/Vic/SA is enough for WA to reintroduce their hard border what will be a sufficient number of cases for WA to halt the AZ vaccine rollout due to possible adverse side effects?
After all, 1 case in NSW is 1:8,500,000 people. Even two cases is 1:4,250,000. Call it 10 cases and that's definitely grounds for closing the WA border innit? So that's 1:850,000.

However blood clots have been reported in 37 people from 17,000,000 vaccinated. That's 1:460,000.

Reckon the WA CHO will "act with an abundance of caution" and call a stop to the AZ vaccine rollout? After, it needs to be seen in perspective. Can't go risking the health of their state from a couple of cases in a state of over 8 million, but potentially fatal clotting issues with a risk an order of magnitude higher?? No wuckka's mate!
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 01:11
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Originally Posted by KRviator
I'm curious...

If 1 or 2 cases in NSW/Vic/SA is enough for WA to reintroduce their hard border what will be a sufficient number of cases for WA to halt the AZ vaccine rollout due to possible adverse side effects?
After all, 1 case in NSW is 1,500,000 people. Even two cases is 1:4,250,000. Call it 10 cases and that's definitely grounds for closing the WA border innit? So that's 150,000.

However blood clots have been reported in 37 people from 17,000,000 vaccinated. That's 1:460,000.

Reckon the WA CHO will "act with an abundance of caution" and call a stop to the AZ vaccine rollout? After, it needs to be seen in perspective. Can't go risking the health of their state from a couple of cases in a state of over 8 million, but potentially fatal clotting issues with a risk an order of magnitude higher?? No wuckka's mate!
Nebulous? Tenuous? One of the above.


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Old 16th Mar 2021, 03:24
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Originally Posted by KRviator
I'm curious...

If 1 or 2 cases in NSW/Vic/SA is enough for WA to reintroduce their hard border what will be a sufficient number of cases for WA to halt the AZ vaccine rollout due to possible adverse side effects?
After all, 1 case in NSW is 1,500,000 people. Even two cases is 1:4,250,000. Call it 10 cases and that's definitely grounds for closing the WA border innit? So that's 150,000.

However blood clots have been reported in 37 people from 17,000,000 vaccinated. That's 1:460,000.

Reckon the WA CHO will "act with an abundance of caution" and call a stop to the AZ vaccine rollout? After, it needs to be seen in perspective. Can't go risking the health of their state from a couple of cases in a state of over 8 million, but potentially fatal clotting issues with a risk an order of magnitude higher?? No wuckka's mate!
I think you need to draw up two sets of numbers here. One for pre-election, and one for post-election.

On a side note, does this mean that the EU will let us have our shipment of AZ now?
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 05:19
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What hasn’t been said is that these countries are seemingly ignoring real world data from a country that has more experience with the vaccine than them (UK), who found that the prevalence of these clotting findings are actually less in the vaccinated population. There are also events associated with the Pfizer vaccine which seems to have been completely ignored.

The whole world seems to have got themselves into a position that no one gets sick naturally.

By stopping the rollout, they are causing unnecessary deaths.
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 11:52
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Italy went from 1 case to 170,000 in 6 weeks; New York from 12 to 200,000 in less than 7 weeks.


Mistakes were made in early days. In NY Gov Cuomo put Covid patients in nursing homes, we wouldn't do that now.

Both are high density populations and Italy has a social structures that has multi generations under the same roof.

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Old 16th Mar 2021, 13:07
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RE ' The whole world seems to have got themselves into a position that no one gets sick naturally...'

I can honestly say that ...'I used to eat a lot of 'natural foods' , until I found that most people die of 'natural causes'.....

Cheersss.... if you survive......
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 22:27
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In Australia in 2018 there was a death rate of 5 women per 100 000 giving birth, and between 2009 and 2018 251 women died during pregnancy or within 42 of the end of pregnancy.

This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 05:06
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In Australia in 2018 there was a death rate of 5 women per 100 000 giving birth, and between 2009 and 2018 251 women died during pregnancy or within 42 of the end of pregnancy.

This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
I think it would be reduced to 0 if women stopped becoming pregnant, rather than "if people stopped having children".
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