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Old 6th Dec 2019, 21:16
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The company is flashing this 300k figure like itís a bombshell
If the figure was 100k I'm sure there would still be plenty of the public crying unfair.
Perhaps an offer to the company to take a wage freeze whereby every pilot stays in 300k for twelve months should be made in a well publicized media event.

As has been correctly pointed out anyway, public opinion does not not affect the EBA terms and outcome.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 21:47
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Originally Posted by Lapon View Post
If the figure was 100k I'm sure there would still be plenty of the public crying unfair.
Perhaps an offer to the company to take a wage freeze whereby every pilot stays in 300k for twelve months should be made in a well publicized media event.

As has been correctly pointed out anyway, public opinion does not not affect the EBA terms and outcome.
I think an AFAP representative needs to get on TV with Salter/Evens and challenge them on the spot to offer us the 305k for 75 hours a month they've been running around telling every reporter who will listen that it's what we actually get.

That I'd pay to see.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 21:52
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From the SMH;

ĒWe call on the union to put a fair and reasonable agreement on the table that ensures the future of low fares for all AustraliansĒ Gareth Evans, JQ CEO.

Its purely up to you Pilots or else weíre gonna have to charge the Bogans more...

How much does Mr Evans get paid again?. Mr $24 million might have to take a cut if itís that critical? Jetstar is an Amaaaaaaazing business isnít it? Plenty of profits to share around or is that not true now?

Good luck all, you get what you fight for.

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Old 6th Dec 2019, 22:02
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FY19 Gareth Evans 3,979,000

Jetstar is a business of not even $4b. When comparing to other customer facing $4b business such as Kmart, Target, BIGW, Officeworks, these executives earn less than half, even a third of what Gareth does.

Ground Crews earn a hundred grand?
Jetstar has hit back, saying pilots already earn around $300,000 a year and some ground staff get over $100,000. Michael Kaine, the National Secretary of the Transport Workers Union joins us at Sydney Airport.

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Old 6th Dec 2019, 22:42
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Have they asked you to “be professional” yet?
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 23:10
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post

Ground Crews earn a hundred grand?
Just checked the JQ EBA. A year 4 supervisor has a base of $1089 a week plus average loadings of say 30%. To get to 100k they must be doing plenty of overtime. Reality? Part timers with base wage of $22 probably earning 60-70k.
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Old 7th Dec 2019, 04:59
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
Have they asked you to “be professional” yet?
Precisely.

They already pulled out the Ryanair trick of the "impact your action will have on our customers"
Same playbook.

Mr Evans has to cycle through the stages yet: Anger, denial, bargaining and then capitulation.
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 01:54
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In regards to ground crew earning $100k, if that's the case, that's a management issue of not having enough staff to cover the operation. Likewise if there is a group of pilot's earning $300k because of overtime (I don't know what they actually earn) that's a management issue. So if salaries are high because of overtime, the union should try to highlight it as an issue of bad management.

I'm outside of aviation now, but where I work there was a number of staff who weren't replaced but covered on overtime. It might be cheaper to start with than hiring a new employee, but now it's gone on for so long that it must be a cost. People are getting burnt out and while they may do overtime, they are taking sick days on their shifts, so there is even more overtime. If the staffing level was correct then there would be minmal overtime, as it would only be required to cover ad-hoc absences. Because of this I'm likely to earn an additional $18k-20k this year because of overtime and I don't do a lot of it.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 04:12
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I’m told the effects are already been felt with all international services to be cancelled this weekend and 1000 services in January to be cancelled due to the effect on forward bookings. Only time will tell if it’s correct or not.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 05:16
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Originally Posted by dragon man View Post
Iím told the effects are already been felt with all international services to be cancelled this weekend and 1000 services in January to be cancelled due to the effect on forward bookings. Only time will tell if itís correct or not.
Will Little Napoleon call the pilots kamikaze and promptly claim Jetstar in "terminal decline"?

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Old 9th Dec 2019, 07:50
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Originally Posted by dragon man View Post
Iím told the effects are already been felt with all international services to be cancelled this weekend and 1000 services in January to be cancelled due to the effect on forward bookings. Only time will tell if itís correct or not.
Many 78 services this weekend not operating but some still are. Larger cancellations over domestic due aircraft/crew repositioning issues.

I hazard a guess that so called Ďforward bookingsí route cancellations will be poor performing routes taking advantage of the situation. Think Avalon and low season QLD runs.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 11:26
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Friday the 13th...


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Old 9th Dec 2019, 23:17
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I am aware companies will no longer book personnel on JQ. Have seen the memo put out one organisation.
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 04:01
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Thumbs up

Looks like Tiger will now be able to expand .
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 04:07
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If you are worried about what the public think I overheard two people talking today who are not in the industry.
The closing statement to their discussion was “well if only the company would listen to their employees this wouldn’t be happening”.

Bravo
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 04:53
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I assume the Lockout will not be far away.
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 05:27
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I donít think thatíll work again

Jetstar isnít an essential service like Qantas claimed to be

the Trams have had many strikes recently in Victoria and are an essential service, and they continue to strike
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 08:14
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 09:01
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They have ceased taking bookings for all services between Friday to Monday.

Details tomorrow on how they are going to navigate through this with the added addition of the Friday ground crew strikes.

TWU have announced its bans for this Friday across most major airports, stopping for 4 hour periods.

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Old 10th Dec 2019, 23:52
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Getting close now, all the best ladies and gentlemen i can imagine it's stressful as hell, keep your head up whatever happens
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