Jetstar EBA 2019
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People are comfortable with pilots making a decent amount of money and not many view 200k as mega dollars at least in Sydney or Melbourne.
This is an Enterprise Agreement, not a popularity contest, not a political campaign; public sentiment is largely irrelevant.
It is between employer and employee. It will be a business decision that governs what happens next. If it costs JQ too much money they will modify their behaviour, public sentiment won’t come into their calculation.
Not to say you will definitely get the outcome you desire but ignore the noise, fight for what you deserve because if you don’t fight then you have already lost.
Good luck.
It is between employer and employee. It will be a business decision that governs what happens next. If it costs JQ too much money they will modify their behaviour, public sentiment won’t come into their calculation.
Not to say you will definitely get the outcome you desire but ignore the noise, fight for what you deserve because if you don’t fight then you have already lost.
Good luck.
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RESPECT.
This is an Enterprise Agreement, not a popularity contest, not a political campaign; public sentiment is largely irrelevant.
It is between employer and employee. It will be a business decision that governs what happens next. If it costs JQ too much money they will modify their behaviour, public sentiment won’t come into their calculation.
Not to say you will definitely get the outcome you desire but ignore the noise, fight for what you deserve because if you don’t fight then you have already lost.
Good luck.
It is between employer and employee. It will be a business decision that governs what happens next. If it costs JQ too much money they will modify their behaviour, public sentiment won’t come into their calculation.
Not to say you will definitely get the outcome you desire but ignore the noise, fight for what you deserve because if you don’t fight then you have already lost.
Good luck.
Eloquent and accurate 👍🏿
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I think sometimes you have to take some tougher action to get anywhere.
Wasn’t Mr Joyce praised for this a few years ago?
Its not like they are going to find anyone else to under cut you?
Good luck and I hope you guys succeed instead of being trodden on all the time.
Wasn’t Mr Joyce praised for this a few years ago?
Its not like they are going to find anyone else to under cut you?
Good luck and I hope you guys succeed instead of being trodden on all the time.
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I am a long tiime lurker and I registered just to post on this thread. If there is industrial action at Christmas people will blame the Jetstar pilots and hate them with a passion. For the direct personal consequences including financial loss and disruption. It is completely ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Because it is the pilots that have chosen the timing. I'd also say the company is already doing better media on this to ensure the pilots are blamed too.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
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I am a long tiime lurker and I registered just to post on this thread. If there is industrial action at Christmas people will blame the Jetstar pilots and hate them with a passion. For the direct personal consequences including financial loss and disruption. It is completely ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Because it is the pilots that have chosen the timing. I'd also say the company is already doing better media on this to ensure the pilots are blamed too.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Completely wrong, I too have been involved in PIA. There were no such consequences.
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I am a long tiime lurker and I registered just to post on this thread. If there is industrial action at Christmas people will blame the Jetstar pilots and hate them with a passion. For the direct personal consequences including financial loss and disruption. It is completely ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Because it is the pilots that have chosen the timing. I'd also say the company is already doing better media on this to ensure the pilots are blamed too.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Thommo you sound like one of those Alan believers?
I can assure you any negative passenger vibes seen on the nightly news will be forgotten very fast. Impact to revenue will be almost zero.
Lowest fare wins in this demographic. They might be swearing and threatening to never fly this mob again, however on the next Bali or Cooly trip when they have a choice of a $39 Jetstar or $120 Virgin flight.....I wonder who wins.
The media need to ask Gareth if his pilots are the lowest paid Airbus drivers in part of the world. I’d love to see the reply. You wouldn’t get a straight answer out of any manager within the group.
Any quality and decent investigative journalist probably needs to look past the passenger fluffy drama and look into the corporate greed vs lowest paid front line workers within in its industry. Just look at Woolworths recently.
Jetstar also recently stated it has a target of a 21% profit margin in the medium term, which is nearly double the current margin. Adding into the mix it’s outrageous executive remuneration figures, claiming they can’t afford to get its pilots off the lowest paid ladder is beyond absurd.
I can assure you any negative passenger vibes seen on the nightly news will be forgotten very fast. Impact to revenue will be almost zero.
Lowest fare wins in this demographic. They might be swearing and threatening to never fly this mob again, however on the next Bali or Cooly trip when they have a choice of a $39 Jetstar or $120 Virgin flight.....I wonder who wins.
The media need to ask Gareth if his pilots are the lowest paid Airbus drivers in part of the world. I’d love to see the reply. You wouldn’t get a straight answer out of any manager within the group.
Any quality and decent investigative journalist probably needs to look past the passenger fluffy drama and look into the corporate greed vs lowest paid front line workers within in its industry. Just look at Woolworths recently.
Jetstar also recently stated it has a target of a 21% profit margin in the medium term, which is nearly double the current margin. Adding into the mix it’s outrageous executive remuneration figures, claiming they can’t afford to get its pilots off the lowest paid ladder is beyond absurd.
Trento and Stella will be screaming, but when there’s holes in the Bintang singlet and the craving for that Indonesian Pilsner bites, if Jetstar is $10 cheaper. They’ll after pay it and max the credit card on the way up with in flight booze.
I hope JQ get the parity with the other drivers they deserve.
I hope JQ get the parity with the other drivers they deserve.
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If there is industrial action at Christmas people will blame the Jetstar pilots and hate them with a passion.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
Even those people not directly impacted will understand what people are going through and have sympathy. Pilots will be seen as greedy Christmas wreaking bastards.
I don’t think they will. You underestimate how much ordinary people hate corporate leaders. Joyce and henchmen have zero credibility in calling anyone overpaid.
The PIA involves plenty of things with no to minimal impact on passengers and there will still be a couple of 747s laying around if a real strike eventuates.
The PIA involves plenty of things with no to minimal impact on passengers and there will still be a couple of 747s laying around if a real strike eventuates.
A "Strike" is just the old term for industrial action..
Strike action, also called labor strike, labour strike, or simply strike, is a work stoppage, caused by the mass refusal of employees to work.
Which is why PIA is legal under very restrictive criteria and "going on strike" is illegal.
