Jetstar EBA 2019
…..moaning on this thread about how badly treated they are on six figure salaries now bolstered in a recent 21% + + payrise here in the best country on Earth.
Other Qantas group entities with upcoming EA's to be negotiated will be delighted hear this.
Well the AFAP knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again, pushing this through when more favourable IR laws were on the way and have just been passed (https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...27-p5c1km.html)
All just amazing coincident that you'd rush this through. Looks like this union should've been included in that Royal Commission in '14.
All just amazing coincident that you'd rush this through. Looks like this union should've been included in that Royal Commission in '14.
Originally Posted by Slugga
Well the AFAP knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again, pushing this through when more favourable IR laws were on the way and have just been passed (https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...27-p5c1km.html)
Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
Can you share how you think multi-employer bargaining would have actually helped the JQ deal? From everything that I have read on the matter I don’t think this option would have been open to JQ pilots. And even if it were, it would be incredibly complex to try and bargain with QF / VA pilots give the significant differences in their terms and conditions.
Perhaps changing your name to Sergeant Schultzwould be more fitting
Originally Posted by Slugga
Seriously....The threat that QF management has used for years against the group.
Perhaps changing your name to Sergeant Schultzwould be more fitting
Perhaps changing your name to Sergeant Schultzwould be more fitting
It is a serious questions about the new legislative IR changes and how you think this would have affected the JQ negotiation. From everything that I have read, and from mates who work at law firms that specialise in IR - they can’t confidently say how what is being proposed is going to affect bargaining (especially for those employee groups that already have agreements that are currently in force). So I don’t know how you can be so sure in your assertions.
But then again - it’s pretty easy to just read a headline that talks about proposed IR changes, slag off the union and infer that it’s corrupt. 🙄
Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
The threat of having flying transferred to another group was not made during the JQ negotiations.
It is a serious questions about the new legislative IR changes and how you think this would have affected the JQ negotiation. From everything that I have read, and from mates who work at law firms that specialise in IR - they can’t confidently say how what is being proposed is going to affect bargaining (especially for those employee groups that already have agreements that are currently in force). So I don’t know how you can be so sure in your assertions.
But then again - it’s pretty easy to just read a headline that talks about proposed IR changes, slag off the union and infer that it’s corrupt. 🙄
It is a serious questions about the new legislative IR changes and how you think this would have affected the JQ negotiation. From everything that I have read, and from mates who work at law firms that specialise in IR - they can’t confidently say how what is being proposed is going to affect bargaining (especially for those employee groups that already have agreements that are currently in force). So I don’t know how you can be so sure in your assertions.
But then again - it’s pretty easy to just read a headline that talks about proposed IR changes, slag off the union and infer that it’s corrupt. 🙄
Originally Posted by Brakerider
It seems like the new IR changes would benefit Flight Attendant groups more - as they have several different agreements covering employees doing the same job. I can't see the proposed changes affecting any pilot groups.
There are low cost passengers and low cost services, but Boeing and/or Airbus never designed Low Cost Pilot versions of the same type...
Originally Posted by RealSatoshi
Well, let's just start by saying that flying a Boeing 787 = "The Same Job" as flying a Boeing 787 et al.
There are low cost passengers and low cost services, but Boeing and/or Airbus never designed Low Cost Pilot versions of the same type...
There are low cost passengers and low cost services, but Boeing and/or Airbus never designed Low Cost Pilot versions of the same type...
4 different agreements covering the flying of A320 family in the group...
2 different agreements covering Dash 8 operations.
yep, two agreements for 787
4 different agreements covering the flying of A320 family in the group...
2 different agreements covering Dash 8 operations.
4 different agreements covering the flying of A320 family in the group...
2 different agreements covering Dash 8 operations.
