Qantas Recruitment
I think the first A321 commands are slated to be type transfers not promotions as the fleet is introduced, and I don't think there'll be too many in total to start with (I believe only 3 A321s arriving next by the end of next FY). So yes the majority of SH commands will still be slated to be 737 for the next few years, until the A321 hits a critical mass then will become the majority.
But they'll probably still need new pilots onto the 737 as more will leave for LH, and I think it's safe to say they'll still be training pilots onto the 737 in the 2030s. They were training pilots onto the B744 in the late 2010s with that fleet nearing retirement.
But they'll probably still need new pilots onto the 737 as more will leave for LH, and I think it's safe to say they'll still be training pilots onto the 737 in the 2030s. They were training pilots onto the B744 in the late 2010s with that fleet nearing retirement.
Given what management are saying, there should be work for all 737 pilots on the A321 with the increase in back of the clock flying even with a lower amount of airframes.
The 747 pilots at least had the RIN process to fall back on. Based upon management history with subsidiaries who knows what will happen with the remaining 737 pilots (if any are left) at the end of the fleet replacement.
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The recruitment process is a heck of a long ride. All to be rounded out with a sim in the 76 in the later evening.
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
The recruitment process is a heck of a long ride. All to be rounded out with a sim in the 76 in the later evening.
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
I wouldn’t stress too much about the sim. As long as you showed an improvement from start to finish (demonstrating a rate of learning) which means you can be trained, then you’ll be okay.
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The recruitment process is a heck of a long ride. All to be rounded out with a sim in the 76 in the later evening.
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
I don't quite agree with the sim being so late, I was in recently and had been up since 3a.m for a flight that morning and obviously with the pre interview nerves and jitters certainly don't think that my best foot was put forward when it came to what is indeed a taxing sim ride. (Yes yes, people will say have a sleep, but tough to do when you're nervous)
Along with the thousands of dollars applicants put forward for those that aren't Bris based in money towards a suit, accom, travel and of course the need to take a couple of sick days because rosters don't always align!
Can say though, that ALL the people encountered in the Qantas hiring department where superb individuals. I hope if they read this they can pat themselves on the back.
After my sim ride I expect a thanks but no thanks , really not too confident, but I bloody well hope that consideration is placed on the efforts that some people go to to put a good foot forward and/or the time of day that the sim is utilized. I myself was already at the back end of a very long day.
It would be interesting to know if anyone could say or hypothesize the attrition rates at various stages and what the process is for final selection, I'd have thought that the HR panel interview would hold considerable weight when outcomes where delivered? If we are all pilots there is already an acumen to be able to fly or at least a proven record of an adaptability to comply with SOP's etc. (& not hand fly on steam gauges a jet)
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I’ve just been through the assessment day process. We couldn’t actually do the sims straight away, as the sim had broken, and they were trying to get more slots/assessors organised to clear the backlog. (I don’t think there was anyone local on my day - one from US, couple flew in from NZ, Perth etc).
But they did say it doesn’t matter when you do your sim with regards to the hold file - it is based purely on the date you attended the assessment centre. And we were on week 7 of an 18 month recruitment process.
But they did say it doesn’t matter when you do your sim with regards to the hold file - it is based purely on the date you attended the assessment centre. And we were on week 7 of an 18 month recruitment process.
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Gday,
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Gday,
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
if you’ve done the mainline recruitment a while ago and haven’t heard yet, you’ll likely be given the nod. The ol’ no news is good news trick. They tell you pretty quickly if you’re out.
VA has a “young” demographic of pilots, so time to command is increasing and you’ll probably be looking at 20 odd years as they’ve been recruiting massively.
QF has an “old” demographic of pilots, with many retiring in upcoming years and potential new fleet expansion with the A350. Current command time frames on the 737 are decreasing very quickly.
So if it’s career progression you’re after, QF is the way to go. If it’s variety, QF is the way to go.
If it’s domestic, flying 737s with long upgrade times and no look at expansion, VA all the way.
As for pay, the earning potential is much greater at QF. Especially if you were to take 737 day 1.
Honestly no biased opinions. That’s just the way I see it at the moment.
Gday,
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
NJS you simply will not get released due to massive expansion coming combined with the inability to hire people due to poor pay. You would be significantly financially better off accepting Virgin and re-applying for mainline as an external.
Network Aviation will be similar but not as bad as NJS as they are not expanding and will likely shrink.
QLink maybe worth staying as they can hire cadets to replace people.
Jetstar might be ok for the same reason as above.
Gday,
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Hoping anyone could provide their two cents.
Recently got the nod from VA with a potential start date in the next month or two.
Had an interview with mainline recently ( which I haven’t even heard back yet ) . Wondering if it’s worth turning down VA for a potential start date with mainline in 2026-27(if I’m successful )
I’m an internal applicant hence the super far start date.
Whoever gave you that start date made an extremely bad call then.
If you had gone to the other airline, you wouldn’t be in the pain that you seem to be in these days.
2024-24
2025-33
2026-50
2027-65
2028-58
2029-75
2030-55
2031-76
2032-65
2033-82
2034-91
Many will retire younger than 65, so I'd suspect the numbers above would be less than actual retirments.
At the moment seniority numbers are into the 3000's, however from around number 1200 you need to remove 1/3rd of the numbers as every 3rd number is a JQ MOU number (which are not all that relevant anymore, as there arent many left in JQ that are elidgable to take one) so in the 1800 numbers is really only 1200 people.
it was with air north…so whatever you say tool. 24 years with QANTAS, so I’m fine. I just feel sorry for the people at the bottom now.
For internal candidates, remember there is a two year moratorium before being eligible for re-hire within the group.
I didn’t put ANY pressure on them, just made an inquiry about my application and expected timeframe.
QF are very sneaky with the treatment of internal applications. It’s not right.
