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Old 14th Aug 2018, 14:35
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Another hint:

Do your CPL and PPL hour building at night. You need 75 of those bad boys to come over here and every one of them counts, especially if you end up in a day VFR only charter / scenic gig.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 15:10
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The First Officer pay, has been personally explained to me AND it's better than what i expected.
Its not 36 bucks an hour until 76 hours, there's other factors involved and other calculations.
The figures look quite healthy.

Captains pay is as explained by havick previously, at 130k there abouts.

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Old 15th Aug 2018, 20:11
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Originally Posted by LostWanderer
Wow thats cool Havick, I am very impressed if they can pull it off! That is great for the guys and gals there. And truly, I hope it happens for everyones benefit (including my own for selfish reasons!)
But call me a bitter, old, overly suspicious fool...I will believe it when I see it. Temporary visas are an entirely different ballpark and I just can't see how ALPA could be involved in any decision to sponsor/not sponsor a pilot. At my company and most others it is an HR decision and at their entirely at their discretion who they sponsor and for how long they sponsor for...100% removed from ALPA. I honestly don't think ALPA even could (would) come in to bat for someone who the company decided to no longer sponsor on a Visa if they deemed they no longer needed them in that position - E3 legal language is VERY fluid so you don't really have a leg to stand on from a union if the airline decides they no longer wish to sponsor your Visa renewals.

More so, fastest way to peeve off a very large group of heavily unionised US citizen/perm resident pilots...start giving temporary Visa guys their coveted mainline jobs, the union is smart and wont bite the hand that feeds them, especially not for perhaps less than 100 people. I truly love the idea and ALPA's statement of support for the lads...but I think pigs will be flying on Mars before an E3 pilot is sitting in the right seat of a mainline A320/737 etc...via any kind of flow arrangement anyway. Maybe if and when the shortage gets significantly worse.

*Don't shoot the messenger. Just my opinion *

Agreed. Already a bit of mumbling going on with the E3 situation amongst guys at the majors on foreigners taking jobs.
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Old 17th Aug 2018, 13:39
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Interested reading although some of it appears a bit out of date:https://www.aerocrewnews.com/acn/201...N-Aug-2018.pdf
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Old 17th Aug 2018, 19:30
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Originally Posted by Kranz
Didn't realise it was a crime to pose a question. In any case, the gist of my enquiries has been to ascertain more specific information around what each airline is looking for so that I can ensure I spend my training money in the way that best suits the airlines to improve my candidacy for any roles. Whilst you are correct in where I am with my training, I am working towards my CPL and would like to have this within three months (I am dedicating 3 days per week full time to prac & theory and am flying an average of 4 hours a day on each of those three days). I am also enquiring about the airline cadetship routes which include working as a CFI to boost hours to 1500 rather than DEFO. I therefore don't see my requests as being pre-emptive or wasting people's time. But thank you for your comment.

I also received a response from Compass overnight saying they do not sponsor E3's.
Its frustrating that many US companies are unable to think outside their small minded approach.
First, its not "sponsoring", its simply applying for an LCA on a 9035 form, its that phrase
that will get your resume tossed into the garbage fast.

I've seen a number throw in the towel as too difficult without having a clue
what they are talking about.

I've seen everyone in the jail want to go ahead, then one ignorant person with a key role, simply
sends off a form reject letter because they don't like foreigners, when they are a foreigner themselves.
The logic in the USA is that you have very large numbers of people who do not know anything over what is required
as part of their job.

The word is, you can be successful at this process, and if the people doing the hiring
actually have seen the process work previously, then your chances rocket.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 21:23
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So, I assume by the lack of activity on this thread nothing is new on the Aussie-US regional front ? Nothing newsworthy ?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 21:36
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SkyWest is heading for a significant first year FO pay rise which I expect will probably bring even more Aussies out of the woodwork. So far it looks like it will match the highest paying regionals if it goes through later this month.

Aussies are still streaming over. Most captains remark that there are "so many of you here."

They also usually complement our collective flying skills, professionalism and our both practical and impractical knowledge base.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 22:20
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
Aussies are still streaming over. Most captains remark that there are "so many of you here."

They also usually complement our collective flying skills, professionalism and our both practical and impractical knowledge base.
Well done !
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 23:52
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
SkyWest is heading for a significant first year FO pay rise which I expect will probably bring even more Aussies out of the woodwork. So far it looks like it will match the highest paying regionals if it goes through later this month.

Aussies are still streaming over. Most captains remark that there are "so many of you here."

They also usually complement our collective flying skills, professionalism and our both practical and impractical knowledge base.
a lot have also upgraded or near upgrading.
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If voted in, the new pay scales start 1 November. First year pay will be $45 per hour, second year FO $50.

You can see the proposed pay scales here:
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
Keep in mind, the bonus structure will be preserved (Pilot profit sharing, performance bonuses, and financial performance bonuses).
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 08:31
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
SkyWest is heading for a significant first year FO pay rise which I expect will probably bring even more Aussies out of the woodwork.

Aussies are still streaming over.
Found this. Isn't dated so don't know how recent it is. The Skywest website doesn't contain these exact words:

"Be E3 visa eligible"


AviationJobs.Me Flight Crew: CRJ200 Non Type Rated First Officers Skywest Airlines US
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:37
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
If voted in, the new pay scales start 1 November. First year pay will be $45 per hour, second year FO $50.

You can see the proposed pay scales here:
https://uploadfiles.io/hk4xw
Keep in mind, the bonus structure will be preserved (Pilot profit sharing, performance bonuses, and financial performance bonuses).
And a $40,000 USD sign on bonus on top of that. They may still be offering an extra $7,500 USD bonus for previous turbine airline/charter experience. So that’s almost $62K AUD in bonuses just for choosing SkyWest. Not to forget you get a free jet type rating with no bond and no minimum terms of service, excellent training which qualify you for Cat 2 ILS and RNP 0.3 approaches. Don’t know why people would bother applying for turbo-prop operators back in Aus when they can get all this for the cost of an E3 visa ($200).
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 11:20
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No RNP on the CRJ. Maybe ERJ I'm not sure though.

FOs can credit as much as they want if you want to work like a dawg. Comfortable would be 85 but you can go over 100 pretty easy by picking up open time.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 14:29
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SkyWest E175s are RNP approved.

The new contract, if voted in, will give the company the ability to offer up to $40,000 in bonuses, if the company needs it to recruit more pilots. Donít expect the 40k bonus to be offered from day 1. $40,000 will be the cap.

Having said that, a friend of mine is an Australian at SkyWest, and he said he made more money as a flight instructor in Australia, but the cost of living is so much lower here that heís able to save money for the first time in his life.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 10:42
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Commutair has big growth plans. Any Aussies have recent contact with them to see if this is still correct info ?:

E-3 Visa - Home Page
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 15:01
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Hi Bafanguy,

The site is still correct and C5 is flat out getting new drivers. Another 10 jets mininum to be delivered yet, and likely a further 20 if all goes well, which will take the fleet to 61 total by 2020ish. (I think they're taking a new one every 3-5 weeks)

The word is C5 expects to hire another 400 pilots over the next 2 years, which isn't bad when the current total sits around 320 pilots.

If any Aussies want more info on C5 feel free to message me.

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Old 4th Oct 2018, 15:59
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The site is still correct and C5 is flat out getting new drivers. The word is C5 expects to hire another 400 pilots over the next 2 years, which isn't bad when the current total sits around 320 pilots.
DYS,

That's serious growth. Doubling the pilot group in 2 years.

I assume that they also take you right off the boat with Aussie tickets and go from there ? And upgrades are coming at 1000 hours Part 121 ?
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 16:09
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Yeah they pay for you to do the ATP CTP before you start, and do the faa licensing in house. The US guys that are being hired that have 1500 total with 1000 Pic in part 135 ops or 1000 Sic in part 121 are getting upgrade calls before they've even finished their type rating and check ride. For us Aussies you can/will do that in 12 months.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 16:16
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
DYS,

That's serious growth. Doubling the pilot group in 2 years.

I assume that they also take you right off the boat with Aussie tickets and go from there ? And upgrades are coming at 1000 hours Part 121 ?
different company, but when I was hired at Envoy late 2016 they hired nearly 1000 pilots after me in a 12 month period. I only did 3 weeks on reserve as an FO and then again only 3 weeks on reserve as a CA when i upgraded.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 20:07
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Good to know the opportunity is still available for those willing to make the effort. The grapevine has been pretty quiet for a while. Maybe Summer doldrums.
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