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Old 27th Feb 2023, 04:19
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Just to clarify, you do your tax in US and pay tax on rental streams. You then get a credit for that on any Australian tax?

You don’t mean you pay tax twice on rental income?
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Old 1st Mar 2023, 16:09
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Silver Airways still has a section on the pilot hiring page re Australians and E3s. Anyone talked to them lately to see if they're serious ?:

https://www.silverairways.com/careers
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Old 1st Mar 2023, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
Just to clarify, you do your tax in US and pay tax on rental streams. You then get a credit for that on any Australian tax?

You don’t mean you pay tax twice on rental income?
I pay tax on my income in America
that gives me a tax credit
then I do my tax in Australia with the tax credit
which goes towards my income in Australia
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Old 1st Mar 2023, 23:35
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Do you pay tax in America on your Australian ( world wide ) income ?
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Old 2nd Mar 2023, 03:00
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Originally Posted by KAPAC
Do you pay tax in America on your Australian ( world wide ) income ?
no I only pay as I stated in the previous post
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 06:38
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Breeze Airways

Breeze is no longer accepting E3 Pilots from Oz, is this happening generally now over there? Seems things are slowing a little.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 08:25
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Originally Posted by Blueocean505
Breeze is no longer accepting E3 Pilots from Oz, is this happening generally now over there? Seems things are slowing a little.
It's hard to say (I only see the scuttlebutt which may not be 100% fact in all cases) but there appear to be plenty of 1500 hour F/O candidates. The deficit at the regionals is alleged to be DECs or those F/Os with the 1,000 hours Part 121 experience who can upgrade quickly. .

The legacies and LCCs are apparently draining off the regional captains at a great rate leaving plenty of F/Os who either don't want to upgrade or don't have the 1,000 hours.

Or so it's been alleged.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 21:25
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Anyone got info on Ameriflight? They've previously advertised for 1200hr Australian applicants, although not sure how that would satisfy E3 visa requirements.

Currently tossing up regional FO or turboprop command at Ameriflight.
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Old 8th Mar 2023, 21:48
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Originally Posted by idk
Anyone got info on Ameriflight? They've previously advertised for 1200hr Australian applicants...
idk,

Not sure what Ameriflight is doing re E3s from what I can find online. Their current pilot hiring page doesn't mention E3s. But I found this from November, 2022, but too few details to understand it. No mention of how the license would be handled:

https://texas.tarta.ai/j/jMpuoYQBvf0...s-texas-at-fci

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Old 9th Mar 2023, 01:08
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Originally Posted by Blueocean505
Breeze is no longer accepting E3 Pilots from Oz, is this happening generally now over there? Seems things are slowing a little.
Breeze , along with Mesa are no longer recruiting Aussies. Mesa closed that about 2 years ago , breeze put a stop to it around November last year. Both of those operators will continue to renew the current E3s on property, but have no plans to recruit anyone on the program in the near future.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 04:20
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I have a question about the whole E3 thing.

If there is a downturn in the future and US airlines lay people off, is there any reason to think E3 holders wouldn't be the first to go?
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 05:57
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
I have a question about the whole E3 thing.

If there is a downturn in the future and US airlines lay people off, is there any reason to think E3 holders wouldn't be the first to go?
Unlike other countries airlines who have specific contracts or even specific fleets for expats separate to locals, in the US as long as you maintain your working rights you’ll be made redundant in order of reverse seniority (juniority) if it comes to that.

I suppose when your E3 visa is due for renewal the US airline could just not renew it though, but outside that scenario you’re a lot safer than you would be as an expat in Asia for example.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 06:32
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
I have a question about the whole E3 thing.

If there is a downturn in the future and US airlines lay people off, is there any reason to think E3 holders wouldn't be the first to go?
No need to fantasise too much, we can use COVID as an example. US airlines did not furlough E3 visa holders out of seniority order and continued to renew visas. Those furloughed were duly recalled in seniority order when the time came.
Seeing what occured at Virgin and Qantas at that time I would argue that being on the seniority list of a reputable regional, ULCC or ACMI in the States is one of the safer places for job security as an Aussie airline pilot.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 06:39
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Seems that when SHTF the only place you can rely on seniority is in the US.

Meanwhile in Australia multi decade seniority pilots stacking shelves in woolies.

Originally Posted by havoste
No need to fantasise too much, we can use COVID as an example. US airlines did not furlough E3 visa holders out of seniority order and continued to renew visas. Those furloughed were duly recalled in seniority order.
Seeing what occured at Virgin and Qantas at that time I would argue that being on the seniority list of a reputable regional, ULCC or ACMI in the States is one of the safer places for job security as an Aussie airline pilot.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 07:47
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Can any Aussies answer, in an airline like Breeze or Spirit etc, generally how many hours/months is the line training f/o? Do they have a similar ‘check to line’ flight like here? Thanks in advance
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 10:29
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Not an Aussie myself but look at FAA FAR Part 121.434
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 13:06
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Originally Posted by Blueocean505
Can any Aussies answer, in an airline like Breeze or Spirit etc, generally how many hours/months is the line training f/o? Do they have a similar ‘check to line’ flight like here? Thanks in advance
after sims are completed, generally speaking you are paired with a check airman for an entire trip.

IOE usually takes anywhere between 15-40 hours worth of flight time depending on the carrier.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 20:43
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Delta rates to lift all boats




As most of you know, Delta voted up an industry leading contract. I believe this was posted by American's CEO in response to their own negotiations not faring as well.

I very much expect as American and United inevitably vote up Delta rates in the near future, the big E3 carriers (Atlas, Spirit & Frontier) will also up the ante to stifle their own attrition.
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 22:50
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Has Atlas closed the door to E3 for now?
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Old 9th Mar 2023, 23:02
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Has Atlas closed the door to E3 for now?
Yup. (5 characters)
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