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Old 4th Oct 2018, 21:19
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
Good to know the opportunity is still available for those willing to make the effort. The grapevine has been pretty quiet for a while. Maybe Summer doldrums.
to be honest in this particular case no news is good news. At least on the E3/regional front.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 22:04
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E3 hiring is still full steam ahead
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 23:28
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Would not hesitate getting over here on an E3 if you're the slight bit interested, the industry is going bananas. I'm in corporate and they are losing pilots to the airlines like crazy. Major carriers are picking up all the experience corporate and regional guys they can get, leaving regional and corporate bare bones.

Get over while you can !
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 01:24
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Originally Posted by vee1-rotate
Major carriers are picking up all the experience corporate and regional guys they can get, leaving regional and corporate bare bones.
Maybe, depends where you are. Plenty of jobs out there paying more than US regionals for similar experience. It boils down to want you want, airlines arenít necessarily the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 09:42
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Originally Posted by havick
to be honest in this particular case no news is good news. At least on the E3/regional front.
True enough. So I guess there are no regionals now accepting E3s who previously had not ?

That would be newsworthy...
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 20:19
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As an aside for those who would like to make a more permanent move, the green card lottery is now open. As far as I am aware, simply entering into the lottery (and even chosen as a winner) does not signify immigrant intent, however applying for that visa after winning does.

Food for thought.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 12:01
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
As an aside for those who would like to make a more permanent move, the green card lottery is now open.
Can't win if ya don't enter. Lots of Aussies have taken a run at it :

https://www.usagreencardlottery.org/...statistics.jsp
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 14:01
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
Can't win if ya don't enter. Lots of Aussies have taken a run at it :

https://www.usagreencardlottery.org/...statistics.jsp
Don't use that website to enter. Use www.dvlottery.state.gov

Lots of scams out there with regards to this.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 14:44
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
Don't use that website to enter. Use www.dvlottery.state.gov
Ah so...didn't even notice that wasn't a gov website. Scams abound for sure.

I just saw the stats and thought they were interesting.
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Old 13th Oct 2018, 03:42
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First, I'm not (yet) on an E3. You should get a reply from those airlines, Compass, Envoy, Mesa, SkyWest
They all have Australian's working on E3 Visas and for them its about 30 seconds work, prepared forms, all they do is
insert your name and shortly after an "LCA" arrives, the print a boilerplate Job offer, very similar to that for US pilots
and then you take it to the embassy and it will have a very high probability of success.

Now, smaller US operators, who do not look like big airlines do not know anything about an E3 visa.
In particular Most Universities, Colleges, flight schools have not got a clue about E3 and, its a very tough
sell unless you can hand them the paperwork for them to sign.

According to the youtube presenter from the US embassy in Canberra you do NOT need a degree
just 12 years experience if you do not have a degree.

If you have a US ATP then you should be good to go.

The problem arises when you have a degree but want to take a specialist occupation say
like crop spraying, because it does not normally require a degree then you cannot accept that job
and an E3 would not be issued because the job does not qualify.

Every time I explain that I hear WTF.????
Those are the US rules, and it works out very well for Australians who want to fly in the USA
The difference is, Australia will allow American Spray Pilots to work in Australia
as does Canada where Australian pilots do not even need to get a Canadian medical
its, just a foreign licence validation.... Australia does the same.

The USA has its rules that give it an unfair trade and employment advantage
but that's the way it is and its probably going to get worse.

But don't tell Donald Trump, he will suddenly realize that the United States is bleeding pilots and especially Instructors.

There is hardly a flight school in the USA that is not desperate for instructors.

Originally Posted by Kranz
To get back on topic - I contacted a few of the airlines who are offering E3 sponsorship from the list previously posted in this thread. Most completely ignored my correspondence. Piedmont was the only one that wrote back to say they were interested, and PSA responded to say they specifically do not sponsor applicants requiring an E3 Visa. The rest (e.g. Compass, Envoy, Mesa, SkyWest, ect) were all silent.

Can anyone provide an update as at August 2018? TIA.
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Old 13th Oct 2018, 05:53
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Originally Posted by flying_a_nix_box
There is a special E3 visa as part of one of the free trade agreements between the US and Australia. To get it you basically just need an offer of a job in the US so no massive green card issues etc.......
Others have commented on the education and experience requirements, so I will just add that the E-3 visa is not part of a trade agreement. It had its roots in the negotiations for the AUSFTA, but is not contained in the Agreement, or referred to in any way.
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Originally Posted by pilotchute
Anything is possible with a good legal team. Melania trump got a H1B visa.
An H-1B visa is quite appropriate for modelling work.

She also got a green card, which is quite a different matter. That one certainly had the fix in, as she managed to get a so-called "Einstein visa" (EB-1), a category for which she clearly did not qualify.

I think the outcome of your E3 application is only as good as your immigration lawyer.
The E-3 visa application depends more on the interview than anything else. Your lawyer cannot take the interview for you or with you.

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Old 13th Oct 2018, 12:19
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Originally Posted by Ramjet555
First, I'm not (yet) on an E3. You should get a reply from those airlines, Compass, Envoy, Mesa, SkyWest
They all have Australian's working on E3 Visas and for them its about 30 seconds work, prepared forms, all they do is
insert your name and shortly after an "LCA" arrives, the print a boilerplate Job offer, very similar to that for US pilots
and then you take it to the embassy and it will have a very high probability of success.

Now, smaller US operators, who do not look like big airlines do not know anything about an E3 visa.
In particular Most Universities, Colleges, flight schools have not got a clue about E3 and, its a very tough
sell unless you can hand them the paperwork for them to sign.

According to the youtube presenter from the US embassy in Canberra you do NOT need a degree
just 12 years experience if you do not have a degree.

If you have a US ATP then you should be good to go.

The problem arises when you have a degree but want to take a specialist occupation say
like crop spraying, because it does not normally require a degree then you cannot accept that job
and an E3 would not be issued because the job does not qualify.

Every time I explain that I hear WTF.????
Those are the US rules, and it works out very well for Australians who want to fly in the USA
The difference is, Australia will allow American Spray Pilots to work in Australia
as does Canada where Australian pilots do not even need to get a Canadian medical
its, just a foreign licence validation.... Australia does the same.

The USA has its rules that give it an unfair trade and employment advantage
but that's the way it is and its probably going to get worse.

But don't tell Donald Trump, he will suddenly realize that the United States is bleeding pilots and especially Instructors.

There is hardly a flight school in the USA that is not desperate for instructors.
just to clarify, Envoy has not employed E3ís ever, only green card holders or citizens. Compass no longer is bothering with E3ís going forward.

Piedmont and Commutair do though, which arenít in your list.
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Old 14th Oct 2018, 11:33
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I didn't have a degree but, when I got my E3 I had been around the industry for a while on top of all the usual studies for licenses ratings etc.
As bellthorpe said ,the interview is everything. Its not hard, treat it like you would an actual job interview.
Suit up, be organised, take paperwork for everything (and I mean everything) and act how you would expect a pilot to act. (confident and comfortable in your own shoes )
Although we Australians dont like to big note ourselves Americans are different.
You will also be judged by how you look and what you wear much more than what you are in Australia. Inside that consulate you are in the USA enjoy your time in the the USA you will have a blast
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 06:32
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Anybody know the current turnaround time for an FAA licence and medical validation?
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 10:11
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Originally Posted by GAforlife
Mine took about two weeks from the time CASA sent the information to the FAA, to receiving the confirmation email from the FAA.
Thanks for that. Iíve got just under 3 weeks to get it done. Sent the applications off today🤞
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Slowly getting through this process. Does anybody have recent experience with the time taken for TSA to get back to you after they have been paid?
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Old 26th Oct 2018, 09:08
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Originally Posted by flying-spike
Slowly getting through this process. Does anybody have recent experience with the time taken for TSA to get back to you after they have been paid?
​​​​​ Regarding the fingerprints? Mine took about 3 days.
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Old 26th Oct 2018, 09:44
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​​​​​ Regarding the fingerprints? Mine took about 3 days.
Was that from paying the $130 to being told to go ahead and get the prints?
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Old 26th Oct 2018, 10:12
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Originally Posted by flying-spike

Was that from paying the $130 to being told to go ahead and get the prints?
I just checked my emails . From payment to being told to get the prints was 4 days .

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