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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 16:58
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You can look up the LCAs online if you really want to. The original quoted number is close to the mark.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 00:06
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[QUOTE=Climb150;11406192]
Originally Posted by abaderrr


So HR finally got back to me. Atlas has given out 164 E3s. Not all have started and some already left. Just a fraction less than 500 it seems. Argue all you want but that's the number from HR.
I call BS on that. Iím an E3 pilot working in the US and I know for a fact there are approximately 450 to 500 Aussies at Atlas if not more as I know at least 5 there myself and they confirmed the numbers for me from their seniority list.

Secondly I doubt HR got back to you over an E3 request as they donít even get back to people they have hired to tell them when their class dates are. They simply donít have time to mess around with a stupid request like that.

Stop making up such rubbish like that to win an argument..

National Air Cargo/Airlines in the US says there is over 55% Aussie pilots on the 747 at their company, thatís about 80 to 85 pilots and they only have 6 active 747 in service with 2 new nose front loaders waiting to come online and more E3 hiring on that.

Atlas has over 52 747 aircraft so almost 10 times the pilots on those aircraft. At approximately 50% Aussie pilots on type that easily adds up to 500 E3 visa pilots, you do the math.

Aussie pilots are rightly taking advantage of the E3 visa and the numbers have exploded. Not good for mainline carriers here but will hopefully force better T&Cís be offered to the pilot group here.

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Old 24th Mar 2023, 00:50
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[QUOTE=TinFoilhat2;11407676]
Originally Posted by Climb150

I call BS on that. Iím an E3 pilot working in the US and I know for a fact there are approximately 450 to 500 Aussies at Atlas if not more as I know at least 5 there myself and they confirmed the numbers for me from their seniority list.

Secondly I doubt HR got back to you over an E3 request as they donít even get back to people they have hired to tell them when their class dates are. They simply donít have time to mess around with a stupid request like that.

Stop making up such rubbish like that to win an argument..

National Air Cargo/Airlines in the US says there is over 55% Aussie pilots on the 747 at their company, thatís about 80 to 85 pilots and they only have 6 active 747 in service with 2 new nose front loaders waiting to come online and more E3 hiring on that.

Atlas has over 52 747 aircraft so almost 10 times the pilots on those aircraft. At approximately 50% Aussie pilots on type that easily adds up to 500 E3 visa pilots, you do the math.

Aussie pilots are rightly taking advantage of the E3 visa and the numbers have exploded. Not good for mainline carriers here but will hopefully force better T&Cís be offered to the pilot group here.
Obviously agree as my above posts. Don't get his/her agenda. Very weird
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 12:21
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Cargo is in the toilet and Atlas doesn't want E3s now.

Have a nice day.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 05:55
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Originally Posted by Climb150
Cargo is in the toilet and Atlas doesn't want E3s now.

Have a nice day.
Spoken like a true loser who is too afraid to leave their shit tier underpaid subsidiary jet job and get out of their comfort zone to be paid what they're worth.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 10:10
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Originally Posted by soseg
Spoken like a true loser who is too afraid to leave their shit tier underpaid subsidiary jet job and get out of their comfort zone to be paid what they're worth.
Or maybe he/she/it just likes living in their home country?
Don't know about freight but the entire US economy is toilet bound so good luck with that
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 18:57
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Originally Posted by soseg
Spoken like a true loser who is too afraid to leave their shit tier underpaid subsidiary jet job and get out of their comfort zone to be paid what they're worth.
Sorry to burst your bubble but up until very recently I worked for Atlas.

Thanks for the loser remark. I can tell you are an intelligent individual with complex thoughts.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 22:59
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So you work for Alliance or Network on a rubbish agreement because you wanted to come back to Australia after leaving Atlas?
Assuming you came back to Australia is the contract you came back to Australia for what a Pilot is really worth in todays market?

I can smell a Bin Chicken
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 23:08
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How about we keep this thread informative and balanced, where we understand every pilot has different ambitions, financial positions, outlooks and goals?

Many will go to the US and return. Iíve seen it as an expat before. It doesnít mean the US experience isnít suited for a lot of Australian pilots. Expat life is a challenge and often professionally humbling. It can take a long time to settle in lifestyle and vocation.

So how come you pulled the pin on Atlas? It could save a few readers some heartache if they resonate with your sentiments.


And yes, as not so nicely put above, rapid command opportunities are at carriers in Australia where there is no seniority, no union, no EBA and no money. But they do have a Bond.
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Old 26th Mar 2023, 15:07
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I can smell a Bin Chicken
Now you take that back, or morno will right on here defending his Australian/American bruthas who are nearly as good as him.
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Old 26th Mar 2023, 19:49
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Originally Posted by maverick4442
So you work for Alliance or Network on a rubbish agreement because you wanted to come back to Australia after leaving Atlas?
Assuming you came back to Australia is the contract you came back to Australia for what a Pilot is really worth in todays market?

I can smell a Bin Chicken
Most people leave the US and their good contracts for things unrelated to money. It's a good place to be a pilot but it's pretty on almost every other metric.

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Old 26th Mar 2023, 23:14
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This whole argument is stupid. Everyone now knows the benefits of the US, more money and better career opportunities. Everyone also knows what you get if you choose to stay at home, close to family and your own people.

What would be enlightening though, is to hear from those who came and left, what exactly it was about your experience that led you that way? The US isn't for everyone, and that's ok. This thread is great for highlighting the pros, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a solid list of the cons for those still on the fence.

I'll start us off with an experience I had first renting here... Con - the baffling need to pay for rent with a cheque, or pay a surcharge if you choose to pay online.
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Old 26th Mar 2023, 23:41
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Hi Dropyoursocks,

I am renting in Florida, and I donít have that issue.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 00:02
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
This whole argument is stupid. Everyone now knows the benefits of the US, more money and better career opportunities. Everyone also knows what you get if you choose to stay at home, close to family and your own people.

What would be enlightening though, is to hear from those who came and left, what exactly it was about your experience that led you that way? The US isn't for everyone, and that's ok. This thread is great for highlighting the pros, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a solid list of the cons for those still on the fence.

I'll start us off with an experience I had first renting here... Con - the baffling need to pay for rent with a cheque, or pay a surcharge if you choose to pay online.
Before buying a place (which mortgage is electronic payments) I used PayPal, Zelle or any myriad of methods but checks as great since it takes longer to clear and drain your bank account!
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 00:58
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I'd forgotten about life before Zelle... simpler times. @CRH, it was one place several years ago. Thankfully since then it's been more civilized.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 06:50
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
This whole argument is stupid. Everyone now knows the benefits of the US, more money and better career opportunities. Everyone also knows what you get if you choose to stay at home, close to family and your own people.

What would be enlightening though, is to hear from those who came and left, what exactly it was about your experience that led you that way? The US isn't for everyone, and that's ok. This thread is great for highlighting the pros, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a solid list of the cons for those still on the fence.

I'll start us off with an experience I had first renting here... Con - the baffling need to pay for rent with a cheque, or pay a surcharge if you choose to pay online.
I know someone who left USA a year ago to come back to fly jets in oz. Instant regret. Within a few months already looking to go back to their old company or utilise their TR at a rival company. They were absolutely shocked once the reality of a subsidiary pay cheque and hours/days worked presented itself to them.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 08:59
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Originally Posted by soseg
I know someone who left USA a year ago to come back to fly jets in oz. Instant regret. Within a few months already looking to go back to their old company or utilise their TR at a rival company. They were absolutely shocked once the reality of a subsidiary pay cheque and hours/days worked presented itself to them.
I know of one who left Oz and was doing ok but went back chasing skirt. Shame.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 09:12
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Originally Posted by DUXNUTZ
I know of one who left Oz and was doing ok but went back chasing skirt. Shame.
Idiot. Everyone knows it's easier chasing skirt in USA, especially with our accents.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 02:21
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I know of one who left Oz and was doing ok but went back chasing skirt. Shame.
That clown should have his passport marked 'never to be issued an E3 in future' and have his pilot licence revoked.
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Old 4th Apr 2023, 14:08
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Pretty persistent rumour over here that Delta are on the brink of hiring E3's. Would certainly make things even more interesting.
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