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Old 9th Mar 2023, 23:44
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Yup. (5 characters)
Any ideas why? I did hear thereís a big backlog.
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 00:34
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What are you saying 5 guys didn't behave so well & now no more Australians to get hired at Atlas ?
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 02:01
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[QUOTE=Brakerider;11398639]Any ideas why? I did hear thereís a big backlog.[

My thoughts are a combination of things, interest rates rising, post pandemic boom taking a breather, backlog of pilots to train.
In a years time all could change
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 19:14
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Originally Posted by Makiko
What are you saying 5 guys didn't behave so well & now no more Australians to get hired at Atlas ?
There's a heap of aussies with CJO's already that are waiting for class dates, coupled with backlogs in training and the numbers being about where the company wants them so things have slowed. While they get plenty of American applicants and can supplement any gaps with the Aussies already with CJO's there's really no reason to hire more.

Remember that E-3's are to fill gaps, if there are fewer or smaller gaps then those visas will slow too.

As with anything aviation, procrastinating when the sun shines might mean you get caught out in the rain.
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 20:39
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[QUOTE=Blueocean505;11398673]
Originally Posted by Brakerider
Any ideas why? I did hear thereís a big backlog.[

My thoughts are a combination of things, interest rates rising, post pandemic boom taking a breather, backlog of pilots to train.
In a years time all could change
Last point partly true. The rest isn't.

They have a heap of courses on backlog to get through, with the training department at capacity. Each carrier can only employ a certain number of E3's, Atlas is already at 18% in terms of this.
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 22:10
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[QUOTE=abaderrr;11399193]
Originally Posted by Blueocean505

Last point partly true. The rest isn't.

They have a heap of courses on backlog to get through, with the training department at capacity. Each carrier can only employ a certain number of E3's, Atlas is already at 18% in terms of this.
There is no way on Earth Atlas is 18% E3. Who told you that? That would be almost 500 E3 pilots.
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Old 10th Mar 2023, 23:52
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Originally Posted by abaderrr

There is no way on Earth Atlas is 18% E3. Who told you that? That would be almost 500 E3 pilots.
According to several friends at Atlas, they were closing in on close to 500 Aussies. That was late last year. I expect they've surpassed that now.
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Old 11th Mar 2023, 01:07
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Heard anecdotally that Atlas are up to about 600 Aussies now, and have hit the pause button.
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Old 11th Mar 2023, 02:28
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[QUOTE=Climb150;11399250]
Originally Posted by abaderrr

There is no way on Earth Atlas is 18% E3. Who told you that? That would be almost 500 E3 pilots.
You're right. It's higher than 18%. I was told by the seniority list that I'm on.
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[QUOTE=abaderrr;11399316]
Originally Posted by Climb150

You're right. It's higher than 18%. I was told by the seniority list that I'm on.
Atlas restarted E3 recruitment in January 2022. I know I was in that class. So to get over 500 Aussies now you would have needed to hire 33 E3s a month every month since then.

Please stop making stuff up.
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Old 11th Mar 2023, 13:01
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Originally Posted by Climb150
you would have needed to hire 33 E3s a month every month since then.

Please stop making stuff up.
That would have been easily covered by just the 74 classes last year, let alone the 777, many of which were 80-90% aussie. Smaller classes this year but still a large contingent of aussies in those classes.
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[QUOTE=Climb150;11399380]
Originally Posted by abaderrr

Atlas restarted E3 recruitment in January 2022. I know I was in that class. So to get over 500 Aussies now you would have needed to hire 33 E3s a month every month since then.

Please stop making stuff up.
Making stuff up 😂.

"Restarted" is one part of it, so already a number of E3's at Atlas prior to the current wave. Now consider the Australians on the 777, 767 and even 737 courses. Courses are being run every two weeks, and my 747 course alone had 25 in it, 18 of whom were Australian

Not guestimating nor giving an opinion. It's factual.
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So if it's factual you know the facts. Please tell me exactly how many E3s are at Atlas now if you have the facts.

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Old 11th Mar 2023, 17:11
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National has way over 18% Aussie, Iím guessing around 60 %. I have also heard that Atlas have over 500 Aussies.
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 04:40
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Imagine that, joining a U.S. airline and it being filled with Australians. The same aviation culture youíre trying to get away from.
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 06:13
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Originally Posted by big buddah
Imagine that, joining a U.S. airline and it being filled with Australians. The same aviation culture youíre trying to get away from.
The culture in most Aussie airlines is great. Itís the few bad eggs in some of the training departments that leaves a lasting mark on everyone.
Na it the sh!t pay and conditions they are trying to get away from.
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 12:10
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Originally Posted by big buddah
Imagine that, joining a U.S. airline and it being filled with Australians. The same aviation culture youíre trying to get away from.
I personally came over to experience something different, get a widebody window seat and triple my salary. Generally the aussies that have come over are open minded and enthusiastic for a new challenge and new experiences. Those with bad attitudes etc have generally been weeded out.
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The American Dream, for pilots anyways, appears very real. Even with a looming world-wide pilot shortage itís hard to see Australian T&Cís improving significantly. I canít finish up a career in Australia without taking a peek at the States. About to jump on a flight over now.
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 23:02
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The American Dream, for pilots anyways, appears very real. Even with a looming world-wide pilot shortage itís hard to see Australian T&Cís improving significantly. I canít finish up a career in Australia without taking a peek at the States. About to jump on a flight over now.
Welcome! More the merrier.
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Old 13th Mar 2023, 09:42
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Imagine that, joining a U.S. airline and it being filled with Australians. The same aviation culture youíre trying to get away from.
The culture comes from CASA not the pilots.
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