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Old 19th Jan 2022, 04:29
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
Got a kid coming in May so have to stay where I am for now, which is actually a good career job (for now), but I'm going to put a lot of effort into joining your mob after that. Unprecedented times, so I really should try,
Congrats, first off.

Secondly, if you’re worried about having time off because the timing hasn’t worked, don’t be because they’ll bend over backwards to work with you. Training on anything other than the B75/76 is far from difficult and they always understand family first. Also, the medical insurance from day one is outstanding and the premiums are kept low, contractually. My first came out of the hospital after being born with $80k worth of bills, of which I paid about $3k.

If it’s where you want to be, don’t delay because every month means another 240’ish above you.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 16:24
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Originally Posted by Kenny
Congrats, first off.

Secondly, if you’re worried about having time off because the timing hasn’t worked, don’t be because they’ll bend over backwards to work with you. Training on anything other than the B75/76 is far from difficult and they always understand family first. Also, the medical insurance from day one is outstanding and the premiums are kept low, contractually. My first came out of the hospital after being born with $80k worth of bills, of which I paid about $3k.

If it’s where you want to be, don’t delay because every month means another 240’ish above you.
Thanks

Good advice. I'll apply when I get home. I have a friend in the same boat (LCC FO, no 121 command) with more internals than I'd be able to get and he hasn't been called yet, so I think it might be a few months before they look at me anyway.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 19:20
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
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Good advice. I'll apply when I get home. I have a friend in the same boat (LCC FO, no 121 command) with more internals than I'd be able to get and he hasn't been called yet, so I think it might be a few months before they look at me anyway.

Good Man. The figures I’ve heard over the last couple of months of working at the Training Center are, 65 a week until March. Then a bit of a look-see, to work out how air travel and demand is going with COVID. The goal for the year is 2000.

Now, these figures come from people who deal in getting the training pipeline up to speed in managing numbers like these, so they should know but things change on a daily, if not hourly basis.

The other number which is perhaps far more thought provoking, is that we only have 2000 left in our hiring pool and they’re the same 2000 as DAL and AAL. If this is in any way accurate, something’s going to have to give because the numbers don’t exist. I do not see us sponsoring anyone that requires “sponsorship” for employment. Speaking to an ALPA mate of mine, they are already aware and ready to fight the company, should they try to fill the ranks with those that are not legal permanent residents. Again, take it for what it’s worth.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 22:24
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Good Man. The figures I’ve heard over the last couple of months of working at the Training Center are, 65 a week until March. Then a bit of a look-see, to work out how air travel and demand is going with COVID. The goal for the year is 2000.

Now, these figures come from people who deal in getting the training pipeline up to speed in managing numbers like these, so they should know but things change on a daily, if not hourly basis.

The other number which is perhaps far more thought provoking, is that we only have 2000 left in our hiring pool and they’re the same 2000 as DAL and AAL. If this is in any way accurate, something’s going to have to give because the numbers don’t exist. I do not see us sponsoring anyone that requires “sponsorship” for employment. Speaking to an ALPA mate of mine, they are already aware and ready to fight the company, should they try to fill the ranks with those that are not legal permanent residents. Again, take it for what it’s worth.
Great info man thanks for that.
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 08:27
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Besides Commutair, PSA, and Breeze, what other airlines in America are hiring Aussies at the moment?
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 13:49
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Originally Posted by ThunderstormFactory
Besides Commutair, PSA, and Breeze, what other airlines in America are hiring Aussies at the moment?
Anecdotally, I hear GoJet, Atlas and National mentioned...fwiw...
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Old 29th Jan 2022, 16:37
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This popped up recently addressed to Australian pilots. No airline identified but appears to be an American Airlines wholly-owned regional...Piedmont perhaps ? No E3 visa mentioned but I guess that goes without saying:

https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general
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Old 29th Jan 2022, 16:44
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I can confirm it is Piedmont.
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Old 29th Jan 2022, 18:22
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Originally Posted by Abroad145
I can confirm it is Piedmont.

A145,

Are you familiar enough with the PDT-Aussie situation to know if they're providing the ATP-CTP and written to Aussies ?

The F/O quals as listed:

Minimum Qualifications for First Officer
  • Meets minimum requirements to hold an ATP...
This would suggest PDT is providing all training to get the ATP but it's hard to tell from the ad.
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Old 29th Jan 2022, 18:35
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
A145,

Are you familiar enough with the PDT-Aussie situation to know if they're providing the ATP-CTP and written to Aussies ?

The F/O quals as listed:

Minimum Qualifications for First Officer
  • Meets minimum requirements to hold an ATP...
This would suggest PDT is providing all training to get the ATP but it's hard to tell from the ad.
TBH I am not sure.
My assumption is that Piedmont would treat Australians the same as American applicants (no special favors). If PDT is offering full ATP-CTP prior to Indoc then Aussie applicants could expect the same.
It would be best to email Piedmont directly and ask.
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Old 29th Jan 2022, 21:46
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There's a bit of negative comment about PDT (and Air Wisconsin) on APC. It seems to be related to the alleged future of the 50-seat airplane in the regional world. I have no idea if any of this is accurate...and neither does anyone else at this point.

But perhaps it doesn't matter to a young footloose Aussie pilot looking to get into the first airline jet job. Just get in, get an FAA ATP and some jet time and move on to something better & bigger.

Don't let the Debbie Downers scare you away.
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 00:26
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Given America's relatively active aviation industry, I expected the supply chain of local pilots would be more than adequate to supply their RPT industry. This must not be the case if they are recruiting from overseas locations. Is it simply the case of demand vs supply? Are there other factors at play? e.g. Is aviation becoming a less popular career choice for the native population or have their supply chains been affected in some way?
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 01:56
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Originally Posted by Mr Proach
Given America's relatively active aviation industry, I expected the supply chain of local pilots would be more than adequate to supply their RPT industry. This must not be the case if they are recruiting from overseas locations. Is it simply the case of demand vs supply? Are there other factors at play? e.g. Is aviation becoming a less popular career choice for the native population or have their supply chains been affected in some way?
All of the above, IMO. COVID made a more than a few of those over 60 with a few years to go, reconsider their priorities and leave early. This has created a need to replace the leavers with the next rung down; regional pilots and LCC pilots deciding a change is worth it in the long run. This leaves the regional airlines needing to replace huge numbers of pilots, as the legacy/major carriers hoover them up.

After the Colgan crash, it became widely understood by joe public, that starting salaries were truly sh!t at the regionals and you needed to pay almost 2-3 years of your initial salary as an FO on a CRJ or EMB, just to do your flight training. This coupled with the financial crisis of ‘07/‘08 meant few wanted to take the chance or could even get a loan for the $$ required for their flight training. Hence the regionals are hurting in a major way for pilots. Considering it takes a minimum of around 2 years to go from “I don’t know anything” to “I know enough to scare myself” and get your first RPT job, demand is currently far outpacing supply.

Times are good at the moment but as always, subject to change.
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 05:19
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As someone turning 35 this year, I'd love to hear what you'd be doing...
If you have to ask.......................
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 05:46
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What about the 4yr college degree requirement the majors have in place..... Or is that overlooked if someone fronts up with jet time (or even better, jet command time)
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 08:24
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What about the 4yr college degree requirement the majors have in place
Delta just dropped the requirement. Some of the majors 'desire' a four year degree. I'd reckon that for the next 5 years at least a degree will mean SFA.
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 09:47
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Delta just dropped the requirement. Some of the majors 'desire' a four year degree. I'd reckon that for the next 5 years at least a degree will mean SFA.
yeah nah. Most still req for preferential (ones getting interviews) even my second tier legacy.
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Old 30th Jan 2022, 12:10
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Depending on which report you believe when it comes down the actual number, it's reported that the big 3 (Delta/United/American) gave early retirement to between 2000-4000 pilots between them during covid. When these airlines finally get back to being fully staffed with pilots this hiring frenzy will cool off rapidly.

For those of you who think this will last forever, don't be so sure. Most regional and LCC airlines in the USA know this and won't give any huge long term incentives or pay raises. Most that have increased pay were due for a new contract anyway.

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Old 30th Jan 2022, 13:45
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Originally Posted by Climb150
Depending on you believe, it's reported that the big 3 (Delta/United/American) gave early retirement to between 2000-4000 pilots between them during covid. When these airlines finally get back to being fully staffed with pilots this hiring frenzy will cool off rapidly.
Climb150,

I suspect you and Kenny are correct in your comments. Here's a video that touches on this issue:



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Old 30th Jan 2022, 15:35
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Delta just dropped the requirement. Some of the majors 'desire' a four year degree. I'd reckon that for the next 5 years at least a degree will mean SFA.
They "dropped it" but it is still an important filter for them to pull apps for review.
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